STP/Bathroom question

[Sarah Louise]

The guy next to you is probably not checking you out.  Its not common practice to watch someone else pee.  If someone is watching you, its probably to see how big you are.

Don't worry about it.

[mac1]

The guy next to you is probably not checking you out.  Its not common practice to watch someone else pee.  If someone is watching you, its probably to see how big you are.

Don't worry about it.

Don't be so sure about that.

[Colleen♡Callie]

Don't be so sure about that.

I am sure about that.  And I can cite 30 years of using the male restrooms and urinals as reference.

[mac1]

I am sure about that.  And I can cite 30 years of using the male restrooms and urinals as reference.

I always looked straight ahead. However, some guys looked at the guy next to them. Dividers between the urinals were non existant and trough urinals were rather common. Some places even had a large circular urinal in the middle of the room where men stood all around it. For some reason there has always been the belief that men do not need the same degree of privacy as women.

[Colleen♡Callie]

Some do, but it's rather rare.

[G]

Ok back to your question:

The guy standing next to you will think that you are playing with your penis and not just holding it to pee. He might even razz you for doing it.

Highly doubt that. Not everyone holds their junk 100% the same way. And if he's looking that closely then he's the one with the problem.

[Sir Real]

It sounds like for the most part it would be fine and if, perchance, someone did say something about it, I could easily enough make a retort back about them checking me out.  This is really reassuring because yeah, I was a bit worried XD I mean, spend all that money for it to not be useful would be... upsetting haha. I appreciate all the feedback everyone. 

[aleon515]

The guy next to you is probably not checking you out.  Its not common practice to watch someone else pee.  If someone is watching you, its probably to see how big you are.

Don't worry about it.

I started going to the men's room before I even passed reliably. I have (almost) never been even spoken to or had anyone glance at me. I don't know as I go into a stall, but men kind of look ahead and don't speak to each other. There might be exceptions here and there. I don't know if someone is going to look at your junk so well to notice if you are holding it funny or something like that. I know people using STPs at urinals not having issues. I would get used to handling it and doing all the stuff beforehand, handling clothes included, so you get a little efficient at it.
Otherwise you can use a stall and STP. But I doubt someone would notice you were handling it differently. Gay bars might be a bit of an exception, since some of the fears of looking at each other have to be with guys worrying that about homosexuality.

--Jay

[mm]

I agree  completely with Jay.  Guys are there to do their business and don't really look or say anything, as Jay said gay bars could be different.  I have been in all kinds of restrooms in the last year, some alone and some with many guys.  I still use a stall all the time; no one has ever looked or said anything to me about what I am doing.

[aleon515]

Actually heard MANY more guys have trouble who went to the women's room, either due to not passing reliably or lack of confidence. Women definitely "police" the women's room and I know many guys who were even policed while they were butch.

--Jay

[mac1]

I have seen openly cis women use the men's restroom when men were in the room without incident. Why should it be any different for men in the women's room?

Why can't we all just respect each other and have only one public restroom; a multi user joint facility with adequate privacy for the stalls? It would solve a lot of problems without compromising anybody's safety.

[mm]

mac1, guys would except the idea of one public restroom for everyone, but I can never see the majority of women excepting the idea.

[mac1]

mac1, guys would except accept the idea of one public restroom for everyone, but I can never see the majority of women excepting accepting the idea.

Give me a good reason why you could not accept it.

[Kyler]

Um, because women have been taught to fear men since a very young age? With good reason too... Boys are taught that they get off with behavior because boys will be boys. That doesn't change when they become men.
Also, men piss all over seats and the floor all the time. Why would a woman want to deal with that if she could go to a women's room?

[Heather]

Um, because women have been taught to fear men since a very young age? With good reason too... Boys are taught that they get off with behavior because boys will be boys. That doesn't change when they become men.
Also, men piss all over seats and the floor all the time. Why would a woman want to deal with that if she could go to a women's room?

I agree there is no way I would want to be in a bathroom with a man I don't really like being in a room with men by myself with men I don't know much less use the bathroom with one. And considering I just read a story this morning about a man being arrested for trying to look at women in dressing rooms there is just no way I would want that fear using the restroom.   

[aleon515]

There are places where there are unisex multistall bathrooms. I have heard of this even in liberal US cities (like San Francisco), not very common though.

--Jay

[Maleth]

Like many others have said before (including myself), I don't think you've got much to worry about. If you don't feel confident in using public urinals, I suggest practicing in stalls and gaining confidence there. Good luck!

P.S. I think multi-stalled restrooms are very uncommon, and I haven't seen one like so either..

[aleon515]

Women taught to fear men? I think that's a little too strong. Interesting story at work regarding toilets. I'm not going to lie, the men's bathroom is not exactly pristine, but the office has had numerous female staff meetings regarding the state of the women's toilets. Some of the stories are revolting.

Well there exactly are men who attack women in the women's room, but there have never been any cases (anyone can point to anyway-- it's interesting if you ask this specifically) of men dressing up as women to attack women. Oh yes women's rooms can be gross, otoh, men do put up with a bit more as they don't need to (usually) sit. That's why you see men's rooms in bad repair a lot more--latches and doors off and things like that.

--Jay

[mac1]

Well there exactly are men who attack women in the women's room, but there have never been any cases (anyone can point to anyway-- it's interesting if you ask this specifically) of men dressing up as women to attack women. ..................

--Jay

Those attacks (and perverted behaviors) would be less likely to happen if more people were present in the restroom. The presence of husbands, boy friends, and other respectable men would result in greater safety for women, children and small men. That is one reason for having multi-user unsex restrooms.

[szikha]

... Ok so this means my hand is slightly in my pants (unbuttoned) while I use my pinky and ring finger to make the seal.  Would this be super awkward in a public bathroom urinal do you think?

No, not at all. Most guys pull there balls out whie peeing and tickles there balls during peeing.

Do not focus to much about it. I also hear a lot from transmen that it is unusual for cis guys to unzip there pants while peeing. NO and just NO . Most guys open there button and put the zipper a bit down and take there penis out and pee. I know a lot of guys just put there ball out. It is a personal thing.

So no not awkward at all.