I'm going shopping tomorrow so if you have the time to reply to this before I get to town so I can buy anything I might need then please help, thanks. As to my actual post/reply,
Sorry I haven't had the chance to reply here, had a lot going on. Thank you everyone for your posts and I hope to get some more in regards to this post. As to stuff said here, I'll break it down into sections as to the answers you might be wanting to know such as, do I use a spray/cream, my techniques and then some. I'll even post a vid which I used to help me get this far but really, I need your help. Btw, I don't know some of the stuff ya'll have said such as product names/techniques/treatments mentioned and such. Like I said, I have practically no knowledge when it comes to this. (and most female stuff sadly..) I shall type a name such as my techniques and bold then and increase their text size so you can quickly go too and read the section you wish to read however, I'll be giving a response/answer to quotes so it'll be below those quotes. Oh and, where can I buy these expensive flat irons like the chi one and more that cost like $100 or more dollars? I mainly shop at Wal-Mart (Where I got my crappy Revlon flat iron from lol which I only saw $20-$30 flat irons such as that one..) and have no way to order online atm..
Do I use protecting products when flat ironing my hair?
Quote from: learningtolive on May 25, 2014, 01:40:22 PM
an expensive Chi flat iron that goes to insane heat levels while I use a remington that goes up to 300. I'm not sure if it's the heat or the brand, but the Chi that she uses works very well for her. Maybe look into getting an expensive one?
By the way, do you use any products before styling? For example, I use a heat protecting spray as well as a argan oil product before I flat iron and a little biosilk afterwards. Doing this protects my hair and also allows my hair to stay straight and unfrizzy. When I don't use that stuff, my hair kind of comes out a frizzy mess, so maybe a product will help you too.
Also, please be careful to protect your hair. Hair Straighteners will do some damage. Besides using a heat spray, I use a deep conditioner at least 3 times a week (I probably go overboard) to keep it moisturized and use a sulfate free shampoo. When I don't deep condition, I'll use John Frieda's frizzease. And the deep considitioner I use is by redken which I believe is called intense renewal (it's in a purple jar). Both of them work really well.
How expensive is a chi flat iron & how high does it go to? I currently have a crappy Revlon flat iron that was $20-$30 and the plate is thin, not wide. Well I'm seriously considering trying it but, what I don't get is how come a hair stylist who should know what they're talking about tells me I need an expensive one yet "other people" will sometimes tell me that's not true and is just a way for them to make money, a $20-$30 one will get it flat...
No. Not a one and my hair is fine, doesn't break. Not entirely sure what that means but, I have long hair, looks like it's not half broken/cut off and I only lose about 10-20 hairs a day in the shower. (usually just 10) From what I understand, that's normal to lose that amount of hair? Like I said in the first post, My flat iron doesn't steam or smoke, including when flat ironing my hair. Plus, the one time I used a chi silk infusion cream/gel, it actually made my hair frizz and come unstraitened as if I was outside. -_- Now if I get a better flat iron, believe you me, I WILL be protecting my hair. Btw, you'll notice some bold words and such in your quote, that's because I don't know what those are and have never heard of them. lol (Like I said, next to 0 knowledge here on this stuff..)
Is the density of my hair/mosiure/sweat the reason why my hair won't flat iron?Quote from: echo_artist on May 25, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
Well the density of your hair may prevent it from staying flat, plus moisture is a factor, if you sweat or there's alot of moisture in the environment that can cause it to poof.
Don't straighten it too often, your hair need atleast hours before being re heated at such a high temperature. Or it'll break after constantly straightening it.
It's not. As I said in the OP post, I went to a hair salon and she made my hair so flat that it stayed that way into the next day. If SHE can do it, then I should be able to do it too. Otherwise, flat irons are a big joke and don't work but we all know they do.. (Least the really good ones)
How many hrs you talking?
How I do my hair and what is my technique?Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 26, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
Without knowing your hair type and your techniques, I can't really offer much advice. All I can say is if it's super curly, you may want to get a keratin treatment first. This will make flat ironing much easier (and make your hair healthier as well). However, you may just be taking too much of a section at a time, which would basically not do anything to the hair. I can't really tell you how much to take per section, it's just a "feel" that you have to get adjusted to.
Flat irons simply break the hydrogen bonds in the hair so they can be reshaped. The more expensive flat irons generally have better plates which are safer on your hair and more durable. A word of advice though, if your flat iron takes 15 minutes to heat up, it's a piece of crap. Good ones heat up in literally seconds.
How am I supposed to know what hair my type is? Wait, there's a hair type? As for my techniques, as long as I have time & am not in a hurry I will pull back half of my hair for all of my head/hair. I will then proceed to flat iron the left side in 3 sections, going over each section 2 times, sometimes more if it needs it. I then do the right side the same way, followed by my back hair which, only the lower bottom of it gets done this way. Afterwards, I take down my pulled back hair (Oh, it was pulled back using some clips that a hair stylist at a hair salon gave me for free) and proceed to do a repeat but this time only flat ironing the hair that was taken down. Afterwards, I do the front of my hair/head the same way, pull it up, flat iron 3 sections (one at a time like before) and then let it down and finish flat ironing the hair in the front that was just let down the same as the rest. At this point, my hair is still poofy but is not a tangled mess. So I THEN proceed to flat ironing my whole head again, however this time flat ironing all my hair on each side instead of doing it half at a time. I do it the same way, take in my hand a section of hair going from front to back doing 3 sections, one at a time just like before, once the left side is down, then is the right side, followed by the back and then the front again. At this point, it should be done and I'm through but sometimes, given the whether/humidity outside I may have to do it once more for certain areas of my hair/head which are random. Example, this morning I had to flat iron my front on the left section more because the hair was going to the right and not wanting to be straight. Even then, I only managed to somewhat get it straight but it was flat enough. lol Oh and lastly on my technique, I forgot to sya but, once I finish each side of my hair/head I immediately get my flat brush and comb it downward which helps. I've tried combing it WHILE I flat iron but, I simply can't do it, tried but can't. Like how the girl in the below vid does it, couldn't do it even with her tip..
Now, que walk outside/wind/humidity/just wait a few mins to an hr max whether inside or outside and it'll become poofy again, just not a tangled mess but still it'll look somewhat tangled. Oh and if I put my hair up with a hair bow and or wear a hair net (Which my job requires me to do so) then it'll really look bad. All this while also waiting 15 mins for my flat iron to heat up at the max setting and it takes me anywhere from 10-20 mins to get it that good.
Sounds? Surely you're exaggerating? I mean even the girl in the below vid says hers (A chi flat iron) takes about 7 or so mins to heat up.. Then again, when I went to the hair salon unless she had it going while I heated my hair up ir left it on the whole time, I think hers was used on me within secs..
Quote from: Jen on May 26, 2014, 07:33:32 PM
I have a nice Chi flat iron, so idk if it's your iron or not, but I would recommend mine to anybody. About products, I always use the chi iron guard spray when I do mine. Maybe try that ( it helps protect your hair but also help with the straightening) and if it doesn't work consider getting a better iron?
I once had a cheap one too and it didn't work worth anything.
Where can you buy a chi flat iron and the guard spray? Do you know of a vid that shows how to use the flat spray?
I don't think the spray alone will do anything tbh..
EDIT: I believe I was going to post a vid for where I learned the little that I know now or soemthign but can't find it. Sorry. If I come across it soonish then I'll post it here though.