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My life descending into chaos, and also hello everyone!

Started by Annabella, July 10, 2014, 12:28:16 AM

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Annabella

By way of introduction, a few facts about me that are pertinent to the situation in which I find myself:


I was assigned male sex at birth.
I am somewhere in the high functioning zone of the autism landscape and in most cases "pass" for neuro-typical.
I married a lesbian ten years ago, but neither she nor I knew that at the time.
My SO has no interest in being with a person assigned a male sex at birth, regardless of any future physical changes.
My SO is dating other people.


That all being said, I am now in the most confusing place in my life I may have yet been. I have lived as a cis-male my entire life, and it is only now that I am aware of my transgender nature. I am sure there were signs as a child. I did sneak into my mothers closet when she was away and try on her clothes. I did not participate in anything physical if I could possibly avoid it, despite a family environment (fundamentalist Christians in Texas) which valued that highly. I was always intrigued by queer narratives. I have been programming video games and playing them since I was a child and always had female avatars unless I feared social consequences.

The honest truth is, I have an unusual brain. Oftentimes for me my emotions seem like they are a puzzle I am trying to understand rather than something I am feeling directly. Other people's emotions are vivid and overpowering, but my own are so distant and foreign to me. I find myself often sitting and literally asking myself in my head how I am or should be feeling in this situation, what is the appropriate display of emotion, what is the correct tone. So you can understand (or maybe you can't) it would come as a complete surprise to me when I came across some media about transgender identity over the past couple of years, and the emotional response in me was palpable and immediate. It was like there was this portal in my head where all the feelings about my assigned gender were locked methodically away throughout my life and even as I type this I am tearing up a bit.. and that isn't something I normally do, because I don't normally feel my own emotions strong enough to do that.. other people, or characters in movies yes.. but not my own feelings.

I feel like there's this person, this person who is me, who has been beaten and locked in a closet our whole life, and every time she started to reveal the slightest hint of being herself someone or something smacked her back down. It's like all this pain I didn't know I was feeling was locked up in there and I don't know how to process it. I'm reliving all of the moments in my life when I was told who I was "supposed" to be and now they all feel like needles and I'm the pin-cushion.

Up until now, I have never felt the acute identity crisis which I have read accounts from others about. I did not feel comfortable in my body, I did not feel comfortable with what role I had in relationships, or what social norms I was pushed to conform to, but I was not aware of the pain. Now I find myself thinking about it all the time.

Shortly before I joined this board, maybe three hours ago or so, I walked through the mall. My SO is living in another city than me half time, so it is the first time I even pondered shopping for clothing for myself. Until this I never cared what I wore. Now I find myself walking through a women's clothing store and feeling a mix of so many emotions. Part of me terrified, feeling like a criminal for even being there. Part of me imagining how I would want to look in those clothes, and that picture in my head making me almost want to cry. Part of me is looking at myself and feeling all that happiness just drain out of me.

I feel like I am trapped in the body of a troll, and even the idea of sex with a woman is disturbing to me right now, not because of the woman, but because I would be a man having sex with a woman. Being a woman having sex with a woman however.... quite another story.

The funny thing is, my wife told me, after she came out as a lesbian, that she thought the reason she picked me was because I looked so much like a woman.
I don't see it. The other funny thing is that when she came out I felt relieved in the same sort of vivid way. On the inside I feel like a petite woman. On the outside I am confronted with a 6'3" 170lb hairy thing.

So I find myself here, because I want to understand what is happening, and I don't feel that I know enough about the subject to process it properly.
If I could, I would upload my consciousness into an appropriate female body in a heartbeat. I feel like even with all that science can offer me now, I would never feel like me.. it is so confusing.
"But you can only lie about who you are for so long without going crazy."
― Ellen Wittlinger, Parrotfish
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ThePersona

The autism is called Aspergers, I was diagnosed when I was younger and lived dealing with extreme social awkwardness to the point I would isolate myself in my bedroom away from even my family, I'd go to school and stuff but I actually grew to fear being social and I always put it down to my Aspergers, it was really all dysphoria. Literally all if it, I'm now 2 months on hormones and I'm a social butterfly! My neurologist can't even believe me when I say I was diagnosed with Aspergers because I act and behave so much like any other average cisgirl would, except I was born into a man's body.

I didn't even realize I was trans until my sophomore year in high school. I told one person, that was an ex of mine (I feared being social yet I COULD do it) who I broke up with because dating her actually made my dysphoria worse (I didn't tell her I was trans then though, I told her it was emotionally distressing) and we stayed friends, then I came out to her 2 years later. So finding out late doesn't mean anything, and it certainly doesn't make you any less transgender.

I also did the video game character, especially with the pokemon games which I played in private (though sometimes I'd still choose male because of my brother)

Vivid and Overpowering emotions from others though is a very (stereotypical) symptom of autism is another form of dysphoria but to see if that's the case you really have to do a lot of self-reflecting, and figure that out on your own because you were diagnosed with Aspergers.

You honestly seem like your just experiencing your dysphoria and it's become an obsession because your dysphoria which tells you to be a female makes it an obsession (forget what this is called when our subconscious view of what we should be does not match our conscious view so our subconscious reacts in a way to force our conscious mind to fix it) but it's a psychological condition and it's actually not a disorder. And honestly I feel like we all had this moment maybe not as strongly as you when we experience our dysphoria later because it's making up for lost time.








3DS Name: Harrison (from pre-transition)
3DS friend code: 0791 3145 5772

Not sure if anyone really cares lol, if you add me just pm me with yours.

I pretty much only play Pokemon Y
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Annabella

Quote from: ThePersona on July 10, 2014, 04:35:11 AM
The autism is called Aspergers, I was diagnosed when I was younger and lived dealing with extreme social awkwardness to the point I would isolate myself in my bedroom away from even my family, I'd go to school and stuff but I actually grew to fear being social and I always put it down to my Aspergers, it was really all dysphoria.

I don't use the aspergers label, partially because of the DSMV removal of the diagnosis, and partially because I feel it is too broadly applied lately to be meaningful. I prefer to simply label myself as within the autistic landscape and ascribe properties to that, but yes, I was suspected of having aspergers but never diagnosed with either that or autism. That was partially because my parents are rather anti-science coming from a creationist household. The symptoms though are plain as day, especially from inside my head. I was diagnosed as "attention deficit disorder inattentive", but that too is a far too broadly applied term. I have deficits of attention, sure, when you are talking about things which I do not find interesting. :)

QuoteLiterally all if it, I'm now 2 months on hormones and I'm a social butterfly! My neurologist can't even believe me when I say I was diagnosed with Aspergers because I act and behave so much like any other average cisgirl would, except I was born into a man's body.

Reading this sent me off on a mental tangent, wondering whether my social anxiety is also related to dysphoria. I doubt it is the case for me, as I truly do not do well with social interaction. If my SO invites over guests I turn into "Suzy homemaker" and serve everyone food and drink so I can avoid being in the conversation and having to figure out what to say. On the other hand I found myself I think (damn it's confusing) rather elated by the idea of relating to other people as a woman. Maybe my social habits would change dramatically. Either way thank you so much for sharing, it means a lot to hear from a fellow member of the spectrum about this. I feel a bit less alone.

QuoteI didn't even realize I was trans until my sophomore year in high school. I told one person, that was an ex of mine (I feared being social yet I COULD do it) who I broke up with because dating her actually made my dysphoria worse (I didn't tell her I was trans then though, I told her it was emotionally distressing) and we stayed friends, then I came out to her 2 years later. So finding out late doesn't mean anything, and it certainly doesn't make you any less transgender.

I find myself oscillating between feeling so drawn to a female identity it is painful and feeling like a fake. I wish my feelings would be more consistent, measurable, or something. As it is, I was practically in tears last night about my dysphoria, and then this-morning I did not feel it at all, and then again this afternoon I am feeling it again. My brain can't seem to make up it's mind on whether to feel or not and the dissociation is confusing. From a logical standpoint all data points to my being transgender, I just wish my feelings would match up with that consistently. I feel like somewhat of a fraud because I know others here suffer from their dysphoria constantly since childhood, and I only just became fully aware it exists. I also wonder (or fear) if and when I do decide to start treatment for transition, a therapist will write me off because I don't show the emotional outward signs.

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I also did the video game character, especially with the pokemon games which I played in private (though sometimes I'd still choose male because of my brother)

My drug of choice lately is The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. There are so many mods for making highly customizable female characters, I find myself spending hours just trying to figure out how I would want to look by playing with the character customization.

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Vivid and Overpowering emotions from others though is a very (stereotypical) symptom of autism is another form of dysphoria but to see if that's the case you really have to do a lot of self-reflecting, and figure that out on your own because you were diagnosed with Aspergers.

You honestly seem like your just experiencing your dysphoria and it's become an obsession because your dysphoria which tells you to be a female makes it an obsession (forget what this is called when our subconscious view of what we should be does not match our conscious view so our subconscious reacts in a way to force our conscious mind to fix it) but it's a psychological condition and it's actually not a disorder. And honestly I feel like we all had this moment maybe not as strongly as you when we experience our dysphoria later because it's making up for lost time.

I wonder though if it isn't so jarring for me because I am just not used to feeling anything that strongly. My SO has constant emotional crisis, and until now I just could not relate at all. I hope that I don't seem like someone who is trying to say "hey look at me I am super more specialer than all of you because I am neurodiverse".

Thank you again so much for the post ThePersona.

PS: do you have a short name you prefer? I almost wrote TP,... but HAHA yeah.. :]
"But you can only lie about who you are for so long without going crazy."
― Ellen Wittlinger, Parrotfish
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ThePersona

Yes, I generally go by Christine or Christie.

And neurodiversity is literally everywhere we are all extremely unique and it's actually very logica that an autistic person would come to the conclusion they are transgendered rather than a non-autistic person if you really think about it because autistic people tend to be very self reflective.

Anyways, glad I could help. If you need anything, I did take a Psych Class in high school
3DS Name: Harrison (from pre-transition)
3DS friend code: 0791 3145 5772

Not sure if anyone really cares lol, if you add me just pm me with yours.

I pretty much only play Pokemon Y
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Annabella

Quote from: ThePersona on July 10, 2014, 05:46:31 PM
Yes, I generally go by Christine or Christie.

And neurodiversity is literally everywhere we are all extremely unique and it's actually very logica that an autistic person would come to the conclusion they are transgendered rather than a non-autistic person if you really think about it because autistic people tend to be very self reflective.

Anyways, glad I could help. If you need anything, I did take a Psych Class in high school

A great pleasure to meet you Christine, and thank you for welcoming me to the forums.
"But you can only lie about who you are for so long without going crazy."
― Ellen Wittlinger, Parrotfish
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ThePersona

Quote from: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
A great pleasure to meet you Christine, and thank you for welcoming me to the forums.

Enchantée
3DS Name: Harrison (from pre-transition)
3DS friend code: 0791 3145 5772

Not sure if anyone really cares lol, if you add me just pm me with yours.

I pretty much only play Pokemon Y
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antonia

Quote from: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
Reading this sent me off on a mental tangent, wondering whether my social anxiety is also related to dysphoria. I doubt it is the case for me, as I truly do not do well with social interaction. If my SO invites over guests I turn into "Suzy homemaker" and serve everyone food and drink so I can avoid being in the conversation and having to figure out what to say. On the other hand I found myself I think (damn it's confusing) rather elated by the idea of relating to other people as a woman. Maybe my social habits would change dramatically. Either way thank you so much for sharing, it means a lot to hear from a fellow member of the spectrum about this. I feel a bit less alone.

I've gone from being a total introvert to someone that's considered very sociable, I did the same thing I would find any excuse to get busy rather than interact with the people, somehow things just really changed when people started interacting with me as a woman and I was free, free from secrets, free from hiding and being able to be myself.


Quote from: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
My drug of choice lately is The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. There are so many mods for making highly customizable female characters, I find myself spending hours just trying to figure out how I would want to look by playing with the character customization.

Hmm, I've done more MMO time than I care to admit, LOTRO was my last one but I seem to have managed to kick the habit since then, I don't think I'll start another game like this since I'm having way too much fun in RL, always played female characters to, in retrospect somehow it allowed some measure of escape for me.
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