Crossfit’s “scientific” refusal to allow Chloie Jönnson to compete in women’s di

[Natasha]

Crossfit's "scientific" refusal to allow Chloie Jönnson to compete in women's division not actually supported by science

http://www.transadvocate.com/crossfits-scientific-refusal-to-allow-chloie-jonnson-to-compete-in-womens-division-not-actually-supported-by-science_n_13160.htm
By Mari Brighe
3/21/14

In a situation that recalls the recent controversy around MMA Fighter Fallon Fox, Chloie Jönsson, a trans woman, was recently banned from competing in the women's division of Reebok's CrossFit athletic competition, a high-intensity endurance fitness challenge with a cash-prize of $250,000. She is now suing Crossfit for $2.5 million for discrimination. In the letter to her lawyer, obtained by TMZ, CrossFit contends that:

     "This is simply wrong as a matter of human biology and if you can't see that, there really isn't much to talk about. Chloie was born, genetically – as a matter of fact – with an X and a Y chromosome and all of the anatomy of a male of the human race. Today, notwithstanding any hormone therapy or surgeries, Chloie still has an X and Y chromosome. Thus, you're [sic] statement is categorically, empirically, false. ... The fundamental, ineluctable fact is that a male competitor who has a sex reassignment procedure still has a genetic makeup that confers a physical and physiological advantage over women.

Unfortunately, CrossFit's statements conflict strongly the current understanding of the physiology of transition and our understanding of the human genome, along with current standards of major sports rules making bodies.

[930310]

In a situation that recalls the recent controversy around MMA Fighter Fallon Fox, Chloie Jönsson, a trans woman, was recently banned from competing in the women's division of Reebok's CrossFit athletic competition, a high-intensity endurance fitness challenge with a cash-prize of $250,000. She is now suing Crossfit for $2.5 million for discrimination. In the letter to her lawyer, obtained by TMZ, CrossFit contends that:
"This is simply wrong as a matter of human biology and if you can't see that, there really isn't much to talk about. Chloie was born, genetically – as a matter of fact – with an X and a Y chromosome and all of the anatomy of a male of the human race. Today, notwithstanding any hormone therapy or surgeries, Chloie still has an X and Y chromosome. Thus, you're [sic] statement is categorically, empirically, false. ... The fundamental, ineluctable fact is that a male competitor who has a sex reassignment procedure still has a genetic makeup that confers a physical and physiological advantage over women."


http://www.transadvocate.com/crossfits-scientific-refusal-to-allow-chloie-jonnson-to-compete-in-womens-division-not-actually-supported-by-science_n_13160.htm

[Jill F]

So, by their logic, transguys should compete against women? 

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

[930310]

So, by their logic, transguys should compete against women? 

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Sums it up quite nicely actually.

[Jill F]

OK, transguys- any volunteers here to make them put it in their pipe and smoke it?

[Michelle-G]

. . . CrossFit contends that:

     ". . . Thus, you're [sic] statement is categorically, empirically, false. ... The fundamental, ineluctable fact is that a male competitor who has a sex reassignment procedure still has a genetic makeup that confers a physical and physiological advantage over women.

They upped their own BS factor when they said "empirically", which has to do with scientifically proven data. The empirical data shows that hormonal changes in an MTF trans person will, in short order, confer the same body strength as a genetic woman - even more so after GRS.  Also, there is no reason, empirical or otherwise, to believe that chromosomes have anything to do with physical strength.

Sounds like a conservative wingnut trying get all "sciency".

[vi]

They upped their own BS factor when they said "empirically", which has to do with scientifically proven data. The empirical data shows that hormonal changes in an MTF trans person will, in short order, confer the same body strength as a genetic woman - even more so after GRS.  Also, there is no reason, empirical or otherwise, to believe that chromosomes have anything to do with physical strength.

Sounds like a conservative wingnut trying get all "sciency".

Yup. Invoking not experiments and intellectual rigor, but legitimacy by associating their BS with science.