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Started by calicarly, June 21, 2014, 06:28:17 AM

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shedevilcanada

wow Carly you look so beautiful, the first pic on the left is stunning , please do share pics of your fat transfer , Im thinking of doing it too.  Who did yours?
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alena

Looking beautiful Carly! The FFS was a success. I've always wondered if fat transfers are permanant or do dissipate over time?


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Yasmeen

Quote from: calicarly on February 19, 2015, 05:11:21 PM
And here's a collage of me from different stages of healing at different points along the 5+ months since FFS :) the middle pic is me before my brazilian butt lift procedure I just had done at the end of January to enhance my curves (lipo to mid section, fat transfer to hips and ass) I might share some pics of that later on if anyone has any interest, it's been 3 weeks and I still can't sit down lol but I am ever so close to getting back to the normal routine... Phew! Anyhow!

Lotsa hugs!!

Carly xx



Carly

I love your results Carly! Prety you! Your collage made me wonder what the first six months post-op are like in terms of changes in your face. Am I asking too much if ask you to summarize each month? Do you look like what you thought you would look like when you were 1 month post-op? Is the top/left pic the oldest one? Are you wearing more make-up on that one? Sorry to ask, but I wonder why that pic looks different (more so than the other pics compared to each other I think).

Speaking about pics makes me think about 'angles'. I'm not sure if you had an 'angle-problem' before FFS (I guess you know what I mean) and I wonder if FFS took care of that completely?

Good for you that you did the brazilian butt lift! Please tell us all about it! Where did you have it done and how much did it cost? Not being able to sit down for 3 weeks.. oh well.. for me that sounds like SRS and been there done that LOL. We do what we gotta do, don't we? Glad you're close to getting back to the normal routine though!

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calicarly

Quote from: shedevilcanada on February 19, 2015, 07:59:53 PM
wow Carly you look so beautiful, the first pic on the left is stunning , please do share pics of your fat transfer , Im thinking of doing it too.  Who did yours?

Quote from: alena on February 20, 2015, 06:37:28 AM
Looking beautiful Carly! The FFS was a success. I've always wondered if fat transfers are permanant or do dissipate over time?

Hi girlies!

Thank you much-ly darlings.

What happens with the fat after transfer varies from person to person, but there are some generalised rules that apply to most people.

At least some 50% of the transferred fat will survive to be permanent, that number increases up to around 80% if you have a really experienced Dr, you take care of yourself well postoperatively by not putting pressure on the area and taking things easy for a good 3 weeks, and some good luck thrown in there. Anything above 50% of transferred fat survival and you will see a good difference and have your money's worth anyway, combined with the lipo which really has given me a very nice and small mid section, it just makes the results that much more noticeable by comparison. Maybe I'll start a new thread altogether on the subject. I asked my bf to help me make some before and after collages to share. I guess I would have to start it in the general mtf topics area though cause this is the FFS section. I had the procedure done in Belgium, I had to go see Dr Bart for my post op. So I consulted with a surgeon while I was there, who was surprised at how much nice ready to harvest fat I had (lmao) and he assured me I could see nice results from It. I did originally enquire about hip implants as well, as this was my main area of concern (I already had a big butt, I mainly wanted some added to my hips). After being explained all the possible side effects vs benefits, I decided to give the BBL (Brazilian Butt Lift) a try first. Things are going very, very good at 3 1/2 weeks on. Swelling has now subsided and I should have lost some volume from the transfer but all and all I would say I still have most of it! Yay!

3 months on, whatever you see is yours permanently. I was gonna continue but Jeez there's so much info. Let me look into starting a new thread ladies! Cause this may be seen as hijacking my own thread with a different subject lol :)

Carly.
Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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alena

Thanks Carly, that's very interesting, I better start piling on the pounds - now where's that chocolate bar  ;)


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calicarly

Quote from: Yasmeen on February 20, 2015, 05:44:54 PM
I love your results Carly! Prety you! Your collage made me wonder what the first six months post-op are like in terms of changes in your face. Am I asking too much if ask you to summarize each month? Do you look like what you thought you would look like when you were 1 month post-op? Is the top/left pic the oldest one? Are you wearing more make-up on that one? Sorry to ask, but I wonder why that pic looks different (more so than the other pics compared to each other I think).

Speaking about pics makes me think about 'angles'. I'm not sure if you had an 'angle-problem' before FFS (I guess you know what I mean) and I wonder if FFS took care of that completely?

Good for you that you did the brazilian butt lift! Please tell us all about it! Where did you have it done and how much did it cost? Not being able to sit down for 3 weeks.. oh well.. for me that sounds like SRS and been there done that LOL. We do what we gotta do, don't we? Glad you're close to getting back to the normal routine though!

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Yasmeen,

Here goes!

Month 1. felt like forever waiting for my eyeballs bruising to clear up. I realised there was slurring speech problems etc etc, people constantly asked what happened to me even though I only went out to do things that are necessary. I also bit my lip constantly by mistake.

Month 2. Things started settling a lot but the brusising to the sclera of the eye was slowly shrinking and so I was avoiding going out too much apart from the necessary until all this cleared up .swelling really makes progress at this stage. Family were asking if my lip and speech problem would go away. But eu also started mentioning how nice I looked, people close to you will notice how much of a difference FFS has made for you. My bf commented on how different I looked whenever looking at me on profile while watching TV, he said if I didn't know what you had done or why its like you look younger or something.

Month 3. Finally all bruising had completely cleared out at this point. I started enjoying the benefits of FFS and socialising a little more again. It's good still taking it easy if you can. Although I always loved makeup, I had a new found love for it at this point. Problems with speech etc seemed to go away for the most part at the 3rd month. A friend said. Wow your new dark hair (at the time) seems to bring your eyes out... Lol it wasn't the dark hair.

Month 4things truly have settled the most by now, particularly with chin and jaw. Some people who you don't see often will say you look "well" but they don't seem to be able to point out why you do. Some might say there's something kind of different about you also :) . some clothing choices you love but think were too risky or over the top or maybe too boring seem all a lot more wearable. I don't need to wear something with cleavage to feel very feminine, or makeup. All for obvious reasons! Even boring pj's are ok. No need to try too hard or stay in the safe zone while on a night out.

5 months+ : part of me feels like I can still see small amounts of settling to areas of my face. I am very used to my face now since FFS and hardly remember how things were before unless I look at pics. I think at this point you know wether you are happy or not with your results. From the past 5 months of experience I feel like I can expect more and more settling in the months to come. I do feel prettier the more the facial tissues settle and I have find that I am doing my make up slightly differently. My face is soo rounded and I do have big cheeks. Before FFS I didn't wear bronzer much as I felt it hardened my face. Now. I use it to give my big squirrel cheeks some definition and give my face more of a sophisticated grown up look so don't be surprised if you make changes to your makeup routine. Same like wih clothing, you can be more understated than usual and still feel feminine enough, or going OTT and not feeling like you're gonna get the wrong kind of attention for it.

I do think I had angle problems before FFS. I always felt like I looked good and acceptable with bangs/fringe, once I booked my FFS and I let them grow out I really could see my forehead didn't look right without em.my profile was always an issue. I didn't like pics taken of me like that. I don't worry about that nowadays. I do think my left side is slightly. Better than the right but that just seems down to I dont know what! Lol I am now thinking weather a more modern or layered haircut would look good rather than my long blunt cut hair. Not sure yet.

Yes the brazilian butt lift is a butt kicker (pun intended) for recovery. I am going to start to sit down in the next few days, but it will be a gradual back to normal process. I know my knees, elbows and even neck will really thank me once normal routine is back! I would say that considering all the swelling I had and all I must still have 90% of the transferred fat, the waist line/ abdomen keep going down more and more as things settle too so we'll see how things finish up!

Any questions you might have about the FFS i am happy to answer YASMEEN, before mine, I found a lot of helpful ideas and guidance through this site and I told myself I would post my experience In hopes it might help others with readiness and expectations, etc.!

Hugs!


Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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calicarly

Quote from: alena on February 21, 2015, 09:06:57 AM
Thanks Carly, that's very interesting, I better start piling on the pounds - now where's that chocolate bar  ;)

Ha ha! Yes! they played a big part in the bootay.. What is nice about about BBL is that it's still all you, it's your own fat just moved around!
Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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Yasmeen

Quote from: calicarly on February 21, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Yasmeen,

Here goes!

Month 1. felt like forever waiting for my eyeballs bruising to clear up. I realised there was slurring speech problems etc etc, people constantly asked what happened to me even though I only went out to do things that are necessary. I also bit my lip constantly by mistake.

Month 2. Things started settling a lot but the brusising to the sclera of the eye was slowly shrinking and so I was avoiding going out too much apart from the necessary until all this cleared up .swelling really makes progress at this stage. Family were asking if my lip and speech problem would go away. But eu also started mentioning how nice I looked, people close to you will notice how much of a difference FFS has made for you. My bf commented on how different I looked whenever looking at me on profile while watching TV, he said if I didn't know what you had done or why its like you look younger or something.

Month 3. Finally all bruising had completely cleared out at this point. I started enjoying the benefits of FFS and socialising a little more again. It's good still taking it easy if you can. Although I always loved makeup, I had a new found love for it at this point. Problems with speech etc seemed to go away for the most part at the 3rd month. A friend said. Wow your new dark hair (at the time) seems to bring your eyes out... Lol it wasn't the dark hair.

Month 4things truly have settled the most by now, particularly with chin and jaw. Some people who you don't see often will say you look "well" but they don't seem to be able to point out why you do. Some might say there's something kind of different about you also :) . some clothing choices you love but think were too risky or over the top or maybe too boring seem all a lot more wearable. I don't need to wear something with cleavage to feel very feminine, or makeup. All for obvious reasons! Even boring pj's are ok. No need to try too hard or stay in the safe zone while on a night out.

5 months+ : part of me feels like I can still see small amounts of settling to areas of my face. I am very used to my face now since FFS and hardly remember how things were before unless I look at pics. I think at this point you know wether you are happy or not with your results. From the past 5 months of experience I feel like I can expect more and more settling in the months to come. I do feel prettier the more the facial tissues settle and I have find that I am doing my make up slightly differently. My face is soo rounded and I do have big cheeks. Before FFS I didn't wear bronzer much as I felt it hardened my face. Now. I use it to give my big squirrel cheeks some definition and give my face more of a sophisticated grown up look so don't be surprised if you make changes to your makeup routine. Same like wih clothing, you can be more understated than usual and still feel feminine enough, or going OTT and not feeling like you're gonna get the wrong kind of attention for it.

I do think I had angle problems before FFS. I always felt like I looked good and acceptable with bangs/fringe, once I booked my FFS and I let them grow out I really could see my forehead didn't look right without em.my profile was always an issue. I didn't like pics taken of me like that. I don't worry about that nowadays. I do think my left side is slightly. Better than the right but that just seems down to I dont know what! Lol I am now thinking weather a more modern or layered haircut would look good rather than my long blunt cut hair. Not sure yet.

Yes the brazilian butt lift is a butt kicker (pun intended) for recovery. I am going to start to sit down in the next few days, but it will be a gradual back to normal process. I know my knees, elbows and even neck will really thank me once normal routine is back! I would say that considering all the swelling I had and all I must still have 90% of the transferred fat, the waist line/ abdomen keep going down more and more as things settle too so we'll see how things finish up!

Any questions you might have about the FFS i am happy to answer YASMEEN, before mine, I found a lot of helpful ideas and guidance through this site and I told myself I would post my experience In hopes it might help others with readiness and expectations, etc.!

Hugs!

Thanks so much for sharing Carly! If people asked what happened to you what did you tell them?

Did you colour your hair dark for a reason? Dark looks very good on you, but so does blonde. You're very lucky!

'People who you don't see often will say you look "well" but they don't seem to be able to point out why you do'. How weird is that! I guess it makes sense though.

I never thought about changes to make-up routine but after reading what you wrote it makes a lot of sense!

Sounds like you have less worries now that you had FFS and recovered from it so that's great! I'm so happy for you.

How's sitting Carly?? You poor thing went from one recovery into another! Most people would probable ask how you could do that to yourself, but given the fact that I TOTALLY get that, I'm not going to. Who's the surgeon you had the Brazilian Butt Lift with? I'm considering that surgery too and to have it in Antwerp would just be PERFECT. Did you start a seperate thread about the BBL? I wouldn't mind seeing some pics :)

Take care x
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Yasmeen

Was it dr Oelbrandt by any chance Carly?
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f_Anna_tastic

Hi carly,

Thanks for the great thread.  Manchester girl here too :)

I have my FFS with Dr Bart 3 weeks today.  I'm having forehead, hairline, orbital rims, nose, corners of chin and jaw done.

How did you find the mental aspect of your recovery? What advice would have liked to have known before you had the surgery? Have you any regrets about Dr Bart himself?

I stumbled across this link: http://www.realself.com/review/antwerp-belgium-cheek-augmentation-horrible-experience-cheek-implants-dr-bart

and am now slightly worried :/
"What do you fear, lady?" he asked.
"A cage," she said. "To stay behind bars until use and old age accept them, and all chance of doing great deeds is gone beyond recall or desire."
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voodle

I had FFS with Dr Bart about 2 1/2 years ago, here are some pictures since they're far better than what you'd find of me on Dr Bart's site: http://imgur.com/a/Gytar
I consider myself one of his happier customers, at this point, though I got quite depressed while recovering, but that was more to do with work things and general tiredness from recovery resulting in a bad state.

Personally I think he's good and haven't seen that side of him that the realself page describes - cheek implants go wrong a Lot though and they are painful to heal up from so that's probably not helping things.

I'm going to him again for rhinoplasty and also a revision on my forehead in 6 weeks - he's been fairly good about that I think, he wasn't so interested when I brought it up at the 4 month consultation but I went to another consultation with him a month ago and he was a lot more positive about sorting it out so not sure what to think there, what he said at the consultation all pretty much fit what I was after this time.
He was nicer to me now that I'm presenting female and since I was scared going out in girl mode prior to ffs, he wasn't quite sure what to think of me while I was presenting androgynously back then, but still professional.

I've only had one 3 hour surgery (forehead & lip lift) so what I was coping with (face all swollen and tired with mild pain) will be quite different from what you'll be recovering from so I can't really comment on that too much :)
I know a girl that had surgery with Dr Bart last year, she had forehead, rhinoplasty and lip lift and had a really rough time recovering on her own in a hotel room, apparently the nurse you can hire isn't that helpful if you need much more than checking on to make sure you're alive once a day. She was really badly affected by the general anesthetic though so that might be an exception.
If you're going alone (I am), make sure to prepare food - and since you're getting jaw surgery it would need to be soft food. The swelling and bruising can be pretty bad to start with so get enough food to last a few days.
Have some decent concealer ready, I had really bad bruising around my eyes that lasted for weeks, long after the swelling went down.
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shedevilcanada

Quote from: voodle on April 16, 2015, 05:47:30 PM
He was nicer to me now that I'm presenting female and since I was scared going out in girl mode prior to ffs, he wasn't quite sure what to think of me while I was presenting androgynously back then, but still professional.

seems that a lot of surgeons are indifferent in your request for FFS when u dont present yourself as female. I had that problem with many surgeons when they see u dress as a boy or androgeneous. Its sad that they judge you and dont take you seriously. The $$$$ are the same.
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Dash

Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on April 16, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
Hi carly,

Thanks for the great thread.  Manchester girl here too :)

I have my FFS with Dr Bart 3 weeks today.  I'm having forehead, hairline, orbital rims, nose, corners of chin and jaw done.

How did you find the mental aspect of your recovery? What advice would have liked to have known before you had the surgery? Have you any regrets about Dr Bart himself?

I stumbled across this link: http://www.realself.com/review/antwerp-belgium-cheek-augmentation-horrible-experience-cheek-implants-dr-bart

and am now slightly worried :/

I had surgery with him six months ago, and to be entirely honest, I was very disappointed with the final result and it sent me into a deep depression. I still get misgendered just as often as I did before the surgery, except now I have a top lip with severe overbite and a nose that I breathe worse through as added bonuses.

I did a review of his work in another thread and in retrospect I feel I was being kind to him. I was supposed to have a browlift, which looking back through old photos seems no different and I swear my jaw wasn't operated on at all (which I was charged for).
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calicarly

Quote from: Yasmeen on March 19, 2015, 07:05:07 AM
Was it dr Oelbrandt by any chance Carly?

Hi YASMEEN, it was Dr Doornaert in Ghent, sorry for the late reply.
Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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calicarly

Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on April 16, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
Hi carly,

Thanks for the great thread.  Manchester girl here too :)

I have my FFS with Dr Bart 3 weeks today.  I'm having forehead, hairline, orbital rims, nose, corners of chin and jaw done.

How did you find the mental aspect of your recovery? What advice would have liked to have known before you had the surgery? Have you any regrets about Dr Bart himself?

I stumbled across this link: http://www.realself.com/review/antwerp-belgium-cheek-augmentation-horrible-experience-cheek-implants-dr-bart

and am now slightly worried :/

Well,
I can speak from personal experience, I am happier now with my face than I was before surgery, bad results or results that aren't up to expectations do happen, but I would consider that common sense and something that I would say it's to be accepted as part of a process. I I am not aware of him having any more or less success rate than other FFS Drs, all I know is my experience.

If I was to be picky I would say I "might" think about my nose doing again or maybe a small improvement to the forehead as well, but to be honest I am happier now than I was before surgery. I think the pics speak for themselves.
Quote from: Dash on April 21, 2015, 06:06:24 PM
I had surgery with him six months ago, and to be entirely honest, I was very disappointed with the final result and it sent me into a deep depression. I still get misgendered just as often as I did before the surgery, except now I have a top lip with severe overbite and a nose that I breathe worse through as added bonuses.

I did a review of his work in another thread and in retrospect I feel I was being kind to him. I was supposed to have a browlift, which looking back through old photos seems no different and I swear my jaw wasn't operated on at all (which I was charged for).

Sad to hear things aren't looking up for you Dash :(  I might need a facelift a few years down the line too btw as the tissue around my chin is def somewhat loose.  I just think that I did get much of an improvement in my case even with these small imperfections... Is there something else giving you away for the mis gendering? Like a really deep voice? Xx

Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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calicarly

Quote from: voodle on April 16, 2015, 05:47:30 PM
I had FFS with Dr Bart about 2 1/2 years ago, here are some pictures since they're far better than what you'd find of me on Dr Bart's site: http://imgur.com/a/Gytar
I consider myself one of his happier customers, at this point, though I got quite depressed while recovering, but that was more to do with work things and general tiredness from recovery resulting in a bad state.

Personally I think he's good and haven't seen that side of him that the realself page describes - cheek implants go wrong a Lot though and they are painful to heal up from so that's probably not helping things.

I'm going to him again for rhinoplasty and also a revision on my forehead in 6 weeks - he's been fairly good about that I think, he wasn't so interested when I brought it up at the 4 month consultation but I went to another consultation with him a month ago and he was a lot more positive about sorting it out so not sure what to think there, what he said at the consultation all pretty much fit what I was after this time.
He was nicer to me now that I'm presenting female and since I was scared going out in girl mode prior to ffs, he wasn't quite sure what to think of me while I was presenting androgynously back then, but still professional.

I've only had one 3 hour surgery (forehead & lip lift) so what I was coping with (face all swollen and tired with mild pain) will be quite different from what you'll be recovering from so I can't really comment on that too much :)
I know a girl that had surgery with Dr Bart last year, she had forehead, rhinoplasty and lip lift and had a really rough time recovering on her own in a hotel room, apparently the nurse you can hire isn't that helpful if you need much more than checking on to make sure you're alive once a day. She was really badly affected by the general anesthetic though so that might be an exception.
If you're going alone (I am), make sure to prepare food - and since you're getting jaw surgery it would need to be soft food. The swelling and bruising can be pretty bad to start with so get enough food to last a few days.
Have some decent concealer ready, I had really bad bruising around my eyes that lasted for weeks, long after the swelling went down.

Hi Hun, I've seen your pics before and always thought you look like a nice person just by them, if that makes any sense. :)  I myself might end up with having a small revision or 2, I could tell Dr Bart wanted to see me for the 1 year post op. He was like... I wanna see you again to see how things look then, I think he himself might wanna improve a couple of little things.  Wishing you the best for this, the Piccard clinic is really nice, and he is now back there as an owner, so it should be a nice experience.

Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on April 16, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
Hi carly,

Thanks for the great thread.  Manchester girl here too :)

I have my FFS with Dr Bart 3 weeks today.  I'm having forehead, hairline, orbital rims, nose, corners of chin and jaw done.

How did you find the mental aspect of your recovery? What advice would have liked to have known before you had the surgery? Have you any regrets about Dr Bart himself?

I stumbled across this link: http://www.realself.com/review/antwerp-belgium-cheek-augmentation-horrible-experience-cheek-implants-dr-bart

and am now slightly worried :/

Hi Darling!

This might sound like a weird comment but a lovely and pretty girl who no longer hangs around Susans warned me of one thing no one else ever mentioned to me and it was 100% true, with chin, jaw, and nose work, there will be a lot of blood that will have gotten swallowed and will be the only thing in your tummy, that, anaesthetic, and pain killers all together will make you feel sick for a while after surgery and you will probably end up throwing up what looks like BLACK bloody, barf, if it does happen, don't get scared or worry!

Mentally, yeah, I was drained for the first few weeks, emotional, and felt like I would never look normal again, but I just kept reminding myself it was all part of a process. Those feelings also were mainly due to healing, your body affects your mind. And maybe seeing yourself looking different does have an impact on its own.

Like voodle,, I consider myself one of the happier patients. I never overshot my expectations and have also been very patient. I do genuinely feel like once I go to my 1 year post op, Dr Bart and I will decide wether any small revisions are needed. It's now been 8 months. And most of the settling is done. Just don't be impatient, I know it's almost a strange thing to ask, but try to enjoy the positive changes more than nitpicking at what might be wrong or it can all spiral down into something that shouldn't be so. Let time do its thing. wishing you the best for your surgery, please keep us updated and don't be afraid of hijacking my thread. Any more questions feel free to ask Hun. Hugs xx
Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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voodle

haha the pictures that Dr Bart has of me on his site are dreadful, and since I'm still on his site in a sense I'm keen to replace those pictures with new ones. I wish I was as pretty as you but that's probably not going to happen regardless of surgery so I can see why Dr Bart is interested in you :) I do hope that he will care more than last time but we'll see in a few weeks.

I'm quite looking forward to the new - on-site accomodation having stayed in some random flat in ghent before, that will save on the stressful travel for the first check up and since it has air-con, will hopefully be much nicer to stay in. I'm not entirely sure whether the cheap single rooms have a desk or not but n/m if iit doesn't i'm preparing for either.

Also that message on facebook about that patient :( so sad, I hope that doesn't happen any more often but that's the risk of general anesthesia and major surgery unfortunately, I'm glad it was posted on there before anyone could make any claims on there and I think it's the right thing for him to do.
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Alessandra29

Quick question for Amy, Carly, and Dash....
Do you feel as though you were on an assembly line when being operated by doctor Bart, I know its becoming more common for plastic surgeons to do multiple surgeries per day, but what are your conclusions about this.
As well to Amy and Carly do you believe agreeing to being on Dr. Bart's site help to motivate him into giving a better result.

Dash, if you're concerned about your jaw, do an x-Ray and compare it to the previous.(Get a revision if need be)
As for the review on realself, the person in question is a real wack job, they had a blog up showing photographs, and they did not look horribly bad post op. As well, I recognized their face from someone here on Susan's who posted a photograph in which they detailed how they wanted a face very similar to that of a celebrity's.(Never a good idea when getting plastic surgery)
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Alessandra29

QuoteThis might sound like a weird comment but a lovely and pretty girl who no longer hangs around Susans warned me of one thing no one else ever mentioned to me and it was 100% true, with chin, jaw, and nose work, there will be a lot of blood that will have gotten swallowed and will be the only thing in your tummy, that, anaesthetic, and pain killers all together will make you feel sick for a while after surgery and you will probably end up throwing up what looks like BLACK bloody, barf, if it does happen, don't get scared or worry!

I can personally attest to this, I had nasal and throat surgery as a child and I remember bafring up something that looked like coffee and coffee grounds, not pretty at all.
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SofieG

Quote from: Alessandra29 on May 01, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
As well to Amy and Carly do you believe agreeing to being on Dr. Bart's site help to motivate him into giving a better result.

This is normally being discussed at the 4 month post op consultation I think, so no it doesn't help to motivate him into giving a better result. I don't know what happens if you decide to discuss it before your surgery, but I'm pretty sure that Dr Bart always tries to get the best result, wether pictures will be on his website or not.
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