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Did we have a choice?

Started by Satinjoy, March 26, 2014, 07:19:24 PM

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SorchaC

People have already said here that they could either live or die and for most with a sound mind that is an obvious one. For me the choice was taken away by my wife. We'd lived with the knowledge I am Gender Dysphoric for 5 years since I paid for an assessment and had what I'd always known confirmed. Once a 2nd Psychiatrist had said the same in March 2007 she decided it was all too much for her to carry on knowing one day in our future I was going to have to do this and so she told me to go and do it while I was young enough to survive the op and still have some kind of life. My own moods and depression over it all had got too much for her. I worked away allot and I guess all she saw was me being moody and not the good days as they mostly happened while away on tour when I had access to my clothes and a chance to be me. You could say this didn't mean I had to transition right there and then and I honestly wasn't going to for probably 9 months as I wanted a full Summer when I could earn about 1000 UK Pounds a week to get myself financially right for it but again the wife intervened 3 weeks later by meeting a man and wanting her 2 sons and our daughter to meet him so she told our daughter I'd left them but wouldn't say why. 4 months later she wanted to spend time with her man who lived 500 miles away so I agreed to quit my job early and look after our daughter who at the time was 6 for the 6 week School Holidays but again she scuppered the plans by running off with our daughter the week before I was due to have her supposedly because she couldn't be without her but as the first letter I openned when I got home was from the bank informing me they were applying for a possession order for the house maybe she lied then too  :-\ I was granted a 3 night stay with our daughter in a hotel near them when she wanted to know why I left mummy and what I was going to do now so as my wife refused to help me with this one having been advised not to tell her without me I was left to explain all about me really being a woman. I gave her back that day and went full time 3 hours later. I think the reason for such a quick full time was because I wanted some control over my life which seemed to be ruled by a Psychiatrist and the actions of my ex wife and also because now my daughter knew it would be less confusing for her to now see a woman than a man. Because my daughter accepted me fully the ex wife did everything possible to stop me seeing her until one day she succeeded.
Yes not the best story but that's what caused my decision to transition and how it happened. Things got allot worse before they improved but I can honestly say there isn't enough money in the world to tempt to back to living as a man again

Sorcha
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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Dread_Faery

The decision to live as yourself is cast as a false choice by the hetronormative cistem that refuses to recognise other ways of being human and treats being cishet as the "normal" default. If it wasn't for the fact that we get programmed to view anything that isn't cishet as broken, or deviant or abnormal, how many of us would have reached the point where we had to transition or die?

There is no choice there just is.
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LizMarie

I'll just agree with Jessica and go one further - my question back at you, Satinjoy. What will you do if/when you hit the wall internally and the choice becomes taking your own life or transitioning?

You better think about that now because if you wait til then you may make the wrong choice, and become part of the 41% of trans people who attempt suicide.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
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FrancisAnn

Any talk about suicide is so wrong. If alive you can help someone else & or help your self. No matter what the stress nothing is worth considering this option. NOTHING. Everyone on the planet has problems not just us transgendered people. Be strong & just do the best you can but enjoy life.
mtF, mid 50's, always a girl since childhood, HRT (Spiro, E & Fin.) since 8-13. Hormone levels are t at 12 & estrogen at 186. Face lift & eye lid surgery in 2014. Abdominoplasty/tummy tuck & some facial surgery May, 2015. Life is good for me. Love long nails & handsome men! Hopeful for my GRS & a nice normal depth vagina maybe by late summer. 5' 8", 180 pounds, 14 dress size, size 9.5 shoes. I'm kind of an elegant woman & like everything pink, nice & neet. Love my nails & classic Revlon Red. Moving back to Florida, so excited but so much work moving
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Dread_Faery

You talk like suicide is a rational choice
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Allyda

Quote from: Dread_Faery on September 13, 2014, 06:58:27 AM
You talk like suicide is a rational choice
While I agree that hearing a friend talk about suicide can be distressing, as someone who's been at the brink, twice, and nearly a third time, who can safely say if it weren't for the quick thinking of others I wouldn't be here writing this, that it's a loss of all hope that can drive one to consider a final desperate solution. It's easy to say talk of suicide is wrong, but maybe just maybe, if I'd had talked about how I was feeling at those times with even just one friend, I may have gotten the help I needed before diving off of that cliff, or before pulling the trigger. Feeling I couldn't talk about it, and thinking I had no one to talk to about it almost cost me everything, twice. Thankfully at least for now those feelings are far behind.

Therefore I sincerely urge anyone who is even thinking about suicide to talk to someone, anyone, even if you feel no one will listen or can understand talk to someone anyway please. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache and terrible memories, but most important you might just save your life.

Sorry for the rant. But I've been there and if I can save even just one person from living with those memories I feel it well worth it.

Peace everyone.
Ally :icon_flower:
Allyda
Full Time August 2009
HRT Dec 27 2013
VFS [ ? ]
FFS [ ? ]
SRS Spring 2015



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Dread_Faery

I've been swallowed by the void on numerous occasions and have only been called back through chance and luck. I've also been the one keeping someone from being swallowed by it... It's not rational, you can't ask for help because you're trapped in the darkness without hope or light, or... Anything. The fact it gets framed as being a choice, or selfish actually makes it harder to ask for help, it wasn't an accident that the person who pulled me back from the void the last time is someone I'd previously made a suicide pact with, I knew she'd understand me and wouldn't judge. If she hadn't have been there I would have died 2 years ago.

Suicide is a terrible thing, not because of the hurt suffered by those who remain, but because a person full of life and possibility has been reduced to such a state of emptiness that death is the only way out.
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EchelonHunt

I had struggled with my gender identity since puberty, I had begged my family doctor for help me remove the female breasts and genitals, only to be told that no surgeon would perform on me because I am young and one day, I might turn around and say I want children. Having previously endured reoccurring nightmares of giving birth to children after being subjected to rape, this was the worst slap in the face.

I felt alone. So alone. I saw no future of me as a woman, only an empty shell of who I am, floating through the motions of life until Death knocks on my door.

You know you've hit rock bottom when you plan to commit suicide on your 18th birthday. Thankfully, being an avid Poke'mon fan, it was the 20th Poke'mon anniversary and I was having too much fun to worry about killing myself. Shortly after that, I hit rock bottom again. I tried soul-searching, looking deep within myself to find an answer - anything!

Something within told me, "If being a girl makes you so miserable, why not try being a boy?" I typed transsexual into Google (not really knowing what it meant either!) and one of the first pages came up was a website that was pink, filled with animated talking graphics and different pages documenting experiences of both MtF, FtM and other identities. I found a Chatroom and spoke to someone about my experiences. I was sobbing, in tears, I was so alone and scared with this new-found thought circling my head. The person quickly took me to a private tab and talked to me, reassured me and eventually, later on, the other members of the chat helped convince me to come out to my family so they could help me.

That website and that little chatroom belonged to Susan's Playground...  (I think it has since changed to Susan's Place)

Thank you, Susan's Place, you had helped me out of that very dark spot back then and even today, you continue to help, encourage and support me.
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ssneha23

I made up mind to transition at the sharp end of a knife. It was transition or slitting my wrists...
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Handy

Quote from: stephaniec on March 26, 2014, 07:30:06 PM
life or death

^^^This^^^. From my earliest memories I fought these feelings, but ultimately it always catches up with you.

There was definitely no choice in the matter. I finally leveled with those around me and made it clear I had to do this or I would kill myself (and that was completely honest). Now I'm happier than I've ever been in my life, I'm actually a happy, functional, productive member of society (whereas before I was a college-flunk-out, suicidal, depressed jobless loser) and things still only look up. The only thing that could bring me that low again would be if I somehow were forced to stop or detransition.
On HRT 2 years - Full time 1/7/14
EE-Comp Engineering Student and Cartoon Lover
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Abby Claire

At the end of the day we all choose whether we transition or not, but nobody chooses to be transsexual. No one chooses to be a possible societal outcast. The choice isn't whether we stay our birth gender or transition, our real choice is whether we continue living in a state of depression and possible suicidal tendancies or do what we must to finally be happy and content with life. Transition is for most of us (myself included) the last option that we tried too long to ignore.
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marikvulpina

Quote from: Satinjoy on March 26, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
One of the things that eats at me is whether I could have chosen not to transition and kept sane.

    I'm sure I couldn't have counted as sane before transition. I had anxiety so bad that i routinely vomited trying to work up the nerve to talk to someone(say to try to get a job or when I was in school) and the last job I had only lasted 5 months before repeated panic attacks drove me to quit and basically just hide out in my room for a couple of weeks.

    There are of course still body image issues and dysphoria since I'm not even on HRT yet, but presenting properly erased 90% of my anxiety issues - I can actually interact with people face-to-face without having a panic attack afterwards. at my first meeting of a support group, I was comfortable speaking up and offering information, and even have casual conversation afterwards and I still felt fine. this would have been unthinkable in boy mode.

So I think I can safely say it was never a choice. It was a road I had to start on in order to properly live any kind of live worth living.
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Kaylee Angelia

I just want to send a big THANK YOU to everyone who responded. All of your responses and the experiences you shared helped me immensely.

Suicide is no longer an option for me so my choices are transition or live a horribly miserable life. Even the thought of not transitioning is heart breaking for me.

Next week my therapist and I are going to dedicate the session to me starting HRT on my birthday which is in a couple of weeks. I'm really looking forward to doing that especially after reading so many responses about how life changing it is.
"Discovering I'm Trans has been the greatest discovery of my life. Giving myself the gift of transitioning is the greatest gift I've ever given myself." - Kaylee Angelia Van De Feniks


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SorchaC

Quote from: Angelia_Michelle on September 19, 2014, 12:01:05 PM
I just want to send a big THANK YOU to everyone who responded. All of your responses and the experiences you shared helped me immensely.

Suicide is no longer an option for me so my choices are transition or live a horribly miserable life. Even the thought of not transitioning is heart breaking for me.

Next week my therapist and I are going to dedicate the session to me starting HRT on my birthday which is in a couple of weeks. I'm really looking forward to doing that especially after reading so many responses about how life changing it is.

Good luck and I hope it all goes well. I'm sure it will

Hugs

Sorcha  ;D
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
GRC, (Gender Changed on Birth Certificate) December 2009,  :eusa_clap:
SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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