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Started by lemon_ice, May 21, 2014, 09:46:20 PM

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lemon_ice

I'm just curious if this changes for any of you during HRT, I don't mean in function or level of desire which are pretty much a factor of androgen activity as far as I know, but on changes in what gender (if any) you find yourself more attracted to..

As for me, I'm not really attracted to either right now, I love females in a friendly way but definitely not sexually, with males I know many I respect and like etc., but not in any sexual way either, the idea of 'homosexual sex' does not appeal to me at all! So right now I'm pretty much asexual in most regards, but I know I'd love some kind of intimacy with someone, I'm just not sure who lol.. I'm wondering if HRT might change things, maybe through helping to sort out my sexual role issues, I'm not sure. I really interested to hear about anyone else's experiences here..

Thanks :)
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ath

This has been an interesting area in which I have changed.

Pre-HRT - I felt like I was 99.975% attracted to girls, and .025% attracted to men - back then juuuusstttt the riiiighhhttt guy would be attractive to me.

Now?

At first, I strongly resisted it, but around the 2 month mark on HRT I started realizing I had an involuntary attraction to certain guys.

I've still got my attraction to girls, but now I've got this attraction to guys that I can't ignore because it just happens without me doing anything. If anything I was wanting to -not- be attracted to guys! Now it's almost like I see at least one guy every day I find attractive. Only recently has this begun, with me being like 6 days from my 3 month mark on hormones. I saw a guy walking on the sidewalk as I was stopped at a red light in my car, today. I was thinking -that- type of thoughts about him, if you get what I mean - and it just blows my mind.

Never in a thousand years did I think I would develop an un-ignorable attraction to guys, like the attraction I have/had for girls. But now it's there, not there by will AT ALL, because I was resisting it big time, but it is there, and I can't ignore it. I've sort of had to cope with my newfound attraction to guys, but I'm coping with it and I'm OK with it. I can totally see myself falling for the right guy. It's so weird because it feels so good and I love it, but I can't explain it, because it's different from my attraction to girls, yet it gives me the same feeling as when I'm really attracted to a girl. It's just so weird to me - but I've grown to be OK with it.

I can now for the first time see myself being with either a girl or a guy. It's super weird but it's not unheard of or uncommon. It's just weird. I didn't expect it to happen like this, but it has. Now I find certain guys attractive - it's still similar to my previous tastes in men, but my range and general level of attraction has changed a lot.
"When I think of all the worries people seem to find
And how they're in a hurry to complicate their mind
By chasing after money and dreams that can't come true
I'm glad that we are different, we've better things to do
May others plan their future, I'm busy lovin' you "
-The Grass Roots
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Rayne

I understand the concern. I'm an asexual panromantic. So...I'm concerned of somehow gaining a sexuality that I don't have now. I'm actually a little scared of somehow becoming sexual. Some are confused by that...but when you'be never had sexual attraction to anyone ever for your entire life... that's a big change. By teh same token, I have a BF. So If I ever do HRT, or can do it, he wouldn't mind if I grew an attraction to guys ^~^ But honestly, the idea scares me a little.
Using a stupid, definately not smart, phone, so please forgive any typos or grammar errors.
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Jill F

I know I'm probably sounding like a broken record by now, but If you're trans you're already beyond queer anyway.  You like who you like.  It's really no big deal.  Just be happy and let it flow.
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Lady_Oracle

I identify as a lesbian but hrt has definitely made me more attracted to guys at least physically. The emotional attraction to them just doesn't seem to be there though.

What I find fascinating though is how much my attraction for women increased. So basically my attraction for women is like 200% while my attraction for guys is about 20% if that makes sense lol
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lemon_ice

Wow, very interesting Ath... Especially as you were so far one way, and only 3 months! It never seems to amaze me how hormone dependent most many parts of the mind are, and wonder about the others that are less typically associated with change due to HRT. As someone who loves science and has always attempted to understand and reduce the influence of the anthropomorphic filter through which I observe all that is around me, transition will be very interesting and maybe help provide some parallax to my observations :)
I wish you well on your journey and I hope the changes to your sexuality don't trouble you too much :P  How do you feel your attraction 'ratio' is about now? It certainly sounds like its grown by a few orders of magnitude at least lol

As for me, I'm definitely not worried about a change in sexuality, in fact I really hope it does, I'd love to fall for someone eventually. My current position, stuck in the middle, does not satisfy my human 'need'* for at least some intimacy. I personally think it will fall towards being straight (as a female obviously lol) as I suspect my current issues towards my lack of attraction to males are mostly down to issues about my birth assigned gender, and very strongly not wishing to be perceived as a male in any relationship with one, which has created an aversion over time. This a hypothesis only, the truth will unfold in good time I'm sure... :)



*may or may not be a basic human need, possibly an artefact of my own individual anthropomorphic filter :P

All these years, all these memories, there was you. You pull me through time.
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lemon_ice

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on May 21, 2014, 11:09:22 PM
I identify as a lesbian but hrt has definitely made me more attracted to guys at least physically. The emotional attraction to them just doesn't seem to be there though.

What I find fascinating though is how much my attraction for women increased. So basically my attraction for women is like 200% while my attraction for guys is about 20% if that makes sense lol

Damn lol.. that's a very good point Lady oracle.. I can't see myself with and emotion attraction to men right now, but who knows once I've been swimming in girl juice for a few years : P 
All these years, all these memories, there was you. You pull me through time.
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TaoRaven

Well, I wasn't really attracted to anything before. Now, I am kinda man-crazy. Problem is, I don't have the right equipment yet. :(
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lemon_ice

Quote from: TaoRaven on May 21, 2014, 11:45:21 PM
Well, I wasn't really attracted to anything before. Now, I am kinda man-crazy. Problem is, I don't have the right equipment yet. :(

Lol, sounds like trouble :P   I hope the wait wont be too long for you.. :)   That's great to hear though, I certainly don't mind if that is also the case with me :) Thanks so much!
All these years, all these memories, there was you. You pull me through time.
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immortal gypsy

Before I could picture myself with a guy BUT only if I was a girl.
Now I see a cute looking guy go down the street and think to myself "If only he has a sister" So deffinatley girl crazy over here.
Being trans that can be the easy part for the rest "Ladies and gentlemen please make sure your seat bealts are done up nice and tight, and keep your arms and legs inside the carriage at all times until it come to a complete stop". Enjoy the ride we all call life
Do not fear those who have nothing left to lose, fear those who are prepared to lose it all

Si vis bellum, parra pacem
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Miyuki

Quote from: ath on May 21, 2014, 10:07:48 PM
This has been an interesting area in which I have changed.

Pre-HRT - I felt like I was 99.975% attracted to girls, and .025% attracted to men - back then juuuusstttt the riiiighhhttt guy would be attractive to me.

Now?

At first, I strongly resisted it, but around the 2 month mark on HRT I started realizing I had an involuntary attraction to certain guys.

I've still got my attraction to girls, but now I've got this attraction to guys that I can't ignore because it just happens without me doing anything. If anything I was wanting to -not- be attracted to guys! Now it's almost like I see at least one guy every day I find attractive. Only recently has this begun, with me being like 6 days from my 3 month mark on hormones. I saw a guy walking on the sidewalk as I was stopped at a red light in my car, today. I was thinking -that- type of thoughts about him, if you get what I mean - and it just blows my mind.

Never in a thousand years did I think I would develop an un-ignorable attraction to guys, like the attraction I have/had for girls. But now it's there, not there by will AT ALL, because I was resisting it big time, but it is there, and I can't ignore it. I've sort of had to cope with my newfound attraction to guys, but I'm coping with it and I'm OK with it. I can totally see myself falling for the right guy. It's so weird because it feels so good and I love it, but I can't explain it, because it's different from my attraction to girls, yet it gives me the same feeling as when I'm really attracted to a girl. It's just so weird to me - but I've grown to be OK with it.

I can now for the first time see myself being with either a girl or a guy. It's super weird but it's not unheard of or uncommon. It's just weird. I didn't expect it to happen like this, but it has. Now I find certain guys attractive - it's still similar to my previous tastes in men, but my range and general level of attraction has changed a lot.

This is almost exactly how I feel. I'm still primarily attracted to girls, but with increasing frequency I've been seeing guys and thinking to myself... I could go for that. It doesn't happen with every guy I see by any stretch of the imagination, but the attraction is definitely there. It seems to happen more often in person than if I was just looking at a picture of an attractive guy or something like that. Maybe pheromones are to blame? I dunno, it's not something I expected at all, but I can't say I really mind it. I'm not really that interested in actually acting on these feelings though, because in general I want to avoid dating or anything like that until I'm further along in my transition. But in a few years when I'm a little bit more comfortable with my level of progress... who knows? I think I would prefer to stick to dating girls to start out with though, because even if I do find myself occasionally attracted to men, the guys out there that are attracted to transgender girls scare the crap out of me, and I have some serious doubts that I will ever be passable enough that normal guys would find me attractive. :(
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Cindy

I'm not sure if HRT changes anything but acceptance and perspective. I could never accept my homosexual desires, but now my heterosexual desires are extremely pleasant and fulfilling.
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Evelyn K

Nearing 3 months here. I had a brief crush on George Clooney a few weeks ago, but that was fleeting. Actually how many straight guys might have questioned their sexuality after looking at him?

But then Evelyn wrinkled her button nose at the thought of being spoken at by a guttural voice, emanating man stench, body hair, dog breath, smelly socks, oil stained finger nails and accompanying controlling chauvinistic attitude.

For the love of Venus - please. ::) Men? No.

Just. NO. Oh gawd. Please stand on the other side of the street! Go awaaaaY!

Or I'll stomp you!!!





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jussmoi4nao

I din't get the George Clooney obsession on here. It's like when closet lesbians say they love Johnny Depp but even fakier lmao. FYI as a young person who's always liked guys, George does nothing for me, but that may be an age thing.

But, yeah, my sexuality hasn't changed. Always been 100% into guys always will be. The only change is functionality tbh.

But heey, what's with all the manhate haha? I have to say, if that's your view of guys you've met up with some real duds. I've met as many gross girls as guys, anybody can be poorly groomed.

The right kinda guy can just...drive you crazy if that's what you go for. The way his skin looks or feel...not in a creepy way lmao. And I love men's fragrances and deoderant.

The worst thing is when you see a hot guy and can't help but stare...then he misinterprets it and asks for your number. That's depressing. Cause you know you have to say no. Ugh. Life sucks sometimes haha
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immortal gypsy

I don't hate men I admire beauty in all its forms. One of my best friends is perfect to curl up with 6 foot 3, loaded with muscle yet surprisingly soft enough to sleep on. Plus he is paitent and flexiable enough to put up with me using him as my own personal pillow, couch ect every time we catch up. But sexually he dose nothing for me, just like girls do nothing for you Abby. We are all different and that is what makes life so fun and exciting

Do not fear those who have nothing left to lose, fear those who are prepared to lose it all

Si vis bellum, parra pacem
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Jill F

Quote from: Abbyxo on May 22, 2014, 05:02:17 AM
I din't get the George Clooney obsession on here. It's like when closet lesbians say they love Johnny Depp but even fakier lmao. FYI as a young person who's always liked guys, George does nothing for me, but that may be an age thing.

But, yeah, my sexuality hasn't changed. Always been 100% into guys always will be. The only change is functionality tbh.

But heey, what's with all the manhate haha? I have to say, if that's your view of guys you've met up with some real duds. I've met as many gross girls as guys, anybody can be poorly groomed.

The right kinda guy can just...drive you crazy if that's what you go for. The way his skin looks or feel...not in a creepy way lmao. And I love men's fragrances and deoderant.

The worst thing is when you see a hot guy and can't help but stare...then he misinterprets it and asks for your number. That's depressing. Cause you know you have to say no. Ugh. Life sucks sometimes haha

When you're 45 and George lives down the street, it's different.  Actually he's much better looking in person.  Just sayin'... 
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ashrock

From personal experience I identified as asexual, a handful of months on hrt hasnt changed that (if anything I more strongly identify as such).  If it did, that doesnt scare me, it would be nice to have that rush that people get from being attracted...  It might change, it may not, either way like it has been said above, just go with it.
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Ginny

So, I'm 28 and up until recently I would describe to someone that I had the sexual preferences of Switzerland. Pretty much neutral on the topic. Maybe attracted to about 2-3 people of either gender.

HRT Type: Pellets (E + P), No AA
About 2-3 months on a moderate dose I would definitely now tell you or anyone who asked that I am strongly attracted to men. This has gotten stronger as I have went to a high dose at about month three. I have found that I melt under an U.K. accent, which luckily doesn't come by to often here in the Midwest. I also find myself acting possibly nervous and fidgeting/straitening certain clothing/hair/accessories when around a guy I might be attracted to, but can't seem to make eye contact. Like if he catches me looking at him, then I reflexively avert my gaze. A little distressing, because I want to act on certain urges that are now present, but don't want to as I still have something that other girls don't. Plus when I do start dating I will have had (0) experience in anything in that area, which has me somewhat distressed. Not helping that GRS is probably at least 2yrs off for me.

Hope that helps, but like everything here it seems MMV.
~Jen

P.S. Never really had a thing for George Clooney, more of a Benedict Cumberbatch/Liam Neeson gal.
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LittleEmily24

Before HRT - Primarily unsure, leaning on Bi or Pansexual, had a sexual interest in mostly women and a little bit for men, had a kind of appreciation for the male anatomy, and had sexual fantasy interest in both.

After only 2 months of HRT - Complete lesbian, can't fathom a relationship with a man in neither a romantic or sexual way. I am not above appreciating a man's body for its physique, but it does nothing for me in any aspect. Love women eternally, both sexually and emotionally and romantically. However, more romantically and emotionally now than before, before it was about 80% sexually and 10% Emotional/romantically. Now I barely think about the sexual aspect and just appreciate the entirety of the female species. Another thing I've noticed is that back in my male days I would look at lesbian couples and react/feel unlike the common male response (sexually aroused and curious about what they do behind closed doors), instead I felt envious because their relationships seemed so... adorable. I had this desire to be in a relationship with a woman AS another woman, despite being a male and not knowing anything about trans-related anything.

So i guess in a way I've always been a lesbian and just started to dabble in other aspects in my male denial, and after hormones kinda "regulated" my system out, I came out 100% attracted to women.

Also; an interesting development - all the things that use to turn me on (kinks, fantasies, role play situations) literally RESET like a new computer, I no longer feel turned on by the same things and it feels as though I'm rediscovering my sexuality all over again. Its maybe a quarter dismaying but 3/4ths exciting :D like going through puberty again and trying all those crazy sexy things for the first time again xD

I use to be afraid that i would lose interest in my wife and become attracted to men (didn't want to experience the guilt of leaving her because i lost attraction.) but now our relationship is even BETTER than it ever was when I was male (even though my wife doesn't identify as lesbian) because we're more intimate and more loving towards each other, and sex is such an intense experience xD

Sorry, i get excited talking about the sexuality changes of HRT lol Another interesting discovery is that while before I would only look for sexual attraction in others, now when i look at people and admire their beauty, its in a different way, almost like I admire things that wouldn't be considered sexually driven. Like a person's hair or their skin color, or the way their calves are shaped lol, it doesn't arouse me as much as it just makes me appreciate it... I don't really know how to properly explain it :P my wife and other girl friends just tell me "now you know what its like to be a girl and not think with your d**k".

love it. never really "thought with my D**k" to begin with, but still  ;D ;D ;D
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carrie359

Jill,
What?  I am not queer!!.. was my first thought.  That cracked me up LOL..

Anyway, UH yea... I see guys in a total different way now.. from a female perspective.
On hrt I had moments when I think guys are yuck...... then I started noticing guys...in a different way like wow.. he is good looking and I never thought of guys as attractive.. or at least let myself admit it.
I now realize after SRS I may want to be with guys.....and thats a mind trip.
But not surprising because with any sexual fantasy or sexual experience  I have never been the guy ever..  I put myself in the girls place because thats how I felt from early childhood.
So seems natural to like guys later.. but not before srs.
I never dreamed HRT would change me so much.. I am a total woman now.. not presenting but wow have I changed mentally and physically..
I love it..and for me thats a good and bad thing....
Carrie




Quote from: Jill F on May 21, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
I know I'm probably sounding like a broken record by now, but If you're trans you're already beyond queer anyway.  You like who you like.  It's really no big deal.  Just be happy and let it flow.
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