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**Trigger Warning** Trans woman brutally attacked in Little Five Points

Started by Xenguy, July 03, 2014, 01:23:43 AM

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JadeLaurenSTorm

I'm with Evelyn on thus one. Had she used common sense it would of perhaps saved her from the beating. I'm not at all saying she shouldn't defend herself but in a pack??? Ya she needs to use better judgement than that.
Jade >:-)
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Lady_Oracle

But it just goes to show the lack of maturity the Atlanta area has. Just last month there was an attack on two trans women on the transit system. No one helped at all, people actually just watched the entire thing unfold. They were chased down and it ended in a beat down. There is a serious problem in this state regarding transphobia. I'd like to get into activism at some point here but until I have my life an order, I can't tackle such huge issue just yet.
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Xenguy

It's not the whole Atlanta area really, Atlanta actually has some good pride movements going on, lots of resources for trans* people, and one of biggest pride parades. :) It's just certain people ((too many if you ask me)) who aren't as educated on the topic of the transgender community. However, then again Atlanta isn't known for being sugar, spice, and everything nice with the trans* community, >.<  Which is why I'm sad because I live close and have faith in it. So I do agree that it needs more activism, the faster we get the word out that we are real people and behavior like this isn't tolerated, the better it will be for the Atlanta trans* community.
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Natasha

Graphic video shows transgender woman being attacked

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/graphic-video-shows-transgender-woman-being-attack/ngY82/
July 4, 2014

ATLANTA —

A video shows an attack in Little 5 Points. There is a confrontation between a transgender woman and a group of men. She yells and verbally confronts the group.

A man stomps on the woman's head in the graphic video.

The attack is alarming to a group called Transgender Individuals Living Their Truth Incorporated also known as TILT Inc. Group members said there has been an increase of attacks on transgender persons lately.
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Lady_Oracle

Quote from: Xenguy on July 04, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
It's not the whole Atlanta area really, Atlanta actually has some good pride movements going on, lots of resources for trans* people, and one of biggest pride parades. :) It's just certain people ((too many if you ask me)) who aren't as educated on the topic of the transgender community. However, then again Atlanta isn't known for being sugar, spice, and everything nice with the trans* community, >.<  Which is why I'm sad because I live close and have faith in it. So I do agree that it needs more activism, the faster we get the word out that we are real people and behavior like this isn't tolerated, the better it will be for the Atlanta trans* community.

Oh yea I definitely agree, I mean thats where my endo is and plus its the one city in Georgia with full lgbt protections but the people are a different story. Nice to see someone else here who is from the Ga! NICE TO MEET YOU Xenguy!!!
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Xenguy

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on July 04, 2014, 09:35:40 PM
Oh yea I definitely agree, I mean thats where my endo is and plus its the one city in Georgia with full lgbt protections but the people are a different story. Nice to see someone else here who is from the Ga! NICE TO MEET YOU Xenguy!!!
Thank you xD I think Georgia needs to do more if it's to catch up with other states in terms of trans* rights and the educating of others on this topic. It's close with protections, unfortunately, it's activism should step it up a little. Really sad that right now it's one of the most well known states for crimes against trans* people. :'( Also, I just realized I forgot the link to the article on the first post *facepalm* Thank you for the link Natasha!
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dalebert

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 04, 2014, 09:22:57 PM
I'm actually cool with being negged. Can I get 5 more anyone? :D

(yes it's a dare)

I think you're getting negged less for having a strong opinion (something I respect) than for being so tactless about how you express it as with the insults and such. I wouldn't even go so far as to say there's never a time for insulting someone, but this is a support site first and foremost and I think it calls for additional tact versus a forum that is more about having potentially heated discourse over certain topics.

FWIW, I haven't negged you. If memory serves, I don't think I've ever negged anyone here.

I understand advice to be more cautious around potentially dangerous people. I think people are too quick to accuse someone of victim blaming for what is actually just reasonable advice for dealing with potential criminals whether that be violent bigots, rapists, etc. I love the idea of living in a crime-free world but in the meantime I lock my house and my car and I avoid certain areas of town that I know are sketchy at night if at all possible. If I get attacked, it's not my fault. I have a right to walk through sketchy areas of town at night, but that doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do. I have a right to stand up for myself if a crowd of angry-looking bigots starts insulting me but that doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do. I can argue to the ends of the Earth about how I had a right to stand up to them, and I'd be correct, but that's not going to uncave my skull after the fact.

Ms Grace

Getting off track again, folks. Take your squabbles elsewhere.
Grace
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Lonicera

Unfortunately, I'm not particularly shocked this occurred given the frequency and severity of violence against trans people (particularly people of colour). It doesn't make the video any less deeply distressing or heart-breaking to watch, it's horrific when anyone is subjected to violence but especially so for me when the person in question appears to be vulnerable in multiple ways.

While I appreciate the content is highly edited and it's necessary to help people deal with realities, I can't accept resorting to violence at all, let alone with such potential force, if it wasn't self-defence and can only accept reasonable force in that case. I also won't generally comment on things the victim did since I don't want to feed into a culture that will reduce the severity of shame directed at the attacker based on those things. I dislike the prevalence of violence and I hope one of the best ways to change that is to change the culture surrounding acceptance of excuses. Some things need challenging, I include what 'common sense' says people should expect to happen in that since I think it's often a self-fulfilling prophecy and needs to be dragged in a direction that leads to greater respect for bodily integrity. Additionally, commenting on conduct after-the-fact is quite different to preparing for hypotheticals, in my mind.

One major issue I do have is that this received rapid coverage in communities I know and beyond. I'm hoping that it's due to factors like the graphic nature of the footage but I find the possibility of a racial element disconcerting. I don't mean to suggest anyone on this forum is motivated by this but I have noticed that other groups are uncharacteristically willing to pounce on this when it's a black man ostensibly attacking a white trans person. When the race relationship is reversed, crimes often seems to get minimal coverage and attention from those same groups.

Quote from: Megan Joanne on July 03, 2014, 12:26:06 PMHer behavior was typical male. She got overly aggressive and even threatened to kick their asses.
I pre-emptively apologise if I'm misunderstanding and for commenting on such a trivial point but I object to this somewhat if my reading is correct. Specifically, I don't think it's fair to risk echoing a tactic of virulent transphobes when discussing a trans woman's behaviour. In my mind, characterising a woman's actions as 'male' comes awfully close to subtly misgendering and erasing identity for me. It's also very gender essentialist. For me, if a woman is aggressive and assertive as part of her gender expression then the fact it belongs to a woman inherently makes it impossible for it to be 'male'. I entirely understand if others disagree with that based on some male socialisation arguably taking place or think the comparison is a useful one. :)
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