Susan's Place Logo

News:

Based on internal web log processing I show 3,417,511 Users made 5,324,115 Visits Accounting for 199,729,420 pageviews and 8.954.49 TB of data transfer for 2017, all on a little over $2,000 per month.

Help support this website by Donating or Subscribing! (Updated)

Main Menu

Seriously considering SRS, who is the best surgeon..?

Started by JessikaBlackMage, May 12, 2014, 12:46:36 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

JessikaBlackMage

So I am a very sexual person , I enjoy sex very much but feel I need a vagina to really feel complete. I feel I am ready to have the surgery, and want to know which surgeon I should go with. I would like to be able to get wet in my vagina when I get aroused (self lubrication). it is also important for me that the appearance of it matches up with that of a genetic female. Having good sensation (being able to orgasm) in and around my vagina is also very important to me. Also I don't want really visible scars from the surgery.
I do not want to have to get genital electrolysis as the thought of that makes me very uncomfortable in more ways than one.

So what are some things I should be aware of as I do my research, which surgeons would you recommend to me..?
  •  

Vicky

Are these your desires or expectations??  I am very happy with my results, but they come no where close  to your demands.  My surgeon has done over 1,000 SRS ops and darn few have been too unhappy.  The surgeons who come closer to meeting your goals have a higher rate of un-happy clients in the long run along with some very happy clients who come close to your demands, but not really right on.  Are these goals you have discussed with your therapist?  How does the therapist feel, and do you have feedback on whether your goals are realistic.  If you have any SRS, it will be some time before you know the final outcome since swelling and suture absorption are going to be lasting up to a year or longer.  All of the doctors have that up front.  I was a Bowers patient, and I self lubricate to a reasonable degree, my scaring is minimal and my OB/GYN thinks I look as good or better than most women my age.  I am betting other posties who answer this will say largely the same about their surgeons if they are happy.   
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
  •  

JessikaBlackMage

well it does not have to look exactly like that of a genetic girl, it just needs to come close in terms of appearance. scarring or the lack of is very important as long as the scar is not super obvious that is good. I don't think what I am seeking is that unreasonable. I am only 23 so my bodies ability to recover should be better than someone who is a lot older.

QuoteThe surgeons who come closer to meeting your goals have a higher rate of un-happy clients in the long run along with some very happy clients who come close to your demands, but not really right on

this statement confuses me. 

I know it will take a while to heal I am aware of that. Are there different techniques out there..? that give different results..?
  •  

Jenna Marie

Full disclosure : I used Brassard, so I am only deeply familiar with his work.

I self-lubricate somewhat, I am similar enough to cis in appearance that several ER docs and one gynecologist couldn't tell, he recommends against genital hair removal, and I am fully orgasmic (first time, in my sleep, was 3 weeks after surgery).

However, I have 5.5" of depth, which I think is plenty but which is on the low end compared to what some Thai surgeons can apparently accomplish.

And my scars would probably still be slightly visible if I shaved off all my pubic hair, though by two years post-op they're very faint and white. Scarring, though, is a factor of what your skin and body do - nobody can guarantee anything there. (I'm a bit shocked they faded this much, actually, as I have small scars from mole removals that are still bright pink and puffy 10 years later.)
  •  

KatelynRain

I hear very good things about Marci Bowers http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/gender.html  ,  both from my gender therapist and others. 
  •  

mrs izzy

I am also a Montreal girl, I agree with Vicky and Jenna, they hold the same outcomes as my GCS

I think your expectations are a little in the dream realm.

Any of the more experienced surgeons will do the best they can do with what they have to work with. It is a cut and stitched surgery where complications do happen. If you hold to high of a expectation no matter who you choice you are going to be disappointed.

Me I wanted GCS surgery and that is what I got, my very own one of a kind vagina.

Isabell
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
  •  

Evelyn K

  •  

JessikaBlackMage

I would imagine that would be possible because it's between the kegel muscles. so I don't see why not..?

what about suporn I have heard good things about him and the scaring looks pretty minimal.
  •  

mrs izzy

Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
  •  

Evelyn K

Does the vagina self cleanse or do you have to douche every day?

Does it have the same pheromones and odor as a cis woman's?
  •  

JessikaBlackMage

I have very feminine wide hips so I will hope my vagina will look nice with those. I just want to be able to take all my clothes off and people not be able to tell I am trans as well as good sensation , and good depth all I need is about 5 to 7 inches, as that would be plenty. I guess there is always scar revision. I think a lot of the thailand surgeons will scrape the follicles. I don't have a problem using a little lube when I wanna have sex.
  •  

mrs izzy

Quote from: Evelyn K on May 12, 2014, 09:48:33 PM
Does the vagina self cleanse or do you have to douche every day?

Does it have the same pheromones and odor as a cis woman's?

I would say what goes in will come back out. No to douche every day,

Yes.

Izzy
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
  •  

mrs izzy

Quote from: JessikaBlackMage on May 12, 2014, 09:57:34 PM
I have very feminine wide hips so I will hope my vagina will look nice with those. I just want to be able to take all my clothes off and people not be able to tell I am trans as well as good sensation , and good depth all I need is about 5 to 7 inches, as that would be plenty. I guess there is always scar revision. I think a lot of the thailand surgeons will scrape the follicles. I don't have a problem using a little lube when I wanna have sex.

Any of the well known surgeons would make it look like a p...y with your cloths off. Now if they get all up in your p... then maybe could get clocked.

Ask questions, ask questions and ask the surgeon what your concerns are. I think its a good 90/10 in today's surgeons acceptance of there work.  Mine was 100% happy with it all.

Izzy
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
  •  

FrancisAnn

Quote from: Evelyn K on May 12, 2014, 09:48:33 PM
Does the vagina self cleanse or do you have to douche every day?

Does it have the same pheromones and odor as a cis woman's?
Enough already, we have all seen this woman put on her lipstick.
mtF, mid 50's, always a girl since childhood, HRT (Spiro, E & Fin.) since 8-13. Hormone levels are t at 12 & estrogen at 186. Face lift & eye lid surgery in 2014. Abdominoplasty/tummy tuck & some facial surgery May, 2015. Life is good for me. Love long nails & handsome men! Hopeful for my GRS & a nice normal depth vagina maybe by late summer. 5' 8", 180 pounds, 14 dress size, size 9.5 shoes. I'm kind of an elegant woman & like everything pink, nice & neet. Love my nails & classic Revlon Red. Moving back to Florida, so excited but so much work moving
  •  

JessikaBlackMage

Quote from: FrancisAnn on May 12, 2014, 11:19:03 PM
Enough already, we have all seen this woman put on her lipstick.
I don't follow , what lipstick..?
I am trying to develop a very accurate picture of what to expect from this surgery and there are no stupid questions. I thought that question was a very interesting one.
  •  

Cindy

  •  

Jenna Marie

Brassard recommends against douching after the initial two months of healing are up, for the same reason it's inadvisable for a cis woman (it will get the vaginal flora out of whack). As far as I can determine, scent and internal texture are consistent with a cis woman's as well.

Reposted because I'm too lazy to type this up over and over :

In fact, I had essentially full sensation - clitoral, labial, and internal vaginal - from the moment I woke up from surgery. This was a downside during the initial days, as you can imagine, although the pain wasn't all that bad.

Yes, I am easily orgasmic. It took a bit of effort to relearn my body, but my first orgasm was 3 weeks post-op in a dream, so clearly the nerves all worked fine and it was my brain getting in the way!

Not sure about prostate sensation. I didn't ever experiment with prostate stimulation pre-op, so I wouldn't necessarily recognize it post-op. I do have an area of highly erogenous sensation in roughly the equivalent spot to the "G-spot," which I have been told is likely the prostate.

I am fully sensate inside my vagina. Again, not orgasmic from vaginal stimulation alone, but it's NICE.

Never any numbness, either.

In fact, the pain was less and ended faster than I'd expected. It was still probably 3-4 months before I wasn't a *little* sore after a long day, but less than a month before I was almost 100% pain-free.

Yes, I have labia majora which are aesthetically correct and properly located. Mine are pretty puffy, but I also had tremendous, ridiculous swelling right after (even the nurses were shocked), so I'm not convinced it's all gone away YET.

Ditto the labia minora. They're fairly small, but that's not atypical.

Yes, I have both a fully (extremely!) sensitive clitoris and hood. Incidentally, both the clitoral hood and labia minora have the inner portion lined with leftover urethra, which is mucosal tissue that is light pink and moist just as in cis women, a detail I appreciate.

Yes, my urethra is correctly positioned and functional. It's just barely distinguishable from the vaginal opening (ie, directly above), which matches what I see in my wife and on anatomical diagrams. There were some issues with spraying early on because of the severe swelling, but everything works fine now.

My vaginal opening is also correctly placed and looks normal.


I did not do hair removal, and have had no hair regrowth except in areas where I would expect it (pubis, outside of the labia majora).


5" of depth as far as I can determine. I'm content with that. I started with 5.5" but that half inch may have been swelling for all I know.

No serious complications aside from one stitch that pulled out early but healed cleanly. I did have a reccurring soreness and a need to massage/stretch the scar tissue around 3 months post-op, which I've been told is normal for any surgery (not just GRS).

I did have a devil of a time with the catheter, though. Again, bladder spasms are harmless and common, but that was AWFUL. I was so glad to see that go.
   

He offers free revisions for the first year but I was happy. It's quirky/not identical to other vulva I've seen, but hey, that's normal!

As a final note, I also do self-lubricate somewhat, and can "squirt" at orgasm on occasion. (But I have a female partner; my experience with penetrative sex does not involve men, if that matters.) All in all, I'm very satisfied.
  •  

Jennygirl

I know this has been answered probably a million times before, but does circumcision take away any of the features you describe, Jenna?

Thanks :)

I called Brassard's office the other day and she said she was going to email me the documents. I haven't heard back though so I should probably call again!
  •  

mrs izzy

Quote from: Jennygirl on May 13, 2014, 05:58:45 PM
I know this has been answered probably a million times before, but does circumcision take away any of the features you describe, Jenna?

Thanks :)

I called Brassard's office the other day and she said she was going to email me the documents. I haven't heard back though so I should probably call again!

I am not Jenna but I will say no as far as I can say. It is hard to really know with no way to reference.

Izzy
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
  •  

Jennygirl

Quote from: mind is quiet now on May 13, 2014, 06:02:35 PM
I am not Jenna but I will say no as far as I can say. It is hard to really know with no way to reference.

Izzy

Thanks! I guess I was just curious about the clitoral hooding, for some reason I thought that was re-appropriated foreskin?
  •