Susan's Place Logo

News:

Visit our Discord server  and Wiki

Main Menu

Male to femme ego.

Started by michelle, November 25, 2005, 11:29:38 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

michelle

A price we pay, as tg, is that as our feminine ego develops we deal with these issues more emotionally as women do and the hard I don't give a damn I can take all crap armour of male egoness is less able to protect us thus making us more emotionally defenseless then we were when the male side controlled our emotions.
Be true to yourself.  The future will reveal itself in its own due time.    Find the calm at the heart of the storm.    I own my womanhood.

I am a 69-year-old transsexual school teacher grandma & lady.   Ethnically I am half Irish  and half Scandinavian.   I can be a real bitch or quite loving and caring.  I have never taken any hormones or had surgery, I am out 24/7/365.
  •  

Debtv

I agree michelle,

You are saying our male ego makes us hard....but as we let our female ego grows it makes us vunerable.

But,......have'nt we always been? Just bluffing to be tough? Maybe its because we been so tough most our life....that to let that go, is a good thing. Are we weaker to be tg? To feel femme?

I think not!

Love
DebTV
  •  

Shelley

Unfortunately my male ego is over ridden by my femme side which makes me even more vulnerable to the thoughtlessness of the males around me.

Shelley
  •  

tammygirluk

I never liked my male ego and im glad in a way that my female ego outweighs my male ago.

I never liked my male ego.

When i started to express my femside i noticed alot of changes and i was alot happier and i didnt used to get as angry and i certainly didnt act tough ,i became more understanding and other thing but there came a point where i thought i was too weak becuase i couldnt say no to people and they walked all over me so i shut my fem side out and tried to build up my male ego and i did

after a while i noticed how much i disliked my male ego and short temper that came with it and my thought patterns.

by the time i realised that i didnt want anything to do with my male ego it was to late and my female ego was outweighed by my male ego.

It took alot of hard work to get my female ego back to how it was and i never want anything to do with my male ego again.
  •  

Terri-Gene

QuoteYou are saying our male ego makes us hard....but as we let our female ego grows it makes us vunerable.

how very true a statement from my own experience.  I retained the "hard side" long into transition and it seemed nothing could ever really intimidate me or cause me to worry as I felt I could handle anything that crossed my path.

these attitudes bothered me though because they made me react to situations in a different manner then I was really comfortable and overshadowed much of my truer nature.  I was always in deep conflict with myself and interactions with people, but I never tried all that hard to surpress that side of me because It made me secure in myself and gave me an almost total confidence level in myself in any circumstance.

Within the last year though, I have seen and understood the necessity for letting go of all that and doing so has opened up my mind in ways I never imagined possible.  I began to be more at peace with myself and more tolerant of other people.  It has it's drawbacks though, in becoming closer to myself I have undermined my ability to simply throw off things that affect my feelings like I once could and I don't feel as secure in any invironment as I used to.  Previously I would laugh at the thought of paying any attention to what kind of people were around me or what part of town I was in, now I'm a little more cautious about things and rely more on my mind and presentation to see me through rougher situations.

I feel weaker, more vulnerable, less likely to be as confrontational, though I still can't help it sometimes.  All at once I feel as a burdon has been lifted from me and like I have lost something, but so far I have had no need of what I "lost".

Trade offs I guess, for every action there is a reaction and for all I drop and walk away from, the more I seem to gain in terms of understanding of my own wants and needs and emotional contact with others.  It is like going from an almost total numbness and seperatism to feeling like a part of the lives of others and enjoying simple things in life that I had previously always just considered a waste of time and effort.

And yes, this does weaken me somewhat in some ways, but the gains outweigh the losses and it is worth it to me, and besides, I am no worse off then any other woman who spends a lot of time on strange streets and I still have vast experience to draw from if it is necessary, even if I choose to not use it.

Terri
  •  

Terri-Gene

QuoteI really feel vulnerable whenever I am in my natural state and it really is tough

Yes,  I pushed myself into a mindset early in adult hood that nothing would ever hurt me or threaten me again and when I went into transition that attitude carried over.  It hindered me from so much though, and now with all that falling away and addressing the problems that caused me to be like that, I'm much happier and I don't have to always win at everything.  I can win or lose and just be happy about whatever good I find in either and I don't have to drive myself crazy dealing with myself over being calloused about my actions.

there are those lately who may perceive I'm weaker then I was but thats alright.  I've found a different kind of strength and I'm happier.

Terri
  •  

Tiffanie

Quote from: Terri-Gene on November 26, 2005, 05:52:28 PM
I pushed myself into a mindset early in adult hood that nothing would ever hurt me or threaten me again

I am the youngest of many siblings and was teased by them and my classmates rather ruthlessly.  I learned not only to not react, but to fire back verbally with incredible anger and venom.  I became more than capable of protecting myself to the point where a lot of people just left me alone.

The anger has mostly disappeared, but the invulnerable, impenetrable mask or armor are very strongly ingrained.  Many of my coworkers are amazed at how I'm able to handle myself without anything getting to me.  They do not know how I'm feeling inside.  It will take a lot of work to let it go

Tiffanie
  •  

Cassandra

I've been reading thru this thread and I have to interject. If I am reading correctly it seems like ya'll are saying that to be feminine is to be a push over. You may have noticed something under my picture. I believe in being a strong woman. Yes I am emotionally a little more vulnerable in that I can allow myself to feel more which has always been my inclination but, that does not mean that I will let people walk all over me. There is a saying in our household. We don't get mad we get even. Which is to say if someone does us wrong they will not get away with it.

I don't see this as being a strictly masculine state. Correct me if I'm wrong in my interpretation. I just don't feel that being a woman means you have to be weak and that is what I am perceiving from the last few posts.

Cassie

  •  

Tiffanie

Quote from: Cassandra on November 27, 2005, 12:07:22 AM
I just don't feel that being a woman means you have to be weak ....

I can't speak for anyone else, but I do not feel that being female means being weak, I was just relating my experience.  I felt the need to be able to hurt others worse than they hurt me without ever letting them know they even bothered me (I even made the class bully cry when he picked on me).

To this day you can be very spiteful to me and you will probably never have a clue how I feel about your comment ... I just don't show my feelings.  This does not mean that as I move toward being my female self that I will fall over or curl up in the fetal position whenever someone is cruel to me.  I'm merely stating I need to be able to deal with my emotions on a more honest level.
  •  

Terri-Gene

QuoteIf I am reading correctly it seems like ya'll are saying that to be feminine is to be a push over

Actually Cassie, not in the slightest.  Anyone tagging me as a pushover is diving into hot oil very slowly feet first.  It's a matter of attitude about aggressiveness, not being afraid of shadows.

I seem to be evolving away from instantainious aggressive action and adopting a more compromising attempt to resolve problems, but that don't mean that if I can read the writting on the wall that it can only come down to one way to resolve things, so be it.  I'm not going to get run over just because I would rather not push instead of compromise.

In talking about my feelings on this I was saying that my attitude about such things has been changing, and violence and aggressiveness affects me more then it did before (I actually enjoyed it).

This isn't really the case all the time in the female environment though, I've met and worked with women who were every bit the equal of the roughest of the rough, and had no problems being viewed that way, but as for me, deep down, I would rather just be peaceful whenever possible, it has a much better effect on the way I feel about myself.

I understand though how you came to the conclusion you did, but for many out their it is like I said, simply a different way of looking at things as the evolution goes on.

Terri
  •  

Shelley

No no no no,

Makes us more emotional, feelings more easily hurt, more considerate of others and at a disadvantage when deeling with males who don't have these human traits.

Take the other side male ego's by contrast tend not to worry about others feelings until after the damage is done, consideration is linked to remembering where they sit in the shout and don't show emotions at the risk of death or at the very least ridicle.

These are generalisations and as such should be read in the context of this forum. (E.G. Crossdresser Talk where you have a foot in either camp) ;D

Shelley
  •  

Night Scream

Hi everyone:

At least for me my male ego is dominating but not ery much.. since i'm still in hiding about my tg.. so i try to act a bit maly but only like a 30% the rest i'm female in acting as a male.

Yet some girls have told me i do act femenine sometimes.. is that good?
  •  

Terri-Gene

QuoteYet some girls have told me i do act femenine sometimes.. is that good?

It could be.  It means that they are possibly recognizing at least some kinship with you.

Terri
  •  

Night Scream

Quote from: Terri-Gene on December 03, 2005, 04:35:54 PM
It could be.  It means that they are possibly recognizing at least some kinship with you.

Terri
Yay :D  that's good :)  but i wonder um would any males um pick on me or insult me if i acted more female?
  •  

Northern Jane

Interesting discussion!

QuoteMakes us more emotional, feelings more easily hurt, more considerate of others

Shelley has got most of it. Hormones have a link to being "emotional" - sometimes it is easier to keep emotions under control than other times.

To make a gross generalization (don't jump on me for this - it's just a generalization and doesn't apply to everyone!) men seem to first consider how anything may effect them, they seem more independant and less tied to a "social network". Men seem to form and carry their self-image within themselves. Men often don't realize they have walked out onto thin ice until it starts to crack under them.

By the same gross generalization, women are very "social" and their network of friends is critical, as is acceptance among their social group. A woman's self-image tends to be founded outside of herself and from her role in the social community. I believe this is why most women are "more sensitive" to criticism.

One of the most interesting things I have learned in my 32 years since SRS and as my career has evolved to the point where I have to get a large number of men (and a few women) to do what I want done, is how to approach "leadership" differently with each gender.

As one who always felt and identified as female, I did not know or understand the male "ego" and found that "giving orders" to men while retaining their respect as a woman of authority (rather than a bitch or a cry-baby) is a tricky business. Success keys on how to assert my direction without challenging their egos or making them feel that I am usurping their "power".

Dealing with women is SOOOO much easier, excepting the odd "venomous serpent", and doesn't require nearly so much of an obtuse path!  ;D
  •  

alleigh

I agree!  I've always really admired women that were much more independent then the norm  :)  Everyone is so much better with some balance.  Women that can be independent, men that can appreciate and accept all the support of everyone around them.  And of course everyone inbetween
  •  

Terri-Gene

probably, but thats just one of the things you have to learn to handle per your preferences.  Personally, I just tell em I like my men boiled in oil first.

Terri
  •  

Northern Jane

  •  

Terri-Gene

don't laugh Jane, they smell better when fried ......

Terri
  •  

Shelley

Oh you Americans always with the frying don't you know its healthier to steam them with a few vegies. ::)

Shelley
  •