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Do you believe in God?

Started by Stephanie95, May 23, 2014, 10:17:02 PM

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sebster

I won't give him the satisfaction after making me trans.

(No.)
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Brandon

Quote from: sebster on September 27, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
I won't give him the satisfaction after making me trans.

(No.)

He didn't make you trans, I used to think the same thing.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: Jess42 on September 27, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
I used to believe in something. But I really don't know anymore. ??? The more I think about it, the more paranormal investigations I do and what or who seems to be stuck and in misery, I just really don't know anymore. Time loops, distorted time from EMF fields, information holding minerals? I can't figure it out and I keep trying with no conclusive results. All I know is some people's prayers seem to be answered and mine never are. So yeah, God seems to exist for some and not for others. Not so much for me it seems. :(

One thing you have to remember is that God does not work on anyone elses time he works on his own but its understandable to feel that way.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Eevee

Even though I'm agnostic and I don't know who or what exists for sure, lately I've been hoping that God doesn't exist. He's been used as a weapon against me far too often lately and I'm sick of it. If this God or his followers are going to treat me like this, then I want nothing to do with him.

Eevee
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Wynternight

Quote from: Brandon on September 28, 2014, 03:03:15 PM
He didn't make you trans, I used to think the same thing.

Who did, the debil? If there's a god he's cruel and capricious. If the universe has sentience it has a sick sense of humour. I'm fairly certain it was the DES my mum took when she was pregnant with me. I'm quite firmly agnostic and despise organised religion.
Stooping down, dipping my wings, I came into the darkly-splendid abodes. There, in that formless abyss was I made a partaker of the Mysteries Averse. LIBER CORDIS CINCTI SERPENTE-11;4

HRT- 31 August, 2014
FT - 7 Sep, 2016
VFS- 19 October, 2016
FFS/BA - 28 Feb, 2018
SRS - 31 Oct 2018
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Brandon

Quote from: Wynternight on September 29, 2014, 01:24:45 AM
Who did, the debil? If there's a god he's cruel and capricious. If the universe has sentience it has a sick sense of humour. I'm fairly certain it was the DES my mum took when she was pregnant with me. I'm quite firmly agnostic and despise organised religion.

Yes its the devil you can laugh or argue me down but only the devil puts sickness, disease and birth defects on people God is just testing us to see if we can handle it, God never puts anything on you that you can't bare.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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ImagineKate

I do believe in God. I have questioned my belief throughout my life but now after miracles in my life I am firmly on the "God is real and I believe" camp.

I was baptized Presbyterian, but grew up around different faiths - Hinduism, Jainism, Islam, Buddhism, Baha'i, Judaism. I even have good friends who are atheists and agnostics. I love science and I don't think it is mutually exclusive of faith either.

As for making me trans, well I believe that God has a plan for me and he will guide me through. He hasn't failed me so far.
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Wynternight

Quote from: Brandon on September 29, 2014, 06:00:56 AM
Yes its the devil you can laugh or argue me down but only the devil puts sickness, disease and birth defects on people God is just testing us to see if we can handle it, God never puts anything on you that you can't bare.

He failed in this one because I can't handle this. Thanks, bearded dude in the sky, thanks for nothing and kiss my hindquarters. Proselytize elsewhere. 
Stooping down, dipping my wings, I came into the darkly-splendid abodes. There, in that formless abyss was I made a partaker of the Mysteries Averse. LIBER CORDIS CINCTI SERPENTE-11;4

HRT- 31 August, 2014
FT - 7 Sep, 2016
VFS- 19 October, 2016
FFS/BA - 28 Feb, 2018
SRS - 31 Oct 2018
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✰Fairy~Wishes✰

I used to, when I was a kid. Because my parents believed in God and made me very scared of God.

Today I don't believe in God anymore. But I think it's possible that there's a God. The universe could exist in a computer.
So that would make the person who made the computer God, I guess?

I don't believeve in the Bible, though.
Look up in the sky, it makes you feel so high!
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Illuminess

Quote from: ✰Fairy~Wishes✰ on September 29, 2014, 02:20:21 PM
I used to, when I was a kid. Because my parents believed in God and made me very scared of God.

Today I don't believe in God anymore. But I think it's possible that there's a God. The universe could exist in a computer.
So that would make the person who made the computer God, I guess?

I don't believeve in the Bible, though.

Spirituality has been reduced to such a simplistic, highly polarised ideal that when one religious depiction of God fails to give conviction and meaning to our lives we just shut down and stop believing anything. We all base our idea of God on Christianity: a male deity that is somehow jealous and vengeful and loving and compassionate at the same time. To think that God is something far less descriptive and personal seems to be difficult to do for many people. It actually requires one to contemplate deeply, but we're all too busy slaving away and watching American Idol.

The Bible has a lot of philosophical (and even mystical) value, but it is no authority on the divine. All that matters is how you choose to connect to it. A religion that insults intelligence, inhibits individuality and personal liberty, and tries to sway you through fear is a religion to stay far, far away from. Religion and God are not mutually exclusive, and being spiritual is a personal experience. I was raised Christian, and it was my faith until I was 16, but I never abandoned my spirituality. I just found it elsewhere, and it only got stronger.

So, don't let a religion that failed you keep you from God, however you choose to define it. If God, to you, is simply the cosmos and the enormity of nature, then let that be your foundation. There is no right or wrong approach if light and love fill your being and you allow others to do the same.
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Illuminess

"More than ever, it is time now for us to move from religiosity to spirituality, which means definitively replacing the sole belief in God with the knowledge of divine laws – that is, universal, natural, and spiritual laws. The well-being we seek, including on a material plane, is to be found in this knowledge and in the wisdom that ensues. An ancient Rosicrucian adage says, "It is from ignorance and ignorance alone that humans must free themselves." It is indeed at the origin of the worst things a person can do to oneself, to others, and to one's environment. It is also the source of different superstitions that demean humanity and prevent it from finding complete fulfillment. So give a spiritual direction to your life. In other words, do not be just a living thing, be a living soul."

— The Rosicrucian Appellatio Manifesto - http://www.rosicrucian.org/appellatio_manifesto/appellatio_manifesto.pdf
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Tossu-sama

No, plain and simple.

I was thinking about writing some more but I'm sure it would just offend some people even if it's just my personal opinion and view on things... so I won't.
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Illuminess

Quote from: Tossu-sama on October 03, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
No, plain and simple.

I was thinking about writing some more but I'm sure it would just offend some people even if it's just my personal opinion and view on things... so I won't.

Is your lack of belief due to some past experience, or based on any resentment for organised religion, or did you simply just conclude by your reasoning that any idea of God is preposterous? This isn't a hostile reply, I'm just curious. A lot of atheists I've talked to seem to arrive at their conclusions due to perceiving the God of Abraham as absurd and malevolent, and then from that point just lumping in all things metaphysical as just more of the same.

I have no problems with or judgments of atheists. I would consider myself one simply for the fact that I do not believe in a deity. I would consider myself more of a Pantheist, seeing "God' as impersonal and permeating all things without bias or favoritism, kind of like The Force. My particular spiritual path is Thelema which is easily adaptable by any perspective.

"The Method of Science; The Aim of Religion" is the motto of the Thelemic fraternal order of The A.'.A.'..

Anyway, you should definitely expound upon your views, albeit tactfully. There are people here who are most definitely more sensitive than others. Everyone should be able to share their beliefs and how they arrived at them so that we can all better understand each other.
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"Despair holds a sweetness that only an artist's tongue can taste."Illuminess
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Wynternight

Quote from: sororcaeli on October 03, 2014, 07:30:09 PM
Is your lack of belief due to some past experience, or based on any resentment for organised religion, or did you simply just conclude by your reasoning that any idea of God is preposterous? This isn't a hostile reply, I'm just curious. A lot of atheists I've talked to seem to arrive at their conclusions due to perceiving the God of Abraham as absurd and malevolent, and then from that point just lumping in all things metaphysical as just more of the same.

I have no problems with or judgments of atheists. I would consider myself one simply for the fact that I do not believe in a deity. I would consider myself more of a Pantheist, seeing "God' as impersonal and permeating all things without bias or favoritism, kind of like The Force. My particular spiritual path is Thelema which is easily adaptable by any perspective.

"The Method of Science; The Aim of Religion" is the motto of the Thelemic fraternal order of The A.'.A.'..

Anyway, you should definitely expound upon your views, albeit tactfully. There are people here who are most definitely more sensitive than others. Everyone should be able to share their beliefs and how they arrived at them so that we can all better understand each other.

As an aside, I love your current avatar pic!
Stooping down, dipping my wings, I came into the darkly-splendid abodes. There, in that formless abyss was I made a partaker of the Mysteries Averse. LIBER CORDIS CINCTI SERPENTE-11;4

HRT- 31 August, 2014
FT - 7 Sep, 2016
VFS- 19 October, 2016
FFS/BA - 28 Feb, 2018
SRS - 31 Oct 2018
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Illuminess

Quote from: Wynternight on October 03, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
As an aside, I love your current avatar pic!

Why thank you! It's totally Photoshopped, but so far it's the best "passable selfie" I've done. :P I don't know if you can see it, but my pendant is the Star of Babalon. :)
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Tossu-sama

Quote from: sororcaeli on October 03, 2014, 07:30:09 PM
Is your lack of belief due to some past experience, or based on any resentment for organised religion, or did you simply just conclude by your reasoning that any idea of God is preposterous? This isn't a hostile reply, I'm just curious. A lot of atheists I've talked to seem to arrive at their conclusions due to perceiving the God of Abraham as absurd and malevolent, and then from that point just lumping in all things metaphysical as just more of the same.

I have no problems with or judgments of atheists. I would consider myself one simply for the fact that I do not believe in a deity. I would consider myself more of a Pantheist, seeing "God' as impersonal and permeating all things without bias or favoritism, kind of like The Force. My particular spiritual path is Thelema which is easily adaptable by any perspective.

"The Method of Science; The Aim of Religion" is the motto of the Thelemic fraternal order of The A.'.A.'..

Anyway, you should definitely expound upon your views, albeit tactfully. There are people here who are most definitely more sensitive than others. Everyone should be able to share their beliefs and how they arrived at them so that we can all better understand each other.

First of all, a disclaimer: I'm not a native English speaker so while my writing might come off as aggressive or something, it really isn't. Also, I find it easier to discuss things like this face to face.

Well, I could borrow your words and say that the idea of god is preposterous in my mind. I find religious writings a mere product of fiction and honestly, I sometimes do read the Bible but for me it's like any other book I could grab from the shelf. Just a mere pastime and it usually leaves me deeply confused mainly due to all the contradictions it has.
And as a disclaimer, I mainly refer to Christianity because that's the background from which I come from, more accurately Evangelical Lutheran one like a majority of Finns.

I think a huge influence in my life has been the access to science. I have always had science-related books ever since I was a child. I couldn't read them so I asked someone from my family to do it for me. I was very young when someone happened to read me about the Big Bang Theory and compared to what the Bible says, it seems much more plausible explanation.
I always had an interest in science and no one in my family was ever there to say that the evolution isn't true etc so I grew up to... well, basically to believe in science.

Of course, I must admit I am fascinated by religions from study point of view. Kind of like I'm fascinated by the fictional world of Tamriel from the Elder Scrolls series and everything it holds within. This is not an attempt to offend anyone, it's just the way I see things and tells how I see religions.
Also, from the literature point of view, I really like the way the Bible was written, Finnish or English. I just... have a thing for everything that is overly dramatic and epic. I don't know why, it's just always been like that. It might have something to do with me having dabbled in writing myself.

That being said, I suppose I should mention that I actually live (and have lived my whole life) in Finland's equivalent of the Bible Belt. But the presence of church is still much more muted down than it is in the US, I would say. Generally, people turn to religion and church here only when they need it, whether it is to baptize a child, marriage, funeral or to seek some way to oppose something they don't like and justify it.

This is so not a topic for text-based discussion just after waking up, lol...
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Natalie

I don't believe in imaginary friends...
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Illuminess

Quote from: Tossu-sama on October 04, 2014, 03:56:33 AM
That being said, I suppose I should mention that I actually live (and have lived my whole life) in Finland's equivalent of the Bible Belt. But the presence of church is still much more muted down than it is in the US, I would say. Generally, people turn to religion and church here only when they need it, whether it is to baptize a child, marriage, funeral or to seek some way to oppose something they don't like and justify it.

It's so odd how Scandinavia seems to be covered in churches and yet there are far less Christians. Or maybe that's just Norway? So, how do the Finnish compare the God of Abraham with Ukko?
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Jess42

Quote from: Natalie on October 04, 2014, 04:34:37 AM
I don't believe in imaginary friends...

I do. The voices in my head tell me they are my friends. ???
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Illuminess

Quote from: Jess42 on September 27, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
I used to believe in something. But I really don't know anymore. ??? The more I think about it, the more paranormal investigations I do and what or who seems to be stuck and in misery, I just really don't know anymore. Time loops, distorted time from EMF fields, information holding minerals? I can't figure it out and I keep trying with no conclusive results. All I know is some people's prayers seem to be answered and mine never are. So yeah, God seems to exist for some and not for others. Not so much for me it seems. :(

I think one of the biggest issues people have is trying to find evidence based on someone else's reported experiences or what some religion has claimed as the true nature of God. God, to me, isn't something to go looking for, or something that you can just suddenly accept as real. Your life experiences must lead you to that moment of realisation. If you never get there, then no big deal, because all that matters is how you move through this life, how you treat others, and your journey to self-love. Spirituality doesn't have to be so specific for everyone. Simply being genuine, compassionate, and appreciative of the wonders of nature is spiritual enough.
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