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sometimes...I really hate being a girl

Started by jussmoi4nao, June 11, 2014, 03:39:04 PM

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jussmoi4nao

Or at least the kinda girl I am(read:shallow)

I put too much self worth in looks and beauty, I think. Which is fine on the days I feel confident. Which I do a lot of the time, sometimes to the point of being arrogant.

But other times no. I feel really insecure and self conscious. I find a million things I hate about myself and I feel so ->-bleeped-<-ing worthless.

Some days I'm really greatful for getting to be a girl and starting so young and all that. But others I wish I could just be a boy and put my fingers through my hair and look good and have it not even matter.

Has anyone else become obsessed with the mirror and image. I just hate myself today not even sure why
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f_Anna_tastic

I think it's rare to find someone who is completely confident and happy with their body.

With regards to feeling it is easier as a boy, sure it can be, certainly faster to get ready, but just remember that the grass always seems greener.

"What do you fear, lady?" he asked.
"A cage," she said. "To stay behind bars until use and old age accept them, and all chance of doing great deeds is gone beyond recall or desire."
                                                                                     ― The Return of the King
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Jill F

I'd rather be an unattractive woman than a dead man.  Just sayin'...
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Auroramarianna

Well,

I am new to all this, and haven't been on hormone therapy. But I can say I identify with what you're saying to some extent. Acknowledging the heavy pressure society puts on women to be "beautiful" can often makes us more shallow, self-conscious about our appearance. Since I have not started anything, this affects me even more because I'm fighting hormones and all.

I guess it's normal for you to feel such way, since most women are conditioned to be put such emphasis on their own looks and taking care of themselves. It is also normal not to like everything in our bodies, there's always something we'd like to correct. No one is perfect, remember, and other people can sympathise with you easily.

It's important when you are feeling that way to recognize that looks are like lucky bets, really. Some people are lucky, others aren't. Yet is the most fragile gift ever... It's ephemeral, and fade as we all age. Therefore, focus more on your personality - a good heart can last forever, and it really is all that matters. But don't hate yourself for liking the way you look, there's nothing wrong with being confident with your body and feeling pretty.

Hope this helps :)
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Miharu Barbie

Hi Abby,

You are beautiful!  And I'm not just talking about your physical form.  Doubting ourselves is, unfortunately, a natural part of the process of transition.  Try to not give the doubts too much energy; you don't want to get stuck in a self-fulfilling cycle of doubt and judgement leading to more doubt and judgement.  Allow yourself to experience the doubt; wallow in it for a while if you need to.  But get back to self-loving excitement about becoming the beautiful young woman that you are as quickly as you can.

Nothing is more beautiful and appealing than healthy self-esteem.  Never miss an opportunity to deliberately build up your confidence.  A good, healthy sense of self worth will not only keep you beautiful for decades to come, but it will also help ease the discomfort of these moments of doubt and judgement.

You are perfect exactly as you are!  I can feel it.

Hugs!
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


HRT:                         June 1998
Full Time For Good:     November 1998
Never Looking Back:  Now!
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LittleEmily24

I can vibe with this, for me it mostly happens when im naked =/ I think im only good looking with clothes on. I've noticed that this is common in the younger crowd, and i honestly cant begin to tell you why =/ but i have days like that too.. granted it doesnt really make me hate being a girl rather than makes me hate the world we live in where the standards of beauty are for the most part, impossible to achieve because they are also, for the most part, entirely falsified.

If its any consolation though.... i would club baby seals to look like you on your worst day 0_0 (>_< yeah right, i could NEVER do such a thing... but you get the gravity of what i'm saying lol you're totally jaw-dropping)
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Nero

Quote from: LittleEmily24 on June 12, 2014, 02:23:31 PM

If its any consolation though.... i would club baby seals to look like you on your worst day 0_0 (>_< yeah right, i could NEVER do such a thing... but you get the gravity of what i'm saying lol you're totally jaw-dropping)

Unfortunately, it's often the good looking ones who suffer most. 'Almost' perfect. Girls who aren't very good looking learn quickly they can't compete, and find other sources of self esteem. Whereas for the good looking girl, the importance of her looks is constantly reinforced everywhere she goes.

Also people are both kinder and more cruel to pretty girls. Other girls are more likely to pick out the pretty one's 'flaws', more than they would a plain girl. Guys sometimes do this too. It's a curse and a blessing. Pretty girls get perks, sure. But in the end, the focus on their appearance hurts.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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TerriT

Quote from: Abbyxo on June 11, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Or at least the kinda girl I am(read:shallow)

lmao.

Someday you'll be old and wrinkled and falling apart. Enjoy it now, while you can.
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Jill F

Quote from: TiffanyT on June 12, 2014, 02:50:26 PM
lmao.

Someday you'll be old and wrinkled and falling apart. Enjoy it now, while you can.

Jeez, It's not THAT bad.  It's actually pretty cool considering the alternative.
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Jess42

Quote from: Abbyxo on June 11, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Or at least the kinda girl I am(read:shallow)

I put too much self worth in looks and beauty, I think. Which is fine on the days I feel confident. Which I do a lot of the time, sometimes to the point of being arrogant.

But other times no. I feel really insecure and self conscious. I find a million things I hate about myself and I feel so ->-bleeped-<-ing worthless.

Some days I'm really greatful for getting to be a girl and starting so young and all that. But others I wish I could just be a boy and put my fingers through my hair and look good and have it not even matter.

Has anyone else become obsessed with the mirror and image. I just hate myself today not even sure why

I don't see you as shallow. I see you as a beautiful young woman. Don't think you are worthless because you aren't.

Welcome to womanhood Abby trans or not. Not being satisfied with your looks. Feeling less than beatiful and critical of yourself. As far as I am concerned you can put a little self worth in your looks because you do have them but don' let that be the defining characteristic about you.

Yes, I am addicted to the mirror too, cause I am so good looking as a guy and extremely beautiful as a girl and I want to look my best when I grace society with my presence. ;) That is true arrogance. But really not the way I feel. So I really don't see you as that arrogant, just count yourself lucky, 'cause you are way prettier than a lot of cis girls. Definately prettier than any girl in my family. So... Just go with it and enjoy it.
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Just Shelly

I can't say I hate it.....but there are times it would be nice to just wake up brush teeth, put on a hat and leave the house. Some times I don't do too much more than that, but the way I like to appear still takes more maintenance than it did before!!

The hair is probably my biggest change I have had to accept....many times I am in awe of my hair and can feel very girly looking at myself. Other times it stinks....I can take 15-20 minutes to style it....only to put it up in a pony tail after getting so frustrated. I don't mind a pony tail and for the most part I do feel it makes me look younger...its just that I never had long flowing hair....and damn it I want people to see it!!:)

Sometimes I would like to put on a tshirt without a bra....but then I have nothing....unless its a tank. Even then they don't appear very big but then the nipples show through. Ya this could be one negative of being a women. But I will take all of them over what I faced before.

The one thing that does SUCK is the patronizing and prejudicial attitudes I get from some men. Who the hell do they think they are!!!
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Adam (birkin)

Lol, as a girl I just wet down my hair (it was shorter though - not butch, but yeah), brushed my teeth, put on deodorant, threw on a tee and pants and headed out. I'm sure that there were some people who judged me silently but for the most part, no one gave me a bad time. Honestly, I can't recall ever being harassed for the way I dressed or for not wearing makeup. I was only harassed for my appearance when I had BAD acne, like pizza face acne...with mild acne I was left alone. There were times where I'd have like 3 or 4 pimples and never wear make up and no one cared as far as I could tell. I spent years like that.

I think, in part, it's all about perspective. As a teenager, I was insecure, and I felt ugly because of my braces and my broad yet skinny figure. But no one ever called me ugly, or bothered me, and people treated me with respect in stores and stuff. In my early 20s, I did not give a single solitary f* if anyone thought I didn't dress right or look right. Part of that was because I was a "lesbian", so if a guy didn't think I was hot, that was great! haha. But beyond that, I realized that even if I was the sexiest thing to grace this earth, people would hate me for something or other. There's always going to be people who judge, and no one can ever truly escape that. I valued my own comfort over fighting that impossible battle. And I had plenty of people who loved me, respected me, and yes, even found me sexy.
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Jess42

Quote from: Jill F on June 12, 2014, 02:54:44 PM
Jeez, It's not THAT bad.  It's actually pretty cool considering the alternative.

What is the alternative? They do say the good die young so in reality I am immortal. ;D I've been thinking about it quite a bit lately and either I am getting wiser the older I get or crazier. Just ain't figured out which one yet or maybe both.
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jussmoi4nao

Quote from: FA on June 12, 2014, 02:38:33 PM
Unfortunately, it's often the good looking ones who suffer most. 'Almost' perfect. Girls who aren't very good looking learn quickly they can't compete, and find other sources of self esteem. Whereas for the good looking girl, the importance of her looks is constantly reinforced everywhere she goes.

Also people are both kinder and more cruel to pretty girls. Other girls are more likely to pick out the pretty one's 'flaws', more than they would a plain girl. Guys sometimes do this too. It's a curse and a blessing. Pretty girls get perks, sure. But in the end, the focus on their appearance hurts.

Uhh this. I don't think I'm 'almost perfect' but yes this.

I get compliments and come ons and catcalls a lot when I go out. And lately I've been making a group of friends and and uhh its such a complicated dynamic. Because A. some if them have no idea I'm trans andthen B. I know they only wanted to be my friend because they think I look interesting/modelesque and I know a coupl of the guys wana sleep with me buuut at the same time they're very catty types and I know theyrewatching for every flaw.

Then there's this guy i been dating a bit who wants me to go on vacay with him and his friends in a few weeks and he's very hipster and a lot of them are trendy, and again, catty I know he's thinking he's going to like...'show me off' and he's even discussed 'sharing me' with a couple of them...so I'm stressed about that. Then there's the fact I'll be camming this year.

And I'm just like...stressed. I know my face like the back of my hand and I know every single thing I don't like about myself that maybe other people don't really notice but to me are dramatically highlighted. I've gotten to the point where I'm obsessed with looks. It dictates my life. As an example, today..me and my mom were at the store and I told her to get me false lashes and she was like "ohh come in with me and pick them out" and I was like "no" so she says "why?" and finally I have to tell her it's because the store had flourescent lighting, which washes me out, makes my eyes look baggy etc and what if somebody I knew saw me blah blah..which is actually the reason I stopped going to my LGBT group...I didn't like the flourescents.

Then there's other stuff about being a girl. I hate old men flirting with me and telling me to 'bend over' (don't ask) for them or or crazy people walking up to me and staring at my tits or redneck guys trying to force me to get in their car etc. etc I hate that stuff and I love it too. That's the terrile thing. I hate that it's become all I'm worth but I love feeling like I'm worth it.

And then there's other things. I guess it's not worse per se. I feel like in a lot of situations I doo get treated better. And I fel more important now somehow. But it's just so stressful. There are things d hate either way ofc, but this is the way I'm on and these are the things I hate about it.
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peky

I hate being a girl just when I get my period !
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Abbyxo on June 12, 2014, 06:35:09 PM
know he's thinking he's going to like...'show me off' and he's even discussed 'sharing me' with a couple of them...so I'm stressed about that.
Abby you are better than to be treated this way. I hope you choose not to go as you are not a party favor. You are a woman with feelings, hopes and dreams. This is a total lack of respect if you think this will happen. I hate to see you even considering going with them now. :(
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jussmoi4nao

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 12, 2014, 06:42:39 PM
Abby you are better than to be treated this way. I hope you choose not to go as you are not a party favor. You are a woman with feelings, hopes and dreams. This is a total lack of respect if you think this will happen. I hate to see you even considering going with them now. :(

Ohh I mean that's not that big a deal to me. I really feel like getting away and then I already toldhim I was open to group stuff at one point. It's not like he'd force me or anything and he's actully really sweet in general, he's just non traditional. Plus we aren't exclusive at all

I'm just worried about making a good impression
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Nero

Quote from: Abbyxo on June 12, 2014, 06:35:09 PM
Quote from: FA on June 12, 2014, 02:38:33 PM
Unfortunately, it's often the good looking ones who suffer most. 'Almost' perfect. Girls who aren't very good looking learn quickly they can't compete, and find other sources of self esteem. Whereas for the good looking girl, the importance of her looks is constantly reinforced everywhere she goes.

Also people are both kinder and more cruel to pretty girls. Other girls are more likely to pick out the pretty one's 'flaws', more than they would a plain girl. Guys sometimes do this too. It's a curse and a blessing. Pretty girls get perks, sure. But in the end, the focus on their appearance hurts.

Uhh this. I don't think I'm 'almost perfect' but yes this.

I get compliments and come ons and catcalls a lot when I go out. And lately I've been making a group of friends and and uhh its such a complicated dynamic. Because A. some if them have no idea I'm trans andthen B. I know they only wanted to be my friend because they think I look interesting/modelesque and I know a coupl of the guys wana sleep with me buuut at the same time they're very catty types and I know theyrewatching for every flaw.

Then there's this guy i been dating a bit who wants me to go on vacay with him and his friends in a few weeks and he's very hipster and a lot of them are trendy, and again, catty I know he's thinking he's going to like...'show me off' and he's even discussed 'sharing me' with a couple of them...so I'm stressed about that. Then there's the fact I'll be camming this year.

And I'm just like...stressed. I know my face like the back of my hand and I know every single thing I don't like about myself that maybe other people don't really notice but to me are dramatically highlighted. I've gotten to the point where I'm obsessed with looks. It dictates my life. As an example, today..me and my mom were at the store and I told her to get me false lashes and she was like "ohh come in with me and pick them out" and I was like "no" so she says "why?" and finally I have to tell her it's because the store had flourescent lighting, which washes me out, makes my eyes look baggy etc and what if somebody I knew saw me blah blah..which is actually the reason I stopped going to my LGBT group...I didn't like the flourescents.

Then there's other stuff about being a girl. I hate old men flirting with me and telling me to 'bend over' (don't ask) for them or or crazy people walking up to me and staring at my tits or redneck guys trying to force me to get in their car etc. etc I hate that stuff and I love it too. That's the terrile thing. I hate that it's become all I'm worth but I love feeling like I'm worth it.

And then there's other things. I guess it's not worse per se. I feel like in a lot of situations I doo get treated better. And I fel more important now somehow. But it's just so stressful. There are things d hate either way ofc, but this is the way I'm on and these are the things I hate about it.


Aww honey, I know. I know. Not that I was any great beauty or anything, but I get it. The attention feels good, but it's also a hassle. And people can be cruel and insulting - like this guy you're dating. Like Jessica said, this guy does not have your best interest at heart. He just wants to use you.

You're a good looking girl, and also trans. And this means there are people looking to exploit you. Don't let em. You are a gorgeous girl. You don't have to do cams or porn or pictures or turn tricks or anything else. If it's what you need until you get on your feet, you can find a good guy to support you. He may be an older guy, and that's okay as long as he respects and cares for you. I have done it. Many girls have done it. You're too good to be used. This guy does not care about you. Hate to say it, but if he's wanting to pass you around as a party favor as Jessica said... he doesn't care. What if something happens to you? What if one of the guys doesn't know you're trans, finds out, and goes berserk?

You're worth so much more than that.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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jussmoi4nao

Quote from: FA on June 12, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Uhh this. I don't think I'm 'almost perfect' but yes this.

I get compliments and come ons and catcalls a lot when I go out. And lately I've been making a group of friends and and uhh its such a complicated dynamic. Because A. some if them have no idea I'm trans andthen B. I know they only wanted to be my friend because they think I look interesting/modelesque and I know a coupl of the guys wana sleep with me buuut at the same time they're very catty types and I know theyrewatching for every flaw.

Then there's this guy i been dating a bit who wants me to go on vacay with him and his friends in a few weeks and he's very hipster and a lot of them are trendy, and again, catty I know he's thinking he's going to like...'show me off' and he's even discussed 'sharing me' with a couple of them...so I'm stressed about that. Then there's the fact I'll be camming this year.

And I'm just like...stressed. I know my face like the back of my hand and I know every single thing I don't like about myself that maybe other people don't really notice but to me are dramatically highlighted. I've gotten to the point where I'm obsessed with looks. It dictates my life. As an example, today..me and my mom were at the store and I told her to get me false lashes and she was like "ohh come in with me and pick them out" and I was like "no" so she says "why?" and finally I have to tell her it's because the store had flourescent lighting, which washes me out, makes my eyes look baggy etc and what if somebody I knew saw me blah blah..which is actually the reason I stopped going to my LGBT group...I didn't like the flourescents.

Then there's other stuff about being a girl. I hate old men flirting with me and telling me to 'bend over' (don't ask) for them or or crazy people walking up to me and staring at my tits or redneck guys trying to force me to get in their car etc. etc I hate that stuff and I love it too. That's the terrile thing. I hate that it's become all I'm worth but I love feeling like I'm worth it.

And then there's other things. I guess it's not worse per se. I feel like in a lot of situations I doo get treated better. And I fel more important now somehow. But it's just so stressful. There are things d hate either way ofc, but this is the way I'm on and these are the things I hate about it.



Aww honey, I know. I know. Not that I was any great beauty or anything, but I get it. The attention feels good, but it's also a hassle. And people can be cruel and insulting - like this guy you're dating. Like Jessica said, this guy does not have your best interest at heart. He just wants to use you.

You're a good looking girl, and also trans. And this means there are people looking to exploit you. Don't let em. You are a gorgeous girl. You don't have to do cams or porn or pictures or turn tricks or anything else. If it's what you need until you get on your feet, you can find a good guy to support you. He may be an older guy, and that's okay as long as he respects and cares for you. I have done it. Many girls have done it. You're too good to be used. This guy does not care about you. Hate to say it, but if he's wanting to pass you around as a party favor as Jessica said... he doesn't care. What if something happens to you? What if one of the guys doesn't know you're trans, finds out, and goes berserk?

You're worth so much more than that.

Wellll I mean I've kind of been prepping myself for camming. My tumblr has a lot of umm...nsfw lol pics lol. But yeahh .I've actually just published my wishlist and gofund me like two weeks ago and i'v already gotten over $300 dollars worth of cash and gifts for very minor stuff. And i got a lot of followers already. So I could do well in that and I'm not very skilled so it seems wise.

But don't worry id never do prostitution. Or even actual porn. But then as for a sugar daddy, like you said, I don't know.. I've considered it and talkedwith some nice guys. But. I just worry with that that it'll bethe same tging...I'll be dependent on him. And I'm really tired of needing people. Iwant to dosomething on my own. Andthen with a sugar daddy what if he ends updisgusting me? Then I actually have to let him touch m not just look at me. So thats a worry. I mean I dunno I may still try that I'll have to see.

Out but then with the guy, I don't know. We're not in love so I'm not that worried. I think he does care about me in his way and he's always very sweet and complimentary  and he's not at all sexually forceful. I think igave you the wrong impression he's a very sweet guy. But yeah I'm not too worried because we're not exclusive. Also his friends are mostly bi and the straight ones are open minded. Tho I know some don't know I'm trans.
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Jessica Merriman

Abby!  :eusa_wall: What are you going to do when your looks fade? How will you live then? Sorry, I just care about you. I am not trying to be mean at all. I am just in Mom mode big time today and want the best for you. :(
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