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I want a surgery thread too!

Started by Alexthecat, December 23, 2013, 06:56:59 AM

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Alexthecat

My top sugery is January 13th with Medalie. :D

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Darrin Scott

Congrats!!!! That's so exciting. I know he does good work.





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Bimmer Guy

The best Holiday gift ever, isn't it!  I chuckled when I saw the name of your thread.  I actually was going to cut/paste an update post from another site, but I realized I didn't really have anywhere to put it here.  I think I will start a "top surgery recovery" thread for all members who don't want a whole thread.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Alexthecat

So I emailed the secretary about if I would wear my own underwear and socks. She said I wouldn't wear underwear during surgery and they would provide me with socks. Does that sound right or should I directly ask the surgeon?

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mcZ

Quote from: Alexthecat on December 24, 2013, 05:52:34 AM
So I emailed the secretary about if I would wear my own underwear and socks. She said I wouldn't wear underwear during surgery and they would provide me with socks. Does that sound right or should I directly ask the surgeon?

That sounds right.  I wasn't allowed to wear my own underwear or socks for the surgery. 
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Jeatyn

No underwear at all? I wore hospital pants, they were pretty much seethrough but it was something at least. I also had compression socks - though they did allow me to wear my slippers (sorta like uggs) over the top so I would be warm :D
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Alexthecat

That sucks. Don't feel comfortable without my underwear...

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aleon515

I had my socks (compression-- which was weird as they have this little device that pumps your legs sort of) but had to give up my underwear. It was no big deal at that point as I was so out of it at that point.

--Jay
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: aleon515 on December 24, 2013, 02:09:08 PM
I had my socks (compression-- which was weird as they have this little device that pumps your legs sort of) but had to give up my underwear. It was no big deal at that point as I was so out of it at that point.

--Jay

Now this is funny.  I was just about to post that Garramone didn't make me remove my underwear, but thought that maybe I should ask my partner who is in the same room as me, first.  She said that at some point my underwear had to have been removed because she helped me put them back on after recovery.  I have no recollection of my underwear being removed/removing it myself.  I actually don't remember anything past them starting to wheel me into surgery.  I think they may have knocked me out with something prior to going in there.  What do you remember, Jay?
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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aleon515

They said I could take them off at the last minute which I did. They told me to take it off the underwear right before they put the, well what ever they put in there, as I was knocked out before I went into the operating room. Some guys say they recall something about putting their arms down. I have no recollection of anything about that at all. I don't recall the operating room. And very vaguely recall taking off the underwear so I am pretty sure that some guys didn't recall it as it was so close to being knocked out, at least that's what I am guessing.
I recall having to put away the phone and stuff more so.

Dr G had nothing to do with this. This seems to be a thing of the surgery center, they said something to do with being flammable, which is odd as the socks are 100% synthetic and would burn up like crazy, while the underwear is cotton and you wear the lovely manly garment, and that's cotton.

I don't really recall putting anything back on, including my clothes. LOL.


--Jay
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Jack_M

#10
You don't have to take off underwear if you don't want to. I didn't have to fight anything with regards to that as I was simply told to leave them on. Top surgery is a quick surgery on an area no where near downstairs! There's no reason to take them off and, as a patient, you have every legal right to refuse. If you refuse you need only sign consent that in the event of a need to remove your underwear you consent to them being removed. I didn't even have to do that in the case of top surgery. I have had a ton of surgery and I have never removed underwear unless the surgery was near that area.

The only way they can refuse is if they're not 100% cotton or they're too tight. So wear something comfortable, tagless and 100% cotton, I'd advise carrying an identical set in case you have to prove this, and it is your right to keep them on.

Edit: http://patientmodesty.org/tipsforpatients.aspx General information on rights to modesty as a patient. More in depth laws can be sourced but this is more overall generalised advice. Don't be afraid to stand up for your rights. You're not being difficult when you refuse to remove underwear. They do not (and without consent should absolutely not) insert catheters for short operations. If they were to do so they would face serious law suits for unnecessary procedures, only made worse by being on such an intimate area, without prior consent or reasons pertaining to a medical emergency. You should be asked if you have used the bathroom before surgery and then the simple act of fasting makes that a non concern!
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Alexthecat

Ah I will insist on keeping them on then. I don't want a cath in. I also want to be fully conscious when I leave and before I have any visitors. Did not appreciate being not "all there" when I had wisdom teeth removed. Plus they managed to get me in the car and if they would of waited 10 mins I would of been all there to walk myself.

Well had the big dream of having surgery last night. Can't imagine it will be the last, 18 days left.

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Bimmer Guy

Thanks for the information, Jay.  They must have taken mine off.  That's ok.  It doesn't bother me.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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aleon515

Quote from: Brett on December 26, 2013, 06:20:23 PM
Thanks for the information, Jay.  They must have taken mine off.  That's ok.  It doesn't bother me.

It seemed weird but I was wearing a gown, I don't think they are going to go and look and see my equipment. I think they are pretty busy.

--Jay
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: aleon515 on December 28, 2013, 05:48:03 PM
It seemed weird but I was wearing a gown, I don't think they are going to go and look and see my equipment. I think they are pretty busy.

--Jay

Exactly.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Jack_M

That's true, but for me it's more just the idea of things slipping down and being revealed.  They put you into a more upright position when they're looking to where to put the nipples for example and things could slip down there.  There's a part of me that doesn't care and there's a part that just sees it as entirely unnecessary in this case.  When it comes to actual procedures down there then yeah, I get that, but when the procedure is nowhere near that area, I just don't want that area being seen.  There's just no reason for it.  Could they pull underwear down and take a look?  Yeah, but then that'd attract attention from the other staff.  A lot of people would feel the same regardless of dysphoria.  Remember that anyone taking testosterone has growth in that area and people can have an interest in seeing that, it makes us different and something of medical interest.  For me - they can see that in someone else, I don't want to parade it.

It really is just the fact of whether that area needs to be bare at all.   In the case of top surgery, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for someone not to be allowed to wear cotton underwear.  Just absolutely no reason.  So in my mind the idea of asking someone not to wear anything there or making it some rule becomes a concern.  Why can't I wear underwear?  Are you going to be looking there?  Why?  There's been a lot of cases in the past of medical students performing exams on patients without their consent while under general anesthetic.  Since those cases they've been a lot stricter on things like that but the possibility is there and the knowledge that it has occurred is out there.  So it's a genuine concern for people and while I'm against scaring people into thinking it does take place (trust me, it's a lot stricter now and very rarely happens at least here in the western world) I still see it as being very, very wrong to tell people that surgeries of this sort require you to remove underwear and that it is some rule because it is a lie and as such I view it as unethical.  We do have rights here and for some they couldn't care less, and all power to you, but for others having to remove underwear can be an added concern and worry for them.  In some cases, you have to be without and that can't be helped, but the reality is that unless it is a very long operation or it's a surgery involving that area, it is a concern easily erased in just allowing that individual to wear their underwear.  And in this case, if any surgeon demands you remove underwear, then it's, in my opinion, a red flag.  Not necessarily because they're going to do something bad; more because they're not respecting your rights on something so trivial and unimportant to the actual surgery.
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Darrin Scott






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Bimmer Guy

You need to put up a top surgery ticker, Alex.  Darrin is down to 23 days!!!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Alexthecat

Had my call with the nurse. She said I would be awake before I went home and that I would eat something. They said no underwear in case I wet myself. They want to easily be able to clean it up. Though I can request mesh underwear.

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