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I can't see a future with my family and it breaks my heart

Started by onelostlonelysoul, June 30, 2014, 02:37:35 PM

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onelostlonelysoul

Hey everyone,  this is going to be a long one  but I really need some advice. 
I come from a pretty messed up family , they all hate each other , always trying to steal one anothers money or property
Theres family members that hardly know me and have never spoken to me , or like my auntie,  they just plain hate me. They believe my mothers sins were cast down on to me because I was born with disabilities.
I have always been an embarrassment to them.
     My mother gave birth to me at 16 . Not only were her and my father not married but my father was white irish, ( my mums family are iraqi,  they were horrified when they found out.)  My father was abusive and I have nothing to do with him .
Growing up I was taken in to the care of my greatgrandparents when I was 3,  I lived there until I was 13 . I had little contact with my mother growing up and when shed left me I was her perfect only arabic speaking muslim daughter. At 13 I came out as her son.she didn't really know that id picked a  male name at 7, or that all my friends were boys, or that I constantly asked to wear boys clothes.
She new I didn't like dresses , that was it.
Between 13 and 15 I made eight suicide attempts and started abusing substances. I was sent to a psychiatric hospital for six months and when I came out I moved in with her. She tried to make me into her daughter,  by insulting me , calling me a freak , at one point she said I wasn't her child because "she gave birth to a girl. " several times she threatened to take me to the nearest youth hostel and leave me there unless I "changed my ways" and "stopped being f****d in the head" .
Ive tried several times to be perfect but no matter what I do im always doing something wrong,  I didn't clean well enough or I look like a tramp. Or im "soo white" (she means this in a derogatory way to white people, she also uses extremely insulting language about black people and women who are raped)
my family also have a pretty messed up sense ot humour.  Like my uncle will always put me in a headlock  to "greet" me ,
Occasionally my mother will say to me , "im going to kill you. I think it'd be fun." Although she says it jokingly, .
I feel like I can't be myself around my  family and I can't see them being in my future.  So many people have told me to leave them.  But theyre my family, 
They do say they "love" me. But can I believe them ?
Help?
All the great religions are ships and poets are the life boats,every sane man i know has jumped overboard- hafiz
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LordKAT

It doesn't sound like such a loving family to me. Do you have any place you can go to to get away?
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Edge

Quote from: onelostlonelysoul on June 30, 2014, 02:37:35 PM
They do say they "love" me. But can I believe them ?
Help?
No. They are abusive and I very much hope you don't have a future with them. Is there a safe and more supporting place you can go? If there is, please try to get there. If there isn't, please try not to take their behaviour to heart. How they treat you is about who they are and not who you are.
I understand it's hard because they're your family, but you deserve to be treated much better than that and I am worried for your safety.
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Monkeymel

How do your grandparents treat you? It seems there might be a safe have  there?
Getting yourself onto an even balance in life may require opening up to a therapist - a good one - just to help you sort all the family issues washing around in your head.

Unfortunately we cannot choose our family - only our friends. And then ideally those who listen impartially and help pick you up through genuine positive reinforcement. There are a lot of lost souls here abouts; but if you can find the strength and courage to hold your head high without triggering your immediate family then you will prevail. It might take time - some of us many years - but we carry our inner knowledge until it blossoms. Or turn 18.

Try to find some peace for a while: maybe a summer camp with some meditation. If you have the strength of balance no one can topple you.
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onelostlonelysoul

My great grandfather died last year and my great grandmother has a lot of health issues although she is the nicest to me I think shes always kind of known. After all she did see me the most.  My mother even blames her for "causing "me. Anyway
I couldn't live there (I dont think) purely cause of my grandmothers health , but I stay at her house for a weekend onece a month, so maybe more regular stays? Or ive got a lot of musical instruments there I could always say I was going to practice?
Thank you everyone.  Its hard to know what to do because part of it still feels like my fault.
All the great religions are ships and poets are the life boats,every sane man i know has jumped overboard- hafiz
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Emily1996

I'm sorry for the struggles you have to go through, my mom is similar to yours, she is muslim but black and married a white western man from Italy, so she always calls me mames for not being dark like her, and its like she hates me and doesnt understand... You should try to seek a safer space, maybe get a job, save money and leave... I dont know where you live or your agr do I cant make better advices... I hope everything will go well for you
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: onelostlonelysoul on July 01, 2014, 03:11:15 AM
Its hard to know what to do because part of it still feels like my fault.
First, it is not your fault, period. People tend to blame others for their failures and unrealized dreams. You need to be in a safe and supportive environment. Would your Grandmother help you find somewhere else to live to protect you even if she can't? A trusted friend perhaps?
Anyway, get the thought's out of your head that you are to blame as that is not the case at all. You were unfortunately born into a very dysfunctional family unit and need to leave it to heal and grow. Get creative in your thinking. Is there a boarding school you could attend or advanced education opportunity such as college? Are there live in trade schools in the area? Use the negativity you feel to empower yourself to make a change. You have the chance to break the cycle and live without conflict, but it will take hard work. :)
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pianoforte

I also have an abusive family, who are not understanding and do the playful "I'm going to kill you" thing as well.

I have been thinking about no longer having contact with them, but at the same time I have been more able recently to make contact on my own terms (I am 25 and no longer dependent on them, though I do occasionally ask for financial help).

It really might be the best and safest option to part ways with your family in the future. Some people will never accept you or treat you right, and sometimes those people are meant to become part of your past. But only you know your situation.

Even if they don't cause physical harm to you, there is psychological harm being done because of the emotional abuse you are dealing with. You don't deserve to have to deal with that.

You do deserve to be treated with respect, kindness, and love by those around you. I hope that you find people who will treat you right, to become a part of your chosen family.

I know that not talking to family anymore is painful to start with, but as I went away to college my talking to my family just naturally became less and less frequent. It didn't hurt, it was just a natural process. At this point, if I was financially stable (not quite but I'm hoping soon!) I would be easily able to cut off contact altogether without a lot of emotional strain for me. The only person I still really talk to in my family is my mother, who is kind of a black sheep (and also who I can't live with due to her health, heh).

It is possible to keep up one relationship and drop others. I still see my aunt occasionally, but my uncle-by-marriage (who lives with her) I rarely ever see or talk to, even when I go over there. In addition to me being vigilant, she helps protect me from seeing him because she knows I do not want to. That is how family members should treat you.

*hugs*
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Felix

No. This is horrible. My gosh, no. No. What do you need family for? Are they meeting those needs, and is the damage they cause overwhelmed by the love they give? Do you think you can make that calculation sanely or safely?

I had exorcisms performed on me when I was young, because I would blurt out my fears in vocal tics, or maybe because I tried to be a boy, or maybe because I would sleepwalk, or maybe because I didn't look like my mother and father, or maybe because I was overly sensitive to secular influences. Even in hindsight, it's not clear what I did wrong, but I obviously did something wrong.

It took me a long time (any amount of time is too much) to understand that my family was unhealthy and that their behaviors were damaging me. Even my "stand-in" families were often awful, because I didn't know what to look for or how to recognize viciousness. It took many tries to get away for good, but I am so much happier without them. Most people don't want to face the prospect of being unloved, but isolation is better than abuse. You can make friends and create other relationships. You can love yourself better than they ever will.

The happiest time of my life was when I was sleeping under overpasses and getting coffee at youth centers, because I hadn't realized up until then that anyone was allowed to pick out their own clothes without being beaten or yelled at. Seriously, you should not let anyone else control your life.
everybody's house is haunted
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LordKAT

Oi Felix, that brings back memories. I remember when I first learned that I'm allowed to hang up the phone, I don't have to listen to the abuse. but then, I was like a kid at Disney the first time I went into a grocery store. Not my fault I was 18 (or maybe 17) the first time.
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Felix

Quote from: LordKAT on July 03, 2014, 04:01:53 AM
I remember when I first learned that I'm allowed to hang up the phone, I don't have to listen to the abuse. but then, I was like a kid at Disney the first time I went into a grocery store. Not my fault I was 18 (or maybe 17) the first time.
Yeah I think this kind of thing is hard to recognize when it's all you ever see. I think the internet is a miracle for how it can show anyone what life is like beyond their smallest community.
everybody's house is haunted
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Bombadil

I suspect in their own messed up, unhealthy way, that my family does love me. It doesn't matter. They are still abusive and unhealthy. I can't be around them without becoming self-destructive. In the last two years, since I have basically cut contact my life has gotten so much better. I hope you can listen to the stories we are sharing and realize it's ok to take care of yourself. You do not deserve the abuse. You deserve to do what's right for you. It is not your fault.

Quote from: LordKAT on July 03, 2014, 04:01:53 AM
Oi Felix, that brings back memories. I remember when I first learned that I'm allowed to hang up the phone, I don't have to listen to the abuse.

Amazing feeling isn't it?






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Amadeus

You're in a very abusive situation, my friend.  Your family should never make threats against you, never call you a freak, never make you feel ashamed for things that are beyond your control.

You need to get out.  Now.

I know it's painful.  But in order to survive - and thrive - you must do what's best for you.  It's pretty obvious that your family only cares about what makes them happy and what meets their needs.  Your needs mean nothing to them.  Maybe many years from now when they're older and hopefully wiser, they might come around and act like decent human beings.  But right now you need to move on.

And I say this as someone who has walked away from my own family, a group of people who bullied me my entire life for not conforming to their standards, not just regarding gender identity and gender roles, either.  My own brother threatened to kill me more than once and watch me die a slow, painful, terrifying death.  He always did it with a sick smirk on his face, too.  Dude is fifty shades of ->-bleeped-<-ed up.  My mother is a co-dependent and an enabler.  My dad is an alcoholic who refuses to deal with anything but a bottle of vodka.  So I'm not really missing much.  Except my cat.  My cat is awesome.

There was, and sometimes still is, a lingering affection for my family.  We weren't always messed up.  We used to be somewhat okay and I miss that occasionally.  But then when I think about how their bullying screwed me up, all the anxiety I have, how it's affected my life, and how much money I'm paying for therapy now...  Yeah, those feels just go right out the door!

Go.  Find your own way in the world, my friend.  Make some friends.  Find your own family, among people who think you're great just for being yourself.  It's an amazing feeling to have those kinds of people around you.  Best of luck!
 
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michelle

Living with my birth family was like living in an emotionally active earthquake zone.   There was always some drama with Budweiser, Johnnie Walker, and Jack Daniels as a supporting cast.   I coped by going to school every day and getting an education so that I could support myself when I graduated from high school.   Thank God for Sputnik and the National Defense Student Loans I was able to escape to college.   We were a poor family with my mom and stepdad not graduating from high school.   My dad did because he was on the orphan train, but he died when I was 13.   I hid my female self and was as butch as I could possibly be, not having a male ego.  I was lucky I had a brain because I had little athletic ability, but I tried because it kept me out of the house after school.   I struggled my way through college, finally graduating despite my lack of intellectual stimulation at home.   I learned to think because of my intellectual New England Congregational Pastor and his son who was my best friend in high school.   This all took place in the 1950s and 1950s in small towns in the Dakotas.   When I left home for college, I was too broke, and not inspired to go home except for Thanksgiving and Christmas.   This is how I dealt with my family the rest of my life, hoping life would be better, but it never was.    My parents were pushing up daisies and I was over a thousand miles from the rest of my family including my own children and ex when I finally dealt with the fact that I was a transexual grandma and started living 24/7/365 as my bitch lady self.   I am out via the internet to everyone, and I am surviving off of Social Security from the days I was a butch elementary and middle school teacher.   I lost a lot of years being myself and my male hormones have recked havoc with my body, and there are lots of people who can out me if I try to go stealth, I just live with the fact that I am a transexual grandma, and not just a grandma.   I have hopes of being able in the near future being able to take hormones and maybe have surgery at maybe 68 or 69 years old if health permits, because Medicare no longer blocks insurance companies from transitioning.    I will have to see what my insurance company does, because now it will not cover transitioning services.   They have not sent out a rider changing this policy, though Medicare has changed it.  I walk through life as if it's a Dakota blizzard.   I bundle up emotionally, put my head into the wind and walk to my destination as if my life depends upon it.   I have learned that most people spend their lives looking out for themselves, being who and what they want to be,  and us older sister types have to look after ourselves first, so we can take care of others.

I think you should look after yourself, and become an independent person, keeping contact with your family, showing up for what family gatherings, you can emotionally stand.   I tried to stay at my folks place when I visited because we didn't have much money, and small towns in the Dakotas don't have many public places to stay in town.   This was probably a mistake for me,  because it was hard on my family.   But eventually my marriage fell apart, and I began to realize that many of the years I tried to live as butch were just a waste of time, because if my ex would have refused to live with me as my female self, then the end of the marriage would have made more sense, and it would have been easier for me to deal with it emotionally.

I include most of these details to fill in how I dealt with my transitioning and my family because they present some context for how I dealt.   There are no right or wrong decisions.   There are decisions that are more emotionally healthy,  but living with a family which is like an active emotional earthquake zone, has its emotional losses however you deal with it.   If you distance yourself too much like I did, then you never really know your nieces and nephews, and their kids.  You never really know your kid's spouses and your grand kids.   I am not isolated but I have a cis partner with an ever redefined relationship, our eleven year old son, and her 17 year old and 24 year old daughters.   I am out 24/7/365 as a female, but fight there identifying me as a male that dresses and presents as a woman.    We buy dresses and make up together and go to the ladies room together and women's fitting room together, so go figure.   Life is what it is.   

But dealing with your family will be painful and not dealing with your family will be painful.    Building up an emotional wall between you and your family will also have an emotional price because it will block off the pain and the loss which will remain hidden inside of you waiting to break out if ever the wall becomes structurally defective and starts to break down.  You have to find your own healthy pathway to healing yourself emotionally, without becoming self-destructive or harmful to others.     You have to find your own pathway through this dilemma with the help of your own understanding of a merciful, loving, forgiving, and kind God.
Be true to yourself.  The future will reveal itself in its own due time.    Find the calm at the heart of the storm.    I own my womanhood.

I am a 69-year-old transsexual school teacher grandma & lady.   Ethnically I am half Irish  and half Scandinavian.   I can be a real bitch or quite loving and caring.  I have never taken any hormones or had surgery, I am out 24/7/365.
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