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question about "the left wing"

Started by kariann330, January 11, 2014, 12:46:23 AM

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kariann330

To the point of any elected official would loose there jobs. Diane Feinstine has tried already but she still has a job. She was even willing to try again recently...proof and i quote "If I knew I could get enough votes for the bill to pass, it would be hand them all over Mr. and Mrs. America" because of politicians like her, i am proud to say i am a Life Member of the NRA, and am even more proud of having Pelican cases for all of my guns. I will bury them before i hand them over.
I need a hero to save me now, i need a hero to save my life, a hero will save me just in time!!

"Don't bother running from a sniper, you will just die tired and sweaty"

Longest shot 2500yards, Savage 110BA 338 Lapua magnum, 15X scope, 10X magnifier. Bipod.
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kariann330

Quote from: TiffanyT on February 13, 2014, 02:57:11 AM
Really? My Kimber is a total safe queen. My USP 9 compact is my preferred option and what I practice with. I have a 229 on hold though so we'll see what happens when that gets into the rotation. My baby is my m9 which is hands down my fave to shoot. I just learned about the compact version which is must own if it makes it into Cali.

Really, my Crimson Carry goes with me every time i leave the house. Heck im actually tempted to get my Class 3 tax stamp so i can convert my Saiga 12 to an SBS and keep it stashed next to my couch lol.
I need a hero to save me now, i need a hero to save my life, a hero will save me just in time!!

"Don't bother running from a sniper, you will just die tired and sweaty"

Longest shot 2500yards, Savage 110BA 338 Lapua magnum, 15X scope, 10X magnifier. Bipod.
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Jamie D

Quote from: michelle on February 21, 2014, 11:42:52 PM
I feel that the lack of issuing a licence for people to own a gun, like a driver's licence and gun registration only protects criminals.    The government is not our enemy,  the lawless and the criminals in our society provide the threat.    When the police find unregistered guns in the hands of an unlicensed gun owner then the authorities could take the guns away.    If a person commits a crime with a weapon licenced to them then they could readily be apprehended.    There is not any sized block of any group in the United States which would allow the government to take registered guns away from any licenced individual.   You could not get the police,  the National Guard, the Military, the FBI,  the Federal Bureau of Tobacco and Fire Arms, that would be willing to take licenced guns from individuals licenced to carry fire arms.   Licencing could be free and so could registration.    The right of gun ownership is not any more important than any other civil right of residents and citizens of the United States.   Not every civil right that citizens have was recorded in the US Constitution and its Amendments.   Many of the writers of the Constitution did not include a Bill of Rights because they feared that the rights not protected specifically in the Constitution would be endangered.   The Bill of Rights was only added to the Constitution because some of the original states stated that they would not vote for the Constitution unless they were added.

Thus the National Rife Association is really only protecting criminals and the gun lobby in their resistance to have any laws passed that would protect the residence and citizens of the United States from the misuse of fire arms.   

Everyone knows that every citizen in the United States who does not have a criminal record and is of sound mind and body has the right to own guns.   Registration of gun owners and of guns would not result in any citizen who has the right to own a gun from owning one.     But with the right to own a gun comes the responsibility to see that that weapon is never used in a crime or is sold to an individual who does not have the right to own one.   Any elected, hired, or appointed governmental official would loose their jobs if they ever attempted to take guns away from law abiding and mentally sound individuals.

The right of every individual in the United States not to be a victim of gun violence is just as important as the right to own a gun.   If you have to have official identification to vote than you can also be required to have to have a licence to carry a fire arm.   You have to have a registered title to own real estate and vehicles, than your guns should also be registered in the same way your car and house is.    After all you have the right to own real estate and vehicles and businesses.    Guns are no different.

This is just my opinion.   And yes, when I was 13 in the scouts I was trained to use a 22 rife by an NRA approved individuals,  one of which was second in command of our local National Guard Unit.    The others were at scout camps.   I even had a card issued by the NRA that I had received training.   This was in the 1960s.   I am not against guns,  I just never had any use for one,  especially since I moved from rural Americas to the urban populated area.  I never felt that owning a gun would make me safer.   Until I moved to New Mexico and saw the bars on the windows of my neighbors the doors of my home were never locked any where I lived.     Ammunition was always too expensive for me and I never had a good place to practice shooting a gun.   I never took any pleasure from hunting.

This is just my point of view and I bare no ill will against others who think differently.   Also, very rarely have I lived in  places that the majority of people would consider safe.    The ability to take another's life does not make me feel safe,  nor does the thought that a gun that I owned could be used to take mine.

Think about it registering the title of your house, real estate, motor vehicles, business licences with county and state governments protects your legal right to this property in a court of law.    If you depend upon the government to protect your rights to your property, patients, copy rights, etc., why can't you depend upon the government to protect your right to own fire arms.

"Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
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Shantel

In response to laws recently enacted in Connecticut as a knee jerk reaction to the school shootings, some liberal legislators may be looking for a new line of work eventually as their constituency is obviously unhappy and non-compliant which will spell trouble at the polls later on.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/17649-connecticut-gun-owners-ignore-registration-deadline
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amZo

According to the article...

"If a gun owner fails to register a firearm that now falls under the vastly broadened definition of an "assault" weapon, his crime, if convicted, is punishable by a prison term of one to five years and a fine of up to $5,000. Plus he would not be able to own a firearm ever after."

Maybe they want them to fail to comply? Isn't that what corrupt governments do, create laws they intend for you to break? Thugs.
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Shantel

Quote from: Nikko on February 23, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
According to the article...

"If a gun owner fails to register a firearm that now falls under the vastly broadened definition of an "assault" weapon, his crime, if convicted, is punishable by a prison term of one to five years and a fine of up to $5,000. Plus he would not be able to own a firearm ever after."

Maybe they want them to fail to comply? Isn't that what corrupt governments do, create laws they intend for you to break? Thugs.

There are so many state and federal laws on the books that people aren't even aware that they are not in compliance with that it is a joke. However they are useful for any governmental entity that wants to apply them to a specific individual to harass or punish him/her.
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dalebert

Notice that the drug war ramped up dramatically during Nixon's term right around when hippies were protesting the war. Can't attack them for undesirable speech? First amendment being a pesky impediment? Damn. How do we shut them up?


Shantel

Quote from: dalebert on February 23, 2014, 10:12:56 PM
Notice that the drug war ramped up dramatically during Nixon's term right around when hippies were protesting the war. Can't attack them for undesirable speech? First amendment being a pesky impediment? Damn. How do we shut them up?

Yes good example of how it works!
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Shantel

Warning if you have blood pressure problems, this will drive it through the roof. Maybe the social service would consider paying for a tubal ligation and a head exam for this sweetheart!  >:-)


http://www.youtube.com/embed/RBqjZ0KZCa0?showinfo=0&rel=0&hd=0





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Colleen♡Callie

One of my history professors pointed out that the right to bear arms was never meant to be used in the context used today.  It specifically meant the right to pick up arms and use them inside your right to form a militia.  It as well as many other rights stated were in direct response to the british rule and the tactics we used in the revolution.  Designed so that the American populace had the right to take up arms, form a militia and overthrow a gov't that is no longer servicing it's populace and/or has grown oppressive.

Freedom of religion, right to free speech, not having to give quarter, freedom of assembly, etc.  all are rights written in response to british rule, and so is the freedom to bear arm.

That said, it's meaning has evolved over the ages to mean in todays society the right to own a gun.

But that was far from it's intent.  For the colonist of that time, owning a gun was never in question.  It was not something you needed to guarantee or permit, it just was.  It was an everyday tool like a hammer.  Needed often times to catch ones dinner in many areas, protection from "savages" and criminals.  To them putting a clause to ensure you could own a gun was as trivial as putting a clause in to own a hammer.  It was written to protect our right as citizens to bear those arms (which meant all weapons one might use) as part of a militia in protection of our rights and liberties.

It is only since firearms began to require permits in order to own and our universally seen right to own a gun started to come into question, that interpretation of that right shifted to the right to own guns.
"Tell my tale to those who ask.  Tell it truly; the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly.  The rest is silence." - Dinobot



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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Shantel on February 28, 2014, 12:02:46 PM
Warning if you have blood pressure problems, this will drive it through the roof. Maybe the social service would consider paying for a tubal ligation and a head exam for this sweetheart!  >:-)


http://www.youtube.com/embed/RBqjZ0KZCa0?showinfo=0&rel=0&hd=0

Good lord!!

15 kids??!!

My first thought was: "How the hell is she so skinny after having this many babies?"

As far as "someone needing to be held accountable"....ummmm how about YOU (the woman in the video) for not keeping your damn legs shut?

Sheesh!!!

People like this (and no, I am not implying anything to do with race) need to either be sterilized or look into some serious commitment into alternative sexual techniques.

Seriously.
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amZo

Well, dems have found someone to pay, it's us. Well, me for sure, can't speak for others.

Why does she still have her kids? And why are her tubes not tied?

And her fifteen will each very soon produce another fifteen we have to pay for. This is not compassion, it's cruel. In an odd way, she has a point, she's not the only one responsible for this. Certain politicians who need a permanent underclass are equally as responsible.
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Nikko on February 28, 2014, 04:55:21 PM
In an odd way, she has a point, she's not the only one responsible for this. Certain politicians who need a permanent underclass are equally as responsible.

Yeah, you may have a point on your head, BUT, no one required her to have that many kids. Politicians do a lot for screwing things up in this country but in this case, it is entirely her fault.
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Eris

I saw something on this topic today and thought I'd share it.

A satirical comparison between gun legislation in America and Australia (who implemented gun-control nearly two decades ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE&list=PLOKWcH1zBl2kfnCwyyZWk5MW28lgaNa7L
I refuse to live in fear! Come hell or high water I will not back down! I will live my life!
But you have no life.
Ha. Even that won't stop me.

I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right.



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amZo

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on February 28, 2014, 05:08:20 PM
Yeah, you may have a point on your head, BUT, no one required her to have that many kids. Politicians do a lot for screwing things up in this country but in this case, it is entirely her fault.

True enough, but she wouldn't have had 15 kids if the state wasn't giving her cash each month for each one. So, I blame the enablers too. This woman, the sperm donors, and the state I say are all guilty, guilty, guilty.  >:(
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Nikko on February 28, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
True enough, but she wouldn't have had 15 kids if the state wasn't giving her cash each month for each one. So, I blame the enablers too. This woman, the sperm donors, and the state I say are all guilty, guilty, guilty.  >:(

I see where you are going with this but I still place all of the blame on the woman. If I were a GG, there is no way in hell I would spit out children like some sort of ovarian assembly line just so I could get money from the state. That would be abusing a system that is there for people that truly need it. Not losers that scam it by doing things like this.
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Jill F

Yes, a financial incentive to keep impoverished women with clown car hoo-hahs in check would be best instead of rewarding that behavior with more handouts, but once a child is born, I don't think kicking it to the curb and punishing it for the parent's poor choices is the answer.  If you can afford every one of them, I think it's fine to have as many kids as you want.

Sorry, I would rather just subsidize tubal ligations in cases like that.

Hey, wasn't this thread s'posed to be about guns?
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Jill F on February 28, 2014, 05:46:53 PM
Hey, wasn't this thread s'posed to be about guns?

*Shoots you with a super-soaker full of Mountain Dew*
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Jill F

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on February 28, 2014, 06:30:26 PM
*Shoots you with a super-soaker full of Mountain Dew*

Lady, step away from the carbs and put your hands where I can see 'em! 

Carbs kill more people than guns.  Just sayin'...
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Jill F on February 28, 2014, 09:08:37 PM
Lady, step away from the carbs and put your hands where I can see 'em! 

Carbs kill more people than guns.  Just sayin'...

Well, that is why I used the Dew as a weapon. Do you think that I would actually DRINK that stuff? :icon_blah: I drink water about 70% of the time. I DID have a 20 oz bottle of Pepsi today with the P-Zone that I ordered from Pizza Hut, but I only order from them every few months and I usually do without the soda. Today was a rare exception.
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