Existence

[Anatta]

KIa Ora,

Who or what is it that 'exists' ?

🔗


Metta Zenda

[Jamie D]

Cogito ergo sum

I exist.

[Cindy]

A philosophical unsound argument

[Jenna Stannis]

Anthropocentrism.

[Anatta]

Cogito ergo sum

I exist.

Kia Ora Jamie,

But in what form ?

Metta Zenda 🙂

[Jill F]

From whose (or what's) perspective?

[Anatta]

From whose (or what's) perspective?

Kia Ora Jill,

The ego's...

Metta Zenda 🙂

[Misato]

I have a consciousness that seems to exist because I am experiencing it, and right now my consciousness thinks I am in front of my computer typing a post on susans.org under the subject of Existence. But does my computer or keyboard or susans.org exist? I can't know. I have to listen to the input of my fingers and eyes so I'm sensing the world by proxy, therefore, I can't really trust the input I'm being given as proof of existence. I could be asleep right now, I could be in the Matrix. I don't really know. I also have no idea if anyone will really see this text or that any feed back I do get is coming from anyone other than myself because everything could just be a figment of my imagination.

My consciousness might not even exist I suppose, I could just be experiencing something that I understand as consciousness, somehow. So something has to exist, right?

I had an art teacher who liked to talk about this stuff and we went over it in a Philosophy class I took. Quite the thought exercise.

[Emo]

We all exist in a computer simulation where the "higher being" forgets turn on the regularity between human norms giving us the ability, nay, the right to act how we want to obtain inner peace through use of anything we wish.
But does our method really work?

[amZo]

Well, first let me say... THANK GOD FOR THOSE SUBTITLES! WOULD'VE BEEN LOST WITHOUT 'EM!

The more I learn about science, the more I'm convinced there's a creator of all of this and beyond. Everything around us is a complete illusion comprised of virtually nothing put empty space, it's more energy than matter. If you condensed the solid matter in the Empire State building, it would all fit in a tablespoon (or is it teaspoon? who care?). How can all this matter and energy spring up from nothing?

I believe when I die, I'll appear again in some unimaginable distant universe, as something else in all likelihood. Maybe a higher life form, maybe less, but hopefully a unicorn, I like unicorns.  😉

[Anatta]

I have a consciousness that seems to exist because I am experiencing it, and right now my consciousness thinks I am in front of my computer typing a post on susans.org under the subject of Existence. But does my computer or keyboard or susans.org exist? I can't know. I have to listen to the input of my fingers and eyes so I'm sensing the world by proxy, therefore, I can't really trust the input I'm being given as proof of existence. I could be asleep right now, I could be in the Matrix. I don't really know. I also have no idea if anyone will really see this text or that any feed back I do get is coming from anyone other than myself because everything could just be a figment of my imagination.

My consciousness might not even exist I suppose, I could just be experiencing something that I understand as consciousness, somehow. So something has to exist, right?

I had an art teacher who liked to talk about this stuff and we went over it in a Philosophy class I took. Quite the thought exercise.

Kia Ora Misato,

In true reality(what's really happening in this moment) no neither 'you' nor the things you mentioned exist from their own side...They are just figments of imagination produce by the senses ...

And you my dear lady are just another ego-centric thought (produced by the interaction of two or more of the senses) that thinks it is thinking all this...just as "I" do/am...

Now "I" could be wrong, but right and wrong are relative... when it comes to the grand scheme of things... 😉

Metta Zenda

[Anatta]

We all exist in a computer simulation where the "higher being" forgets turn on the regularity between human norms giving us the ability, nay, the right to act how we want to obtain inner peace through use of anything we wish.
But does our method really work?

Kia Ora Emo,

And perhaps the creator of the computer simulation is also computer simulated and the creator of that simulation is also a computer simulation and.....................................................................................infinitum  😉

Metta Zenda

[Jamie D]

Kia Ora Jamie,

But in what form ?

Metta Zenda

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Rene Descartes explains it all for you!

Ego sum res cogitans, id est dubitans, affirmans, negans, pauca intelligens, multa ignorans, volens, nolens, imaginans etiam et sentiens.

I am a rational thing, to wit a doubter, affirmer, denier, understanding little, ignorant of much, wanting, refusing, imagining and feeling.

[Anatta]

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Rene Descartes explains it all for you!

Kia Ora Jamie,

Descartes, does not exist and never did exist  😉

Metta Zenda

[Emo]

Kia Ora Emo,

And perhaps the creator of the computer simulation is also computer simulated and the creator of that simulation is also a computer simulation and.....................................................................................infinitum  😉

Metta Zenda

By Joe, i think we've got it!

[Anatta]

Well, first let me say... THANK GOD FOR THOSE SUBTITLES! WOULD'VE BEEN LOST WITHOUT 'EM!

The more I learn about science, the more I'm convinced there's a creator of all of this and beyond. Everything around us is a complete illusion comprised of virtually nothing put empty space, it's more energy than matter. If you condensed the solid matter in the Empire State building, it would all fit in a tablespoon (or is it teaspoon? who care?). How can all this matter and energy spring up from nothing?

I believe when I die, I'll appear again in some unimaginable distant universe, as something else in all likelihood. Maybe a higher life form, maybe less, but hopefully a unicorn, I like unicorns. 

Kia Ora Nikko,

In a multi universe, you might already be a unicorn whose dreaming it is a human....

Metta Zenda 🙂

[Emo]

Hmm...
Question?
If we dont exist, then why do we constantly have the urge to exist through keeping hunger away, loneliness at bay, and needing to sleep so we wake up the next day?
It seems we would not feel pain, anguish, or this need to be in a world that didnt exist. Am i right , or spouting insecurities across the spectrum?

[Jill F]

Desire

[amZo]

Kia Ora Nikko,

In a multi universe, you might already be a unicorn whose dreaming it is a human....

Metta Zenda

Wouldn't that be cool! I do believe there are infinite instances of others almost identical to each of us out there in the multiverse, I feel very connected to those that look like me. Each direction I look in the night sky, I know my mirror image is looking back at me.  As well as the unicorns, can't leave out the unicorns.  🙂

[MadelineB]

"I" am a meta phenomenon, the comment lines in the universe's code about itself. I am exactly as conscious as the universe is, only much smaller and sassier. I have been assigned certain powers by the architect, and by following my nature I expand those powers. I don't exist independently.