Surgery Suporn Thailand

[Sarah_aus]

Hi girls, I decided to post this about Dr Suporn's technique, I had my surgery in March of this year, and for the most part I am happy, it looks great, I have full sensation, unfortunately I had some complications resulting I my opening gradually shrinking, now I want to stress I am the 1%.

But after one more painfully difficult dilation, I have given up, I will be a woman without a vagina, I've never had penetrative sex and never will.  I didn't come to this decision lightly but over 9 months on pain staking perseverance, I've tried everything, to no avail, I've spent over $500 in dilators and toys alone.  Today marks a hard decision but I am giving up on my opening, it will close and that will be the end of it, if quadriplegic people can have a sex life, I certainly can, I experienced multiple climaxes without penetration before surgery, and could even get there through meditation.  Life changes and sometimes things don't work out.

I'm not saying don't get surgery, far from it, given the chance would I do it again? No, but that's me and I have my reasons, if you need it to feel whole, or even want it, them go for it, but be aware, research and know what will happen if it doesn't work out, figure out how you will feel if this happens.  I'm available to talk if you want detailed info or a chat, even photos of healing, I try to help

[Jamie D]

I am sorry to hear of your complications, Sarah.  Is there no possibility of a revision that might alleviate your narrowing problem?

[Sarah_aus]

Hi Jamie, I've already had a revision and while I could have others I just want to put it behind me and move on with my life.  I've made the decision to embrace the lemons and make lemonade.  Perhaps one day I will feel different, I just want others to know that even though the system show a slim chance of complications, everyone will have something, and some worse than others, just be prepared that's all

[Beth Andrea]

Very sorry to hear of your situation, it must have been disappointing to have struggled so much, and then to realize it's time to accept it and move on...*hugs*

but be aware, research and know what will happen if it doesn't work out, figure out how you will feel if this happens.

Very wise to consider the "what ifs" and the implications. Is the outside otherwise healthy and acceptable? All healed there?

[GendrKweer]

I'd like to know more, if you feel able to tell us, about what exactly happened. As a Suporn girl myself, I know how painful and rigorous that first six months of dilation can be! I had something dilating me literally three times a day for an hour or more each....plus clean up and prep, I was at an easy six hours of fiddling with what amounts to be a surgical wound site for a few months. But I can't quite understand the mechanism by which it "shrank" if you maintained any kind of good dilation schedule... as in, my earring hole won't shrink if I keep something in there often enough kinda thing.... I don't mean to minimize, just understand, and possible you can help others as well. Bowel revision is always a possibility, too. My condolences either way.

[GendrKweer]

I would just also add that I went back for a cosmetic revision also... it was arranged with no fuss. I was worried it would be a huge deal like the original surgery was, but an hour under local fixed labial asymmetry and ureter aiming issues lol... Some things can't be done in one stage perfectly, but since this stuff was purely superficial stitching, I was up and about the next day as though nothing had happened, and even split to have a little fun in bangkok the week after. Anyway, sorry for your problems, but I'd say, you paid for "free revisions" if needed. Once a year has gone by (swelling really does take that long to go all the way down sometimes), see if you can't wrap a little thai vacation into your life at some point. A few weeks in the sun and then poke your head into chonburi for a few days? Good luck either way...

[Katie]

You know your the second suporn gal I know that for whatever reason no longer have a vagina. The first is a very good friend of mine. She is lesbian and I guess didn't care about having the vag.

The other thing about suporn was when I went to Thailand in 08 the cost of his surgery was about the same as having it done in the states. There was no chance in hell I would have flown to Thailand to pay the same price as in the states!!!!!!
Needless to say I did not pick him!

Katie

[LauraGirl]

I had srs by Suporn too, last year. I don't have problems with dilating and I do have sex, but I can't say that I'm very pleased with how things look. I guess a revision could partly solve that. My sensitivity, well, it's not what I expected or hoped for. I can orgasm, but it isn't easy. My libido and sensitivity still seem to come and go.

This is typical female problem, it has nothing to do witn Suporn's technique. 10 to 15 % of biological girls will never have orgasms. Perhaps you should read again the booklet you got at your post-op class about orgasms and visit also the link mentioned in this booklet.

Anyway, I am a Suporn girl too, 9 weeks post-op. Dilating is a hassle but feasable. I am very happy with Suporn. Everything is still very swollen. Sometimes, people do have wrong expections of Suporn. They wanna a kind of designer vagina but for this, Chonburi is the wrong address.

Suporn remains the best SRS surgeon in the world, but he's not perfect.

[Katie]

You know Laura, I got to ask you how is it you have the ability to say one doctor is the best in the world?

I guess that sort of crap really annoys me because it is so absurd. I would never say such a thing. I don't know about you but I have had the surgery. I have nothing to complain about. I am happy with my doctor and finally I don't think I have ever said who my doctor is nor have I ever promoted one doctor over the other.

[kelly_aus]

Suporn remains the best SRS surgeon in the world, but he's not perfect.

This statement is a joke.. Quite simply because no one surgeon is the perfect choice for every patient.

[livinit]

Hey GendrKweer,

Is there some'thing' which will dilate us? I've often wondered about a dilating machine for the drudgery.

...I had something dilating me literally three times a day for an hour or more each....

[GendrKweer]

Haha I'm sure one could be rigged up!

[Cindy]

'Cough' boyfriend.

Just joking I know 

[dejan160]

I am so sorry about your experience. I am getting now paranoid about my vagina because it is also non inversion one... But compared to Suporn, my doctor has less rough recovery and much less revisions.... What is suporn saying what is the reason for you losing your vagina?

[TaoRaven]

I am so sorry about your experience. I am getting now paranoid about my vagina because it is also non inversion one... But compared to Suporn, my doctor has less rough recovery and much less revisions.... What is suporn saying what is the reason for you losing your vagina?

If you don't mind me asking...who did you use for your procedure?

[dejan160]

Dr Chettawut

[Nicolette]

I am so sorry about your experience. I am getting now paranoid about my vagina because it is also non inversion one... But compared to Suporn, my doctor has less rough recovery and much less revisions.... What is suporn saying what is the reason for you losing your vagina?

I think you'd know pretty much right away if you were going to experience similar problems. It seems some are, unfortunately, literally fated for this to happen to them. It must be a combination of genetics and technique that triggers such an undesirable healing process to occur. Maybe in future, there will be a test to determine those who will be at risk. I don't know, but it does seem to happen more to those who have had the non-penile inversion technique.

[dejan160]

Of course, with penile inversion it is a flap and it is less likely to be lost, with non inversion it is a graft and the risk is huge for this to happen. This was one of my worries but my doctor assured me that it has never happened in his practice... Who knows about that....

[dejan160]

This post made me think a lot and when I think about it I think that the skin graft would be the worse choice over skin flap. I wonder why so many thai doctors prefer the graft over the flap, when from the canadian team and mcghin we saw that with inversion only perfect cosmetics and sensations can be achieved.

[livinit]

Of course, with penile inversion it is a flap and it is less likely to be lost, with non inversion it is a graft and the risk is huge for this to happen. This was one of my worries but my doctor assured me that it has never happened in his practice... Who knows about that....

Suporn's scrotal inversion is a flap too. In fact, it's called the Chonburi Flap (Suporn's wiki page), and it's never disconnected from the nervous system. I believe this is how he is generally able to provide such orgasmic tissue down there. This flap also has his 'extra sensate area' on the end of it (which, I believe is affixed to the area just below the clitoris and around the urethra?), which is conserved from glans tissue left over from the construction of the neo-clitoris. Of course not all cases are absolute and there's obviously exceptions to these cases, depending on a variety of things.