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Are you excessively bubbly in your fem expression or the calm passive girl type?

Started by Evelyn K, April 06, 2014, 06:21:22 PM

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Evelyn K

^^^ I don't agree. If you want to live 'publicly' then you deal with any opinions you may get. She wears her ego and self righteousness on her sleeve - "Gigi Gorgeous". However, she is far from perfect.
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Evelyn K

Quote from: learningtolive on April 07, 2014, 07:03:23 AM

Don't be swayed by the people who see us all as Jerry Springer characters or Rupaul juniors.  Sure, it's annoying that we get typecasted, but then don't those people have the right to be themselves too?

A lot of that behavior is pegged onward by people within our own community. "Oh you gorgeous girl! Show them!"

Sound familiar?
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Northern Jane

I wouldn't dream of commenting on someone else's behaviour unless I was face to face with them and their behaviour was inappropriate for the circumstances.

Personally, before transition I was VERY reserved and extremely conservative but AFTER transition I was gregarious, outgoing, life-of-the-party, mischievous, kooky, flirtatious,  and totally opposite from before. Even decades later, when I should have been more middle-of-the-road I was known for starting giggle-fits among my girl friends. I wouldn't say I am "excessively bubbly" but certainly witty and quite uninhibited! I LIKE who I became!  ;)
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Madison (kiara jamie)



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ath

I would say that so far I've become less aggressive for sure, and more talkative and friendly. I've pretty much got the same personality as before, though. I'm strong willed, yet calm. I almost never outwardly show anger now, even when dealing with irate meth and crack heads many times a day.
"When I think of all the worries people seem to find
And how they're in a hurry to complicate their mind
By chasing after money and dreams that can't come true
I'm glad that we are different, we've better things to do
May others plan their future, I'm busy lovin' you "
-The Grass Roots
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: learningtolive on April 07, 2014, 07:03:23 AM
Okay, I feel the need to chime in.

When we transition, the whole purpose is to be true to ourselves and to be happy without caring what other people think.  At least, that's what I thought the goal is and that's what I'm striving for day after day.  When I look at someone like Gigi, I may not see myself staring back at me, but I can't help but say "good for her".  She is true to herself, liberated and free.  She doesn't seem to let anyone else hold her back or mold her into something she isn't.  Perhaps she's very animated and over the top, but that's her style and we all have our own unique personalities.  Even if I recognize all of her differences, I'm inspired at how liberated she is.  Look, none of us are the same.  We all differ in some way.  Recognizing that uniqueness and appreciating it helps us in the long run.  Don't be swayed by the people who see us all as Jerry Springer characters or Rupaul juniors.  Sure, it's annoying that we get typecasted, but then don't those people have the right to be themselves too?  We can't blame people like Gigi for societal sterotypes, she is representing herself and not our community, which I think is true for all of us.  If we were, we would be putting on a whole new set of societal expectations which I don't think is fair.

Right on!

Honestly, I think the whole Springer crap is lame and I have never even watched any of the Rupaul shows. I just do what feels good to me. I'm pretty friggin boring too, so I could never be accused of being a spectacle. If other people want to do that, more power to 'em, but that isn't my style.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Evelyn K on April 07, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
A lot of that behavior is pegged onward by people within our own community. "Oh you gorgeous girl! Show them!"

Sound familiar?

But consider this, many of us hate how gender roles and societal expectations impact us negatively.  It forces us to live in a box that may or may not fit us.  For those of us who are trans, those boxes usually didn't suit us or at least we were given the wrong one.  We want to be free to be ourselves and not have those standards trap us in for the rest of our lives.  However, when we critique others for not adopting our own standards that come from within the general trans community, don't we do the same thing to many people who can't fit into a different set of boxes?  I hate admiting this, but I used to be really bigoted against cross dressers and drag queens.  In fact, I would blame them for why society thought so negatively of me and did everything to distinguish myself from then. Quite frankly, I thought they were weirdos who gave people like me a bad name. But after facing my prejeduice and realizing it exists, what right do I have to put my standards on anyone else?  Okay, maybe it sucks that people may misunderstand who I am and lump me into a group that is so seperated from who I am, but is that really the fault of the drag queens?  Did they really do anything wrong to anyone or were they just living the way they want to live?   At the end of the day, all of us are different, unique and weird in our own way.  Not all of us are going to mesh or represent others well, but that's not always a bad thing. 

By the way, there is nothing wrong with not enjoying Gigi or finding her annoyinhg.  If her style doesn't vibe with you, hell that's just a matter of personal preference which you are entitled to.  In fact, I don't think I could watch many of her videos for too long as it gets way too much for me. I just don't think she should be seen as a representative of anything but herself and we should all keep in mind that diversity doesn't always have to be a problem.
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Just Shelly

The only reason for my rude comment was because of the feeling I get from many on here if I disagree with anything that they feel is right to them. Currently there is a top forty song making fun a many of the cis girls that talk and act just like the one girl....omg that is so wrong, the song should be banned!! Well then why is the song so popular, the reason being is because most cis girls don't act or talk like that all the time....yes at times they do....and I'm sure there are a few that do more often.

The thing is I have the right to disagree or even dislike anything or anyone I like, this doesn't mean I treat people this way. I think some over weight people can be rather disgusting.....not because of how they look but how they act and how lazy they are, but if someone obese was in need of help or guidance I do not ignore them based on there appearance. In fact I admire so many obese people that have lost weight, I think some of them are the strongest people ever. Who isn't addicted to food...I know I am!

When it comes to many of the trans on you tube I have a hard time relating with many, one reason is because of how they flaunt there transness. This is not a life style for me, it is my life!! I don't see how telling everyone how my breasts have grown, and the other affects of hrt is anyone's business but my own or maybe people in a support group such as this.

Stereotyping has and will continue to happen, and if you tube stays popular it will only get worse. For the transgender person it is even more apparent. Years ago if a women was divorced she was known as a divorcee and stereotyped the same as some divorced women that lived their life a bit trashy, some of these women were also known as welfare mothers. This still goes on today because of the few that are like that. My mother was stereotyped as a XXX rated divorcee and welfare mother, I wonder how she would of felt watching some of the real divorcee XXX rated mothers on you tube. She never received a penny of child support and worked as a waitress most of her life, yes we were on welfare, but once I could work at 14 I helped to eventually get us off. And she surely wasn't XXX rated, but that's not what people thought.

No I don't like to be associated with the many on you tube or even in real life....do I dislike them? No I just hate the fact that if I explain to someone that I am transgendered they no longer think of someone on Jerry Springer, than goodness!! But now they can Google, and what appears is the 1000's of trans on you tube....which one will they find?? Yes there are many on there I could admire and a few that have helped me through my transition, but there are far more that have made me appear as some joke!! and I am not some joke I am a human being. A woman, a mother!!
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Ev

I myself have always been the one with the collected, cold, dry, dark, sarcastic and somewhat cynical attitude, but I do have a dom-type personality.  As a "guy" I was compared to fictional characters like Snape from Harry Potter, and as a "fem" I have been compared now to a Wednesday Addams or Mandy from Billy and Mandy.  I don't mean to come across as some cartoon/TV character but it is what people say of me/the impression I give them.  I seem quite passive on the surface but that is misleading, as I am the "whips and chains" kind of person when you get me one-on-one.  I am also self-employed because I do not like being bossed around.  Just because I am "soft-spoken" doesn't mean I am soft.  I can follow when it is time but I can also lead...see: role-filler.

Also: quite frankly, I find all forms of over-compensating to be demeaning and contributing to/fueling "negative" stereotypes.  If someone walks up to me with hands flapping explaining to me that I look "FAAAAAAABULOUS!" or says "you go girl!" I don't care where you are on the sexual/gender spectrum I swear I'll...I'll...I'll...well...I'll give you the evil eye, at least.  Pop culture, for the most part, I find to be repugnant and insulting...I don't care if it is mainstream or LGBTQ pop culture, I don't want any of it.  A lot of our expression is influenced by pop culture, and the more "poppish" someone expresses the more I see them as possessing a diluted/copied personality.  Funny thing is when you get most of these people behind closed doors/one on one, their natural expressions come out and it is by far more refreshing and honest than how they present themselves in front of groups.

When it comes to me, what you see is what you get.
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Ev on April 07, 2014, 11:31:04 PM
I myself have always been the one with the collected, cold, dry, dark, sarcastic and somewhat cynical attitude, but I do have a dom-type personality.  As a "guy" I was compared to fictional characters like Snape from Harry Potter, and as a "fem" I have been compared now to a Wednesday Addams or Mandy from Billy and Mandy.  I don't mean to come across as some cartoon/TV character but it is what people say of me/the impression I give them.  I seem quite passive on the surface but that is misleading, as I am the "whips and chains" kind of person when you get me one-on-one.  I am also self-employed because I do not like being bossed around.  Just because I am "soft-spoken" doesn't mean I am soft.  I can follow when it is time but I can also lead...see: role-filler.

Also: quite frankly, I find all forms of over-compensating to be demeaning and contributing to/fueling "negative" stereotypes.  If someone walks up to me with hands flapping explaining to me that I look "FAAAAAAABULOUS!" or says "you go girl!" I don't care where you are on the sexual/gender spectrum I swear I'll...I'll...I'll...well...I'll give you the evil eye, at least.  Pop culture, for the most part, I find to be repugnant and insulting...I don't care if it is meainstream or LGBTQ pop culture, I don't want any of it.  A lot of our expression is influenced by pop culture, and the more "poppish" someone expresses the more I see them as possessing a diluted/copied personality.  Funny thing is when you get most of these people behind closed doors/one on one, their natural expressions come out and it is by far more refreshing and honest than how they present themselves in front of groups.

When it comes to me, what you see is what you get.

You go, girl!

:D

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Kara Jayde

I'm just starting to let my feminine side through, after years of repression, and although I don't see myself having a valley girl personality (like that first girl) I do think my personality is already changing, as I'm just okay with being myself, even if that means being feminine. I don't think there is a set of personality traits that all women have, everyone is unique, but I relate most to the smoking girl personally. I am somewhat animated, and I'm a passionate speaker, but I don't speed through what I say >_< I don't think you should 'practice' or 'put on' feminine behaviour, just be yourself. If you're a woman inside, then it'll naturally seep out in yoru personality ^_^


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Jill F

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Evelyn K

Quote from: sandrauk on April 07, 2014, 04:20:11 AM
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Oh I just Oh My God'ed her because she was model quality gorgeous.

Here's another mind bender...

Yes she's Trans

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V M

I think we all have multifaceted personalities that can vary depending on our various moods   



The first vid. made me think of Frank Zappa





The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Jennygirl

Quote from: V M on April 08, 2014, 02:18:21 AM
I think we all have multifaceted personalities that can vary depending on our various moods   

I agree.

And also I could watch Princess Joules for hours. Love her.
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Christine Eryn

Well, there were sure a lot of eye opening videos posted.  :)  Even though I've surpressed my bubbly side for so many years and had to wear that "alpha male force field", I can still turn on the bubbles whenever I want. That surprises me.
"There was a sculptor, and he found this stone, a special stone. He dragged it home and he worked on it for months, until he finally finished. When he was ready he showed it to his friends and they said he had created a great statue. And the sculptor said he hadn't created anything, the statue was always there, he just cleared away the small peices." Rambo III
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Esther79

Quote from: Evelyn K on April 06, 2014, 06:34:48 PM
I kind of like her style better. She seems so much more natural.

Aww such pretty tears at 8:20



I absolutely love Princess Joules, was following her on youtube for quite so time, she is funny. :angel:
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Northern Jane on April 07, 2014, 12:50:10 PM
Personally, before transition I was VERY reserved and extremely conservative but AFTER transition I was gregarious, outgoing, life-of-the-party, mischievous, kooky, flirtatious,  and totally opposite from before. Even decades later, when I should have been more middle-of-the-road I was known for starting giggle-fits among my girl friends. I wouldn't say I am "excessively bubbly" but certainly witty and quite uninhibited! I LIKE who I became!  ;)

^ This is me totally! Same way here. :)
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