What if this is as good as it gets?

[aleon515]

I feel that the weight redistribution takes time and is fairly gradual, but I've seen a gradual change and my shape isn't hour glass anymore. But I've been on T for 15 months and still think I have a ways to go, but I am read 98% or so as male, even though I have hips, no body hair (and probably won't get it), and a wisp of a stache, etc.


--Jay

[Edge]

Of course. I have long hair myself, actually - cutting it made me pass less, if anything.

I know right? I probably pass more with short hair than long hair when I don't straighten it, but I've passed with long, straightened hair. Only a couple times, but still. Also feel better about myself.

Oh that's good. I didn't imagine you'd settle for a straight guy lol. But I wanted to ask just in case.

Nope, he's definitely bi. Actually, he came out to his mom by telling her I'm his boyfriend. She didn't take it very well though and he's currently struggling with that.

I feel that the weight redistribution takes time and is fairly gradual, but I've seen a gradual change and my shape isn't hour glass anymore. But I've been on T for 15 months and still think I have a ways to go, but I am read 98% or so as male, even though I have hips, no body hair (and probably won't get it), and a wisp of a stache, etc.


--Jay

Yeah, I've got to be patient. Ok. I can do this. lol I don't have much body hair either and am unlikely to get much. Both my dad and brother are fairly hairless, so I doubt I have the genetics for it.

[alabamagirl]

Nope, he's definitely bi. Actually, he came out to his mom by telling her I'm his boyfriend. She didn't take it very well though and he's currently struggling with that.

Wow, that's kind of awesome. I mean, I'm sorry his mum isn't taking it well, but if my SO came out by saying I was her girlfriend, it would make me feel pretty amazing. He could have tried to lessen the blow by telling her you are trans, but he put you and your feelings first. At least that's how it seems to me.

[Edge]

Yeah it is pretty awesome. I mean, the main reason he came out to her was because he felt it was time and he was tired of hiding, but he's been pretty good about calling me his boyfriend. Unfortunately, he has also been calling me cute and adorable and complimenting my appearance, but we had a talk about that and I think we're ok now. (That's what triggered my dysphoria raging. I know it doesn't sound like much, but he also expressed disbelief that I would ever lose my feminine figure.)

[sad panda]

I know right? I probably pass more with short hair than long hair when I don't straighten it, but I've passed with long, straightened hair. Only a couple times, but still. Also feel better about myself.

I also always passed better as a boy with long hair, it can hide your face shape if there's any issues there and make your face look more angular! It was always when I put my hair up that people started bugging me about my gender. It sounds kinda silly but I think having your hair in your face a bit is masculinizing.

[blink]

Edge, I'm working on changing that ) ( waist shape too. For me oblique exercises are helping (dumbbell side-bends for one example). Bigger obliques = less like this ) ( and more like this | |.

[Edge]

Thanks, blink!

[Mr.X]

I'm on the boat to change shape as well. Like many, I thought T would work its magic without me having to do much. I know that over time, think 2-3 years, it might do just that. But I'm not a very patient man, so I started this diet and exercise regime and slowly but surely, it seems to be working. To isn't magic, and it seems we do have to work for some changes.

[blink]

You're welcome. There's talk of working out arms, shoulders, and chest but I never see obliques mentioned.
Throwing this out there for guys pre-T, although HRT has made it more effective I did get some oblique development pre-T doing dumbbell side-bends. It takes time and weight progression (more weight with fewer reps works better than dozens of reps with a tiny dumbbell, it's important to start small for safety and work up from there) but you can get a head start on changing your body shape pre-T, and get in a habit of good form.

[Edge]

How long have you been on T, Mr. X?
Trust me, I know it takes work. That's why I've been making an effort to eat healthier and exercise. I'm just impatient and it's disheartening still not being able to pass and having body dysphoria get worse.

[Maleth]

I haven't been on T yet and won't be for a long time but one of the things that worries me is that it'll be hard to lose the hourglass shape. I got it pretty bad with huge hips right now, though miraculously I've passed in the past. Weird.

[Mr.X]

I've been on T for a year and two months now. Up until I started my new regime, I noticed absolutely zero in the fat deposition department.

And yeah, I hear ya about the passing. I do pass in real life, but not on the phone. It's such a downer. But know that you can control your shape. To a certain extent, at least. Bones won't change, but it's fat that mostly matters. And the fact you're already starting to make changes means you're in control, and will manage to get rid of that damnable female shape. In a way, it feels good to have a brother who's starting to do the same.

[Ephemeral]

Yeah it is pretty awesome. I mean, the main reason he came out to her was because he felt it was time and he was tired of hiding, but he's been pretty good about calling me his boyfriend. Unfortunately, he has also been calling me cute and adorable and complimenting my appearance, but we had a talk about that and I think we're ok now. (That's what triggered my dysphoria raging. I know it doesn't sound like much, but he also expressed disbelief that I would ever lose my feminine figure.)

My girlfriend calls me cute too and while it goes very contrary to how I see myself and what kind of masculinity I wish to define for myself I have just grown to live with it. I keep thinking it makes sense in her little girl-world lmao, so I let her do it and it's fine as long she doesn't do it with others around. I've given up trying to change that. It's impossible. I just sigh, frown or roll my eyes at her and keep doing whatever I'm doing.

As for myself and fat, I noticed quite early on that I started bulking up on the stomach (I think 2 months or so in) but you gotta keep in mind that I did not have any ovaries left when I began my treatment so it could very well explain why things went faster for me. Also, I began a pretty rigorous workout regime where I try to do cardio at least every other day though I did almost every day about 1 month in on T because I was unemployed at the time and had the time to spend that much time at the gym which I don't anymore and it makes me a little sad but oh well; but I have definitely noticed that losing weight goes a long way in speeding up fat distribution. While I still got pretty round hips I can definitely see that I have slimmed down and I am losing fat on my thighs now too. I just wish I could lose those ladyhandles now because they are the ones that really seem to give me a female shape right now. I think I can at least look 1-1 in ratio shoulder-hip wise once I lose all that excess fat around my butt, hip, to a degree waistline and thighs and that is going to make me feel so much better even though I do pass and look all right if I find some really good fitting clothes.

I've been on T for exactly 5 months now today, actually. But yes, damn that fat. Over here we don't get any free liposuction though we get everything else. Makes no damn sense!

[aleon515]

I think some men ARE cute. It might not be how you like to see yourself but I do think some men are cute.
It's not a masculine or feminine thing. I think it's more of a younger/older thing actually.

--Jay

[Edge]

It's a demeaning thing and it's not the kind of guy I am. Not the kind of guy I really am I mean. The "cute" comments are based on appearance and mannerisms I despise.