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does humanity deserve existence?

Started by katia, July 21, 2007, 12:47:46 PM

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katia

the proof of the pudding, they say, is in the eating.  pleistocene horses didn't deserve existence after a while. rats and cockroaches did, and do.  what about us, humans? do we deserve it?

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The Middle Way

I'm assuming that pleistocene horses evolved into a higher form of horse, and deserved that continuation of the lease.
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Kaitlyn

From a completely practical standpoint... if we deserve to live, we'll live.
We're still alive, hence we have earned the right to live. Very straightforward =p.
If we're a failure as a species, then we'll die out one way or another at some point, either by destroying the means by which we sustain ourselves, outright destroying ourselves, or creating/inciting something that destroys ourselves.

From a moralistic standpoint, well... that depends a lot on the values system of the individual doing the judging ~~

For example, is life even a good thing? Some ideologies consider life suffering or punishment. Then the question would be, what ill have we done to be made to live?

I think that unless we do something especially heinous, like wipe out another sentient species in aggression, or destroy most of the biosphere of Earth or another planet, we're pretty much okay to keep on going. =p
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Nero

Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Rachael

humanity must be stamped out like the 'virus' that it is, [/smithmode] <-- please someone get that :P
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Rachael on July 21, 2007, 03:39:16 PM
humanity must be stamped out like the 'virus' that it is, [/smithmode] <-- please someone get that :P

What's [/smithmode]?

I have no judgment to make over humanity or its existence. I have a preference, but it is not right for me to do so.
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Kaitlyn

Quote from: Rachael on July 21, 2007, 03:39:16 PM
humanity must be stamped out like the 'virus' that it is, [/smithmode] <-- please someone get that :P

Agent Smith, from the Matrix

;D
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Pica Pica

I saw that film, lots of spiders I think.

Humanity does not deserve to be alive, but nothing deserves to be alive. It's just bloody lucky.
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The Middle Way

Quote from: Pica Pica on July 22, 2007, 05:25:30 PM
Humanity does not deserve to be alive, but nothing deserves to be alive. It's just bloody lucky.

But if nothing is just that, <the not>, as you so desperately posit, how can it deserve anything at all, much less enough luck to be 'alive'?  ^-^
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Pica Pica

your just playing with the state and the noun....

like, If I Had Three Puppies What Is The Name Of The Mother?
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The Middle Way

Yes it's called a pun or a joke. Like reality.
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Pica Pica

reality seems more of a practical joke
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The Middle Way

My philosophy is that is resembles the pun I made. Which might be a sort of practical joke.

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Kate

Quote from: Katia on July 21, 2007, 12:47:46 PM
what about us, humans? do we deserve it?

Deserve? Well I dunno, I don't think it's a matter of deserve, but more a matter of if our overseers will keep their little ant farm experiment going or not. As long as we keep going like this, wrapped up in our petty wars and emotional dramas, I think we're cool. They love that sorta thing.

God help us though if we ever start to wake up as a race and see the "Hand of God" as it were. Ignorance isn't just bliss, it's also a wall we might be better off keeping in place.

~Kate~
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The Middle Way

I guess we will only possibly see this Hand o God right before it slaps us to wake the F up.
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Rachael

Quote'please someone get that' sounds like the phone is ringing.

Maybe it refers to Dr Smith in Lost In Space.

Quote from: Kaitlyn on July 21, 2007, 05:03:15 PM
Quote from: Rachael on July 21, 2007, 03:39:16 PM
humanity must be stamped out like the 'virus' that it is, [/smithmode] <-- please someone get that :P

Agent Smith, from the Matrix

;D
thank you Kaitlyn  ;)
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tinkerbell

#16
I don't think humans can truly progress further than what we have already accomplished without destroying ourselves in the process.  We will become extinct by our own hand, and when that happens, we will have deserved it.

tink :icon_chick:
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Tink on July 22, 2007, 06:57:13 PM
I don't think humans can truly progress further than what we have already accomplished without destroying ourselves in the process.  We will become extinct by our own hand, and when that happens, we will have deserved it.

tink :icon_chick:


Not me.
I ain't never kilt a man what didn't deserve it.
I ain't never plundered or raped.
I ain't never peed in the punch bowl.

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Rachael

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RebeccaFog

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