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Started by Zoe Louise Taylor, May 25, 2014, 08:16:13 AM

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Zoe Louise Taylor

Heya ladies

ive been in the process of applying for jobs this past month and am in need of some advice!
Ive decided that im gonna make it clear to an employer that im transgendered, and am wanting to somehow mention this during the application process.

Ive written my c.v and have entitled it "zoe louise taylor - cv" and I have put my legal name with my adress and phone number etc!!
im just wondering how I can tell an employer that im transgendered, im gonna write a profile section at the top of my cv so shall I put it there, or maybe write it in my cover letter!!

I know it sounds silly, but I dont want an employer to be put off by me being trans, so I just want it to sound asthough its not a big deal to me, so it wont be a big thing for them either!!

any advice would be much aplreciated :) x

thanks zoe
Xx
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Zoe Louise Taylor

No, but the only time I dont live as a woman Is at work!
theres no chance that I can come out in my current job, as I ferl the level of bullying id recieve would be too much (I currently work in the constrution industry :/) so i feel the only way i can possibly go full time is to get a new job!!

Xx
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Rachel

I go through a lot of resumes and cover letters. I have never seen gender or sexuality on either. I infer gender from the person's name.

The first step where I work is an on-line application, cover letter and resume process. Then that is reviewed by HR for required licenses, certificates of compliance, experience and years of experience and training. The next level I review the resume and select. Then HR performs a phone interview, then FTF interview with HR and a diverse panel I assemble. After the interview we rate the candidate on a subjective criteria and provide a number and vote.  We hire on a 100% conscience. ALL forms of bigotry, sexism. ageism and racisms are strictly forbidden and we call each other on it if it is suspected (mostly an age thing, at the extremes).

Where I work there are 14 transsexuals open to HR and benefits. With that being said, people can be bigoted and racist. I would disclose at the HR phone interview. HR "should" say it is protected and we have policies that we enforce with termination and zero tolerance for harassment. 

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I've only had menial jobs, no cover letters or that sorta stuff needed. But I've never told unless I had to. Because of the hell I went through at Toys R Us, there 7 years, damn good at my job (hey, I got a keychain out of it! woo-hoo!), Heck I was getting 2 raises average per year, started at $5 and hour (which was minimum wage back in '94) and when up to $10.25 (by 2001 - most I ever made in any of my jobs, pay went down pretty much as the years gone by) then treated inhumanly once I came out that I was transsexual. I ended up having to quit it got so bad. I still amaze myself at my courage to go out there and be me, just wish I had enough to stand up for myself. Of coarse, with your case they simply either hire you or not (making up another excuse why they won't if they don't, probably). If they do hire you then they most likely won't have a problem with it, though certain individuals within the company may (depending on who and how many know - this, because all people are different, can always be an issue anywhere).

Worked at a floral shop (only job where I was able to dress up pretty every day, that I miss), an off the wall video rental place for a while until it closed down and I'm confident that not a single person knew. When I worked at Kohls, no one knew right away, but when time for W2's I heard question about it from one of the managers to my brother whom also worked there for a while, he told that manager to ask me about it (he didn't), though each night was the same as usual after that so apparently it wasn't a problem. The job I had in North Carolina, they didn't know right away, not until they saw my I.D. better, noticing the 'M' after they said I was hired. The store manager (I'm pretty sure all of the managers knew, but not any of my coworkers) just asked me if there'd be any problems, his concern was with using the bathroom, I reassured him there wouldn't be. I was there a few years and was treated fairly by everyone.

The job I currently work at, I have no idea whether the manager knows or not, she put me down as female when filling in some of my info into the computer (I purposely never check off the sex part on applications, letting them decide for me) when I was hired. In less than two months I will have been there for a year, so far I haven't seen sign that anyone is treating me differently than any other female would be. I go to work, do my job, and they are glad to have me. I don't know what anyone's reactions would be like if they found out I was transsexual, but I don't think it could go as bad as Toys R Us was. While work places aren't supposed to discriminate, the individual within the workplace can and will if they are able, one person can make it down right awful, especially if its management (they'll find a legitimate reason to force you out).

But you coming out ahead of time, even though it could cause you not to get the job (they'd simply find another candidate), I think its better for you. If they don't have issues with it, then you know that everything will be okay, afterall they aren't going to hire you if they do. I think its a plus doing what you are doing because no surprises, everything's out in the open, you'll be treated fairly. These are my thoughts on it, but I've never been one for knowing how to make the right choices.

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Zoe Louise Taylor

Quote from: Megan Joanne on May 25, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
I've only had menial jobs, no cover letters or that sorta stuff needed. But I've never told unless I had to. Because of the hell I went through at Toys R Us, there 7 years, damn good at my job (hey, I got a keychain out of it! woo-hoo!), Heck I was getting 2 raises average per year, started at $5 and hour (which was minimum wage back in '94) and when up to $10.25 (by 2001 - most I ever made in any of my jobs, pay went down pretty much as the years gone by) then treated inhumanly once I came out that I was transsexual. I ended up having to quit it got so bad. I still amaze myself at my courage to go out there and be me, just wish I had enough to stand up for myself. Of coarse, with your case they simply either hire you or not (making up another excuse why they won't if they don't, probably). If they do hire you then they most likely won't have a problem with it, though certain individuals within the company may (depending on who and how many know - this, because all people are different, can always be an issue anywhere).

Worked at a floral shop (only job where I was able to dress up pretty every day, that I miss), an off the wall video rental place for a while until it closed down and I'm confident that not a single person knew. When I worked at Kohls, no one knew right away, but when time for W2's I heard question about it from one of the managers to my brother whom also worked there for a while, he told that manager to ask me about it (he didn't), though each night was the same as usual after that so apparently it wasn't a problem. The job I had in North Carolina, they didn't know right away, not until they saw my I.D. better, noticing the 'M' after they said I was hired. The store manager (I'm pretty sure all of the managers knew, but not any of my coworkers) just asked me if there'd be any problems, his concern was with using the bathroom, I reassured him there wouldn't be. I was there a few years and was treated fairly by everyone.

The job I currently work at, I have no idea whether the manager knows or not, she put me down as female when filling in some of my info into the computer (I purposely never check off the sex part on applications, letting them decide for me) when I was hired. In less than two months I will have been there for a year, so far I haven't seen sign that anyone is treating me differently than any other female would be. I go to work, do my job, and they are glad to have me. I don't know what anyone's reactions would be like if they found out I was transsexual, but I don't think it could go as bad as Toys R Us was. While work places aren't supposed to discriminate, the individual within the workplace can and will if they are able, one person can make it down right awful, especially if its management (they'll find a legitimate reason to force you out).

But you coming out ahead of time, even though it could cause you not to get the job (they'd simply find another candidate), I think its better for you. If they don't have issues with it, then you know that everything will be okay, afterall they aren't going to hire you if they do. I think its a plus doing what you are doing because no surprises, everything's out in the open, you'll be treated fairly. These are my thoughts on it, but I've never been one for knowing how to make the right choices.

this is exactly why I want them to know straight away!! I dont want to hide the fact im trans, and I want an employer to know from the start, so that I know that they're the right company for me to work for! And so that it doesnt become a big thing!!

Im hoping that they will appreciate my honesty, and will respect that ive not hidden this part of my life from them!

Im fed up of not being able to be myself at work, I just want people to know me as zoe!! And be able to be me 24/7

xx
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defective snowflake

I wouldn't put it on the application or resume. Because just looking at them, that's their first chance to weed out people and often its for minor stuff, stupid stuff, etc. if they have lots of applicants. 
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Jaime R D aka big head horsey-face on May 25, 2014, 09:47:06 AM
I wouldn't put it on the application or resume. Because just looking at them, that's their first chance to weed out people and often its for minor stuff, stupid stuff, etc. if they have lots of applicants.

Agreed completely.

I never disclose, personally. Do you really think it's a good idea to put that on the table and have them believe that even you consider it an issue at the workplace? If it were me, I'd want to give the impression that whether or not they know, it's not going to be an issue because it is NOT an issue in MY everyday life.

Do you think it's smart for somebody to disclose their sexuality? If so, why is gender identity any different in this circumstance?
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Tashiya

I really agree with  Alaina.. why do you have to mention your gender..

Ok the first thing is.. DO YOU REALLY NEED THIS JOB?... if so, do what ever it takes to get it.. think about the rest after getting it..
Trust me,, people are really unpredictable...We have no idea on what kind of a mentality that person who will be assessing your application is having.. My family owns a top company based in an Asian country and we have our branches in US, Canada and UK. what I want to say is, when it comes to recruiting people,i have seen, no matter how educated the HR nut bags are, they do what they feel right according to their set of beliefs, most of the times. I will give you an example, in both our branches in Canada and US we have transgender people. I don't think that they have even told to the management about it.
But the issue is in London. that is,my uncle is the one who is handling all the recruitment and he has instructed the HR department not to hire trans(god knows why..).  So imagine, if there will be an A-hole like him behind everything what can happen. Ok, now the cool part is, we really do have transgender people in working for us in the London.. :).. coz,, they never told that they are trans, officially.. On the other hand, for someone who will say in the application that he is trans........ boooooooom.. He won't get the job

So my friend, get the job that you want first,... surely you must have applied for a job and a working environment that you have assumed to be the best place to be who you are really. So, have faith in that choice... just be an ordinary applicant,, I would never put my gender or race or even my age... This is north America my friend... :)...

All the best...
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