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[TessaMarie]

I am not sure if I should start a new thread or append to this one.

The issue I am encountering is similar, albeit a bit different.

Erections declined rapidly when I started Finasteride in early May, as desired & intended.

Within 2-3 days of starting E in mid-June & switching Finasteride for a very low dose of Spiro (my blood pressure has always been at the low end of normal), the obsession & compulsion to wear female attire completely vanished.  I still enjoy it, but I am no longer obsessed about it.  This has continued from mid-June until now and is a very welcome change.

Yesterday evening my nipples became erogenous for the first time since I started HRT.  This happened once before in January when I was using a high enough dosage of herbs to land me in the ER.  Back in January my nipples became erogenous & my orgasms noticeably female in nature within 24 hours (NB: 24 hours later I was in the ER - I don't recommend this).

I was expecting something more gradual on HRT with medical supervision.  I was not expecting no reaction from nipple stimulation for over 6 months and then suddenly, boom! 

I thought I also noticed some breast growth, so I took some measurements this morning.  The difference bewteen my bust & band measurements is 7.2 inches this morning, up from 6.2 inches on the 19th December (the last time I took measurements).  It feels as if much of the increase has occurred within the past day or so.

It was wonderful to find my nipples become erogenous, especially after nothing happening in the orgasm department for a few months (they didn't completely disappear immediately).

I was caught by surprise at how quickly it happened.  Nothing has changed recently in my hormone intake.  My meds are stable and have been since late September (some tweaking was needed initially - the difference is that I am now on a slighly lower dose of Spiro and a small amount of Finasteride).

My questions is this:  Has anyone else experienced a similar sudden change while on HRT ?

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On multiple orgasms:  I learnt from an ex that men could have multiple orgasms back in '98 (at least 3, felt like more, over a continuous 15-minutes).

Knowing what I have learnt about myself this year since admitting I might be (ha!) trans after my ER visit in January (some good came from it), I am now wondering about how 'male' I was in that moment back then.

[Emo]

Oddly enough, im not on any hrt yet but i have some female sexual responses which leads me to believe some doctors got together and thought itd be funny to graft a penis over my vagina.

[stephaniec]

I am not sure if I should start a new thread or append to this one.

The issue I am encountering is similar, albeit a bit different.

Erections declined rapidly when I started Finasteride in early May, as desired & intended.

Within 2-3 days of starting E in mid-June & switching Finasteride for a very low dose of Spiro (my blood pressure has always been at the low end of normal), the obsession & compulsion to wear female attire completely vanished.  I still enjoy it, but I am no longer obsessed about it.  This has continued from mid-June until now and is a very welcome change.

Yesterday evening my nipples became erogenous for the first time since I started HRT.  This happened once before in January when I was using a high enough dosage of herbs to land me in the ER.  Back in January my nipples became erogenous & my orgasms noticeably female in nature within 24 hours (NB: 24 hours later I was in the ER - I don't recommend this).

I was expecting something more gradual on HRT with medical supervision.  I was not expecting no reaction from nipple stimulation for over 6 months and then suddenly, boom! 

I thought I also noticed some breast growth, so I took some measurements this morning.  The difference bewteen my bust & band measurements is 7.2 inches this morning, up from 6.2 inches on the 19th December (the last time I took measurements).  It feels as if much of the increase has occurred within the past day or so.

It was wonderful to find my nipples become erogenous, especially after nothing happening in the orgasm department for a few months (they didn't completely disappear immediately).

I was caught by surprise at how quickly it happened.  Nothing has changed recently in my hormone intake.  My meds are stable and have been since late September (some tweaking was needed initially - the difference is that I am now on a slighly lower dose of Spiro and a very small amount of Finasteride).

My questions is this:  Has anyone else experienced a similar sudden change while on HRT ?

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On multiple orgasms:  I learnt from an ex that men could have multiple orgasms back in '98 (at least 3, felt like more, over a continuous 15-minutes).

Knowing what I have learnt about myself this year since admitting I might be (ha!) trans after my ER visit in January (some good came from it), I am now wondering about how 'male' I was in that moment back then.

I notice one morning recently I looked down at my chest and aw these breasts staring back at me. quite the fun thing to see waking up

[LordKAT]

Oddly enough, im not on any hrt yet but i have some female sexual responses which leads me to believe some doctors got together and thought itd be funny to graft a penis over my vagina.

I had similar thoughts as a child, although in reverse.

[Emo]

You girls make me feel like a teenager ready for puberty. Lol

[Emo]

@kat
Strange feeling isnt it?

[mountainhun]

Can I just be a huge geek and leave this here for a moment?  Yes? No?  You can have a look if you want anyway. :3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_O

But seriously, good job for all of you!

[livinit]

This happened once before in January when I was using a high enough dosage of herbs to land me in the ER.  Back in January my nipples became erogenous & my orgasms noticeably female in nature within 24 hours (NB: 24 hours later I was in the ER - I don't recommend this).

Could you elaborate a little on this? What kind of herbs and what dosage? How did it land you in the ER? And what does "NB" mean?

[Carrie Liz]

I've pretty much lost the ability to orgasm, unfortunately... I still haven't figured out how to make it work now.

Basically, I still have a sex-drive, but it's MUCH harder to get it going to the point where I can really get wrapped up in it and even get remotely close to climax levels. And I have a serious issue with genital dysphoria, so it's really hard to get lost in the fantasy for me when that damned thing just feels so wrong, and is constantly changing and moving around, and is so sensitive now that I can barely touch it without it hurting. And I've tried the whole "g-spot" thing that people have suggested, but while that did get me a bit closer, still nothing.

It's been two months since I've made it, even though I've tried at least five times. I just don't understand how it's supposed to work now, with a very female sex-drive but male anatomy still getting in the way. And the stupid thing is, I've had "female" orgasms in my dreams before, so I know exactly the mental "getting lost in it" mindset that I need to be in to make it work, but the problem is that I can't figure out how to replicate that in real life. And it always feels like my anatomy is fighting against me instead of helping me in that regard.

[stephaniec]

I don't know if this will help ,but I've had severe dysphoria for a long time . I've always mentally bypassed the shaft of the penis. I've basically mentally have not  had a penis for quite some time .I manipulate as if there is nothing but vagina. It's really works well on HRT because there's no rigidity . actually it's a lot better on HRT. I don't know maybe It's just because I've been this way for so long. Mostly I concentrate on the base.

[Carrie Liz]

Problem is, there still is rigidity for me. If it would just stay down like it's supposed to, I wouldn't be having these problems. But the problem is, I'll start something that feels good, and then because it feels good it will start getting bigger, and so suddenly the main part that feels good is separated from the other part that feels good by 5 inches of useless erectile tissue. And nothing that I do after that is ever as good on the same level of completeness as when it was still limp. Once that erection happens, I can never get an ounce closer to orgasm, and it usually just leaves me downright frustrated.

[Riley Skye]

I can still orgasm but there is no intensity and I'm lucky to once a week. Sex has been a lot different because before I was on T it was all focused on the body part and now my whole body is really sensitive except for it. Honestlyit is so much better and more liberating now than it has ever been.

[stephaniec]

Problem is, there still is rigidity for me. If it would just stay down like it's supposed to, I wouldn't be having these problems. But the problem is, I'll start something that feels good, and then because it feels good it will start getting bigger, and so suddenly the main part that feels good is separated from the other part that feels good by 5 inches of useless erectile tissue. And nothing that I do after that is ever as good on the same level of completeness as when it was still limp. Once that erection happens, I can never get an ounce closer to orgasm, and it usually just leaves me downright frustrated.

I know the feeling of frustration with rigidity, It tens to spoil things. I manipulate parallel to the body so I delete a lot of the rigidity factor , It becomes more full body rather than a separate protrusion

[suzifrommd]

I know the feeling of frustration with rigidity, It tens to spoil things. I manipulate parallel to the body so I delete a lot of the rigidity factor , It becomes more full body rather than a separate protrusion

Erection is necessary for climax. All females get erect right before climax. Erection is as much a feminine experience as a masculine one.

[anjaq]

Erection is necessary for climax. All females get erect right before climax. Erection is as much a feminine experience as a masculine one.

So true. It is different I think but of course erections are not male. Though admittedly with male genitalia it is harder to hide that

Oddly enough, im not on any hrt yet but i have some female sexual responses which leads me to believe some doctors got together and thought itd be funny to graft a penis over my vagina.

Oh yes indeed, I had a similar feeling. I thought one would basically have to take something away that is covered over it. I thought maybe it was i a weird way grown over or something. I even tried to "poke in" some times and thought that I felt that there is actually room there that jus is covered. Sadly that was just a trick of my mind, well...

[Tori]

Women....

Sigh.

How can I learn to help my wife if I can't help myself?

I have always been good. I wanna' be a ninja!

[TessaMarie]

Could you elaborate a little on this? What kind of herbs and what dosage? How did it land you in the ER? And what does "NB" mean?

NB = Nota Bene = Latin for "Note Well"

I think it was mostly the Fenugreek that got me.  I was taking about 5 times the dose recommended on the label.

I also took Saw Palmetto & Black Cohosh (& then Red Clover), but at the dose suggested.

All of them have the side effect of lowering blood pressure.  Since my normal blood pressure is about 110/70, it didn't take long for my body to react to the herbs by lowering my blood pressure enough for me to collapse unresponsive for several minutes (probably not unconscious, since my eyes were open & unfocused) with shallow laboured breathing.

The EMT's took my blood pressure once they got me into the ambulance.  It was 90/60 then, which was about 10 minutes after I came to.  10 minutes of me being able to breathe normally, think & walk (a bit unsteadily).  10 minutes of my blood pressure slowly recovering.  To the best of my knowledge, 70/50 is viewed as an indicator of imminent death.

My experience with the herbs has taught me that I enter very dangerous territory when I act without medical supervision.

I admit I had considered 'herbs' to be separate from 'medicine' until I saw a youtube video of an old classmate talking about it.  Go to 2:55 on this video & listen for 10 seconds:

[Tori]

Update!

I am making progress! Intensity is back to pre HRT levels although the sensation is indescribably different.

I notice I can tickle my own body now, this did not work on T... and tickles radiate... tingles...

Getting to know my nipples is WAY TOO FUN!

No multiples yet, but that just means more practice required.

I am starting to get the emotional connection aspect, and it is so different but it is really cool.

It does not work the same way and things will continue to change I imagine, but yeah, I am a fan! This IS better than being on T, better already. No need to do it often, but ready when I feel like it. It is like I make a conscious choice to play, which is more rewarding than being at the mercy of male compulsion.

Weeeeee!

[ath]

I have yet to start HRT (mtf) but I think you'll find this interesting:

I'm able to make myself orgasm without being physically touched at all. Simply using the power of thought. It takes a little while to work up to it and I have to be aroused, but I've been able to do it for years, ever since I did this hypnosis thing to see if it would work.

What else is interesting is that the orgasm feels very different. When it happens, (really sorry if this is tmi but I think it's important) I don't shoot like normal but it simply slowly flows out, and in much less volume, meanwhile the sensations get rapidly more intense, spreading through me to the point where it's too intense and I stop. I think maybe the 'female orgasm' is actually a totally different orgasm unreliant on physical sensations, and dependant on mental sensations. It seems likely to me, considering when I mentally make myself orgasm with no physical sensations, it's a vastly different orgasm

[Rachel]

Three weeks into hrt my libido and function crashed. It took me a week or 2 to relearn how to become excited. Mental is the key for me with caressing my body and nipples. Orgasm is intense and my lower body is quite involves with muscle contraction and then a huge sense of euphoria. The visualization act is very dysphoric but I accept how I feel and perceive myself ( I need an alignment ).

Never tried a multiple, huuuuum, never thought it to be. I will try.