Shortcut to female voice

[Amy]

So I do my fair share of research on things I am trying learn mostly which has recently been voice changing since I have to wait for HRT and voice therapy for a little while still and I figured it never hurts to start early with this.
I ran into this article today: http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/
This seems so to go in against some other things I read about but it does seem to make some sense to me after reading trough it so I figured it doesn't hurt trying.

I've been trying to follow the described steps and trying my best to understand the article but so far I'm having a little trouble with getting control of the muscles. I can hold the muscles after swallowing but I am unable to breathe when I do so and so far am unable to do the movement without swallowing. I've only been trying for a like an hour or so and am probably just being impatient but also wanted to share it with you girls and see your opinions about it, who knows perhaps it does work or atleast help a bit.

[Sarah Rose]

Interesting read.. I'll look into it.
I should point out however that hormones will do nothing for a mtf voice... unfortunately.

[FalseHybridPrincess]

Interesting read.. I'll look into it.
I should point out however that hormones will do nothing for a mtf voice... unfortunately.

depends on your voice , but still yeah the chances are slim...

[Amy]

Interesting read.. I'll look into it.
I should point out however that hormones will do nothing for a mtf voice... unfortunately.

Oh I'm aware of that, I just mentioned it to give an idea of the state of "waiting" I am currently in. Thanks for being helpful though.

[Unni]

I came to a similar conclusion after reading around alot, cannot remember the exact source. I get a kind of false voice when trying to talk and singing words, singing just vowels is fine though. Haven't found a pitch I'm comfortable at nor can I keep my voice for long, goes away into harsh sounds after a while. Ah well I guess I just need more training 

The article was interesting and a good addition I think 

[Sarah Rose]

I wish they would change the male voice though... it would make things much easier.
I always get nervous practicing my voice, I hate hearing it... That alone makes it hard to practice.


I'll give this a try though.

[Jessika Lin]

Very interesting! I still need to start my voice training so thanks for the link Amy!

[vlmitchell]

Heh. This is precisely the technique that I did through intuition all those years ago. JSYK, if you can get the trick of it (and there *is* more than just the muscular rearrangement like lilt and tilt of the phonemes) you never, *ever* get misgendered.

[FalseHybridPrincess]

Ι didnt quite understand what I need to do...

can someone explain? with easy words or somethin 

[sam79]

This is basically the same method I used to train my voice just with different information to get there. Sadly I can't find the link to the material I used...

For a month or two, I didn't actually say a great deal, instead just focusing on controlling those muscles. It's what gives you absolute control over your voice, and I'd say it's easily the most important part in mtf voice training. And like any muscle, you need to keep using it for it to stay strong and under control. Every morning I still need to 'stretch' my vocal muscles for a few minutes.

I may also note, if you do get your voice into the correct shape, it's impossible ( at least for me ) to sound male. That was a huge shock! .

There's also much more which goes on top of it, learning to control head resonance, timbre, twang. But you can worry about those later.

P.S. It's not a shortcut. It'll still take a minimum of many months to start sounding like a girl.

[Hikari]

Interesting find, thank you for posting this, more information to digest. This is one of the hardest things it seems for me is to get into a female voice and stay there, I keep slipping out, so perhaps going about it this way might work better.

[Unni]

@FalsePrincess
Learn to pull your adam's apple upwards and backwards, using the same muscle that pulls it up when you swallow. Hope it helps somewhat 

[Joan]

I found this useful too.

I've been forcing my voice box up, but pulling it back gave an instant added femaleness to my voice. It still needs a lot of work, but I think this is really helpful.

[Alexa]

Woah, I think I've been accidentally doing this, or at least something close, for a while. I will occasionally say something and it will have a softer tone to it, completely randomly. Often accompanied by weird looks from friends . Great to know the reason behind it.

[Amy]

Ugh, I showed the article to my boyfriend and it took him like 10 minutes to learn it.
I am still unable to do it after several hours of trying and it's making me feel rather depressed.

[KittyKat]

Definitely trying this out but when I try to get opinions I get told my male voice is pretty much girly as is. I just fear people are being nice.

[Sarah Rose]

Definitely trying this out but when I try to get opinions I get told my male voice is pretty much girly as is. I just fear people are being nice.

I know the feeling....
I've been on edge wondering if I should start trying to use my voice at work... but... even if it does pass my average call is 10-20minutes so I might not be able to hold the voice the whole time.
(I'm a computer support tech/over the phone)

[GinaDouglas]

I know the feeling....
I've been on edge wondering if I should start trying to use my voice at work... but... even if it does pass my average call is 10-20minutes so I might not be able to hold the voice the whole time.
(I'm a computer support tech/over the phone)

Yeah, don't.  It just confuses the customers, which you can't afford if you are being evaluated by customer surveys.  In person, the predominince of vision, helps a deep voice sound sufficiently female.  But over the phone, almost nobody can do a passable female voice.  This is aggravated by the fact that most women raise their voices even higher when talking on the phone.  I found that, even using a clearly male voice, my speech patterns and inflections were such that people would call me Maam, and then correct to Sir, and be embarassed.  So, for phone work, I wound up using a deep voice, and actually trying to sound male.

And yeah, even fresh-voiced, when I was trying to sound female, it's hard to keep it up for a 30 minute call, and that can make a real mess.

[Kyra553]

bookmarked your link. It sounds like it is worth a shot. 

[Lyric]

Having a pronounced Adam's apple myself, I learned long ago that pulling the apple up and back both hides it and raises the voice nicely. I've never found it something I could do constantly without letting it slip back down, though. It would take great will power to keep it tucked up long enough, but I suppose eventually the muscles would adjust to that position and you would stay that way when relaxed. As mentioned in the article, though, it probably beats the risk of surgery if you can pull it off.