Okay.

[Tori]

Cramps suck. Muscles that won't release even if you want to move them in a different direction. Painful.

And yes, they are likely due to dehydration.

Also, yes, boob and nipple pain will likely come.

[Androgynous_Machine]

Also, yes, boob and nipple pain will likely come.

Pain as in "ouch I have a hangnail" or "Ouch, I just got stabbed in the gut with a rusted spoon"?


-AM

[Annabelle]

Oh my Simca the Swift XD

Congrats on starting hrt Emo :3

[Tori]

Pain as in "ouch I have a hangnail" or "Ouch, I just got stabbed in the gut with a rusted spoon"?


-AM

A little from column a and a little from column b. Depends on what you do to them or what you walk into.

[Emo]

A little from column a and a little from column b. Depends on what you do to them or what you walk into.

we're talking cramps not breasts. Speaking of which i think ive got breast buds coming in. Little lumps under my tatas and it hurts when i press.

And thanks for the sentiments and congratulatory posts guys. ^__^

[V M]

If you are having severe cramps it would probably be a good idea to consult your Dr. They may need to adjust your dosage

[Tori]

we're talking cramps not breasts. Speaking of which i think ive got breast buds coming in. Little lumps under my tatas and it hurts when i press.

And thanks for the sentiments and congratulatory posts guys. ^__^

Excuse my confusion, as you quoted me talking about breasts and not cramps.

The Internet can be imperfect sometimes.

Breast cramps have been quite uncommon for me. In fact I can't remember having one. The muscles seem to be fading faster there than anywhere else and replaced with soft fatty tissue and odd feeling glandular buds. You really need muscles to cramp.

Congrats on your developments!

[Emo]

Excuse my confusion, as you quoted me talking about breasts and not cramps.

The Internet can be imperfect sometimes.

Breast cramps have been quite uncommon for me. In fact I can't remember having one. The muscles seem to be fading faster there than anywhere else and replaced with soft fatty tissue and odd feeling glandular buds. You really need muscles to cramp.

Congrats on your developments!

Its ok. And idk what anyone else was talking about but i was talking about belly cramps. Cis girls without a uterus even have cramps so i was kind of wondering if trans women get them too.

And thanks.

[Tori]

I have not heard of belly cramps as a common side effect of HRT, but then, I have not heard of such quick results in one's posterior as you have reported, nor have I heard of the hips and pelvis readjusting so quickly... so, as they say, YMMV.

If cis men can have sympathetic labor pains, I suppose what you describe about stomach cramps is also possible, although, without ovaries, a uterus, and a monthly female cycle, it seems significantly less likely.

In general, if a MTF has excessive and intermittent cramps, it is likely a sign of dehydration or other complications not related to a hormonal cycle. It would be worth mentioning to a doctor, and not a normal side effect of transition.

[Emo]

Oh i didnt feel it. Not yet anyways.
My friend says i could be sensitive to estrogen so that could be why im progressing so fast.
I do remember feeling my chest when i was younger and finding little bulbs of something, but i didnt know what they were at the time. They sorta felt like breast buds from what i remember though.

It could also be that ive been massaging for a few weeks now.

[Tori]

Breast tissue growth and nipple stiffness/tenderness are often among the first estrogen induced changes MTFs notice.

The growing butt and change in alignment are far less common.

[Emo]

Breast tissue growth and nipple stiffness/tenderness are often among the first estrogen induced changes MTFs notice.

The growing butt and change in alignment are far less common.

I see.
So my butt isnt supposed to change yet.

[Tori]

I see.
So my butt isnt supposed to change yet.

If you have spent any time on these boards, and from your post count it sure seems like you have, and if you have even read this very thread, you would have come across the term YMMV.

YMMV means, "Your mileage may vary."

When it comes to changes, there is no, "Supposed to" there is only what is more common and what is less common. Some people hardly react at all to estrogen. That is uncommon. Some people notice some slight budding in the breasts within a week or two, which is much more common.

Another common thing is enthusiasm from starting HRT to cause a transitioner to become hyper-aware of their own body, simply because they are now actively looking for changes. Some of these changes one notices are indeed changes and some are things that were there all along, but the transitioner was never self-aware enough to notice until after starting HRT.

It is also common for someone to start standing, sitting and walking differently after starting HRT. Why? Because the inner woman has been released. This, over time will probably change the size and shape of muscles, tendons and ligaments.

Your body is likely already going through some drastic changes, as is your mind. Over months and years, these changes will likely compound in ways you can only imagine right now. Or it may not happen at all, but that is far less likely.

One way to confirm these changes is by measurement. Get measured every week or month. For best results have someone else measure you, as the temptation to pull your own tape a little tighter each week, may throw off the results, if you measure yourself. Weigh yourself weekly. Document the findings. Photograph yourself monthly or weekly. Keep a journal to track the evolution of your state of mind.

So, what you are experiencing is neither supposed to happen, nor is it not supposed to happen. It is just uncommon and in your case, undocumented, so the likelihood that it is your enthusiasm, causing you to be self aware of things that were already there, rather than rapid and drastic changes is statisticly more likely.

I hope that clarifies things.

Just you wait for what is to come! It gets rather wild for most of us within the first few months.

Aloha,
Tori

[Emo]

 That explains a lot. I know my breast size hasnt changed too much i dont think. Unless the massaging several weeks before hrt helped any.
But my butt im sure has changed. It wasnt so... Fatty... And i usually felt muscle. So thats changed.

As for my walking, i spose youre right. I could want to walk a certain way opposed to my "normal" way of walking.

Thankfully a good friend gave me the same advice. I measured everything so ill be able to check back and see my progress.

[Tori]

Measurements have really given me peace of mind, as I am shrinking and softening in all places but my chest and I have the numbers to confirm it.

For me, deep tissue massage of my chest before HRT really softened the whole area... it took a month or two to fully tighten back up. Now, I would not dare go as deep as it would really HURT. Too bad. But I can still massage them, and it is getting rather enjoyable.

As for your butt? Cool! Women's fat goes to the chest the hips, the thighs and the butt. It is not out of the realm of possibility. I have noticed quite a bit of softening, but I am shrinking there for now, so I suspect I am losing muscle mass.

[Emo]

Nice.

And ouch. Remind me not to go too deep when my chest grows out.
I hope i get softer soon.
I havent been able to eat as much so i might lose a bit of weight too.

[Tori]

I won't need to remind you. Your chest will probably do that for me.

[Emo]

I won't need to remind you. Your chest will probably do that for me.

My chest is starting to yell at me.

[Tori]

Buckle up.

It is going to be a bumpy ride.

[ToniB]

the sore boobs can be very uncomfortable at times and it can be hard to prevent yourself from touching or rubbing them therefore inadvertantly pointing them out to onlookers LOL.But I for one have absolutely no wish to change the things happening to ME I love love love my changes small as they are

Hugs Anita xxx