The Official 'Do I pass?' topic (Ver 5.0 - in 3-D)

[lil_red]

This is just me but to me it's not your face but actually the shape of your body. Maybe try button down shirts instead of t-shirts to obscure your waist-hip ratio. I get misgendered a lot in t shirts myself. Your forearms actually look quite squishy and feminine. Longer on T will change that, of course.

The reason I feel it's mostly my face is because I pass almost 100% from behind but maybe 10% face to face.  0% if I speak lol although my voice is finally starting to drop..yay!  Muscle definition will definately help and I'm trying to get more consistent with that.

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[mac1]

You guys look great and have a great advantage.

It is much easier for you to pass as male than it is for an MTF to pass as female.  You are also less likely to be questioned in male gendered facilities than an MTF is to be questioned in female gendered facilities.  I frequently see Cis-females using male public restrooms without any fear of rejection or prosecution.

Again, you guys look great and pass well; enjoy your advantage!

[FtMitch]

You guys look great and have a great advantage.

It is much easier for you to pass as male than it is for an MTF to pass as female.  You are also less likely to be questioned in male gendered facilities than an MTF is to be questioned in female gendered facilities.  I frequently see Cis-females using male public restrooms without any fear of rejection or prosecution.

Again, you guys look great and pass well; enjoy your advantage!

While all that is true, it honestly is not a particularly good feeling to have it stated to you.  The fact that there are certain parts of being FTM that helps you pass easier than an MTF might DOESN'T actually mean you avoid the pain, struggle, acceptance issues, self hatred, etc.  We FTMs deal with all of that just as deeply and urgently as MTFs do and I feel that we should ALL have a lot of respect for each other and the intense struggles we face rather than trying to call out one person's struggle as somehow less difficult than another's. I know you probably didn't mean the comment in a negative way, but it is a point I get tired of hearing considering all of the many struggles I DO face on a daily basis.

[Little Johnny]

Thought I'd try this out. Do I?

[Its_Cayden]

Sorry, it got quite hectic in my life. I still haven't figured out posting a picture through my phone, I'm not that intelligent within technology. However I have an Instagram account if you wouldn't mind checking out and seeing if I pass or not? It is caydenstrophic it would be cool if you privately messaged me your thoughts! I'm still pre-t...

[WolfNightV4X1]

Hey Cayden, are you okay with comments on your instagram or does it have to be PMs only? Either way I am willing to go over and give it a look

[Little Johnny]

Hey Cayden, are you okay with comments on your instagram or does it have to be PMs only? Either way I am willing to go over and give it a look

Instagram? I'm willing to PM mine although it's mostly photos of things and not of me.

[Its_Cayden]

You may comment or privately message, either way is fine by me.

[FtMitch]

Thought I'd try this out. Do I?

If you're asking if you pass as male, you don't really, but it doesn't look like you've made a lot of effort to.  A different, more masculine haircut/color and less or more subtle makeup would help a lot, as would clothes that aren't women's and see through.  I definitely see potential as I wondered for a bit if you might be mtf and were asking if you pass in the opposite sense, but right now I instantly see female simply because everything (haircut, hair color, makeup, eyebrow shape, clothes) is more feminine plus you have a small bone structure. 

[FtMitch]

Sorry, it got quite hectic in my life. I still haven't figured out posting a picture through my phone, I'm not that intelligent within technology. However I have an Instagram account if you wouldn't mind checking out and seeing if I pass or not? It is caydenstrophic it would be cool if you privately messaged me your thoughts! I'm still pre-t...

You look great, especially for being pre-t!  I would definitely think you're a teen boy if I saw the instagram account without knowing you were trans, which is about as good as it gets for us fine-boned gents before T.  You look way better than I did pre-t, for sure!

[Its_Cayden]

Thank you! Some days I feel as if I don't pass, but it is reassuring we'll fellow trans say that you pass. ☺️

[Zeno]

Cayden you pass 100% to me.

[WolfNightV4X1]

If you're asking if you pass as male, you don't really, but it doesn't look like you've made a lot of effort to.  A different, more masculine haircut/color and less or more subtle makeup would help a lot, as would clothes that aren't women's and see through.  I definitely see potential as I wondered for a bit if you might be mtf and were asking if you pass in the opposite sense, but right now I instantly see female simply because everything (haircut, hair color, makeup, eyebrow shape, clothes) is more feminine plus you have a small bone structure.

I agree with most those things, although I dont really see makeup? I could be wrong I know absolutely nothing about makeup. His hair is short though, he probably assumed it would be male, it would help if it was styled differently if thats the case. I wouldnt discount the makeup automatically though if its used in a sense to do male facial contouring, because that's actually very beneficial since Johnny doesnt have the facial structure to work with yet.

The seethrough shirt though I agree is too feminine, not that I find anything bad with males wearing feminine shirts but pre-T the less feminine tipoffs the better to pass.

You do havs potential though, Johnny. If you try again and try different styles/angles you might look better suited to passing

[HenryG]

Hello everyone,

First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.

I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.

My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though. 

I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.

http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.

http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5

Thank you for your time

[Elis]

Hello everyone,

First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.

I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.

My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though. 

I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.

http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.

http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5

Thank you for your time

I went to Transhealth . Dr Curtis can be kinda off putting bcos he's so direct and has a no holds barred approach but Sharon, the counsellor was lovely . I had the go ahead for T within 3 months (Sharron has a 3 week wait between counselling appointments).

You pass to me as an androgynous guy. Your body looks male to me and your chest looks flat. Plus your hairstyle really suits you

[HenryG]

I went to Transhealth . Dr Curtis can be kinda off putting bcos he's so direct and has a no holds barred approach but Sharon, the counsellor was lovely . I had the go ahead for T within 3 months (Sharron has a 3 week wait between counselling appointments).

You pass to me as an androgynous guy. Your body looks male to me and your chest looks flat. Plus your hairstyle really suits you

Thanks Elis - I appreciate your kind comments and the info about Transhealth. It's really helpful to hear from someone who has been through that particular route

I was hoping to get the go-ahead for T a bit sooner than 3 months, but realise it is probably a realistic timeframe. I've been to my GP though and she has agreed to prescribe it, following the advice of a specialist. I was hoping that this fact would reduce the amount of waiting time, as Dr Curtis wouldn't actually have to prescribe but just advise my GP? Probably wishful thinking...

I guess I'm just a bit unclear as to how things work in regards to private and NHS blending together. Did you have your GP involved at all or was it all done through Transhealth?

[arice]

Hello everyone,

First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.

I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.

My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though. 

I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.

http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.

http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5

Thank you for your time

You pass as androgynous in the first picture but not the second. I do like your hair and I think you have a lot of passing potential.

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[Elis]

Thanks Elis - I appreciate your kind comments and the info about Transhealth. It's really helpful to hear from someone who has been through that particular route

I was hoping to get the go-ahead for T a bit sooner than 3 months, but realise it is probably a realistic timeframe. I've been to my GP though and she has agreed to prescribe it, following the advice of a specialist. I was hoping that this fact would reduce the amount of waiting time, as Dr Curtis wouldn't actually have to prescribe but just advise my GP? Probably wishful thinking...

I guess I'm just a bit unclear as to how things work in regards to private and NHS blending together. Did you have your GP involved at all or was it all done through Transhealth?

During the initial consultation Dr curtis will recommend as many therapy appointments that he thinks you need. So it'll vary. I told Dr Curtis that I wanted to go the NHS route for my T prescription. Once my final therapy appointment was done with the counsellor posted me the letter saying I'm most likely trans and have GD; as well as what my blood needs to be tested for. i took the letter to my GP. I was her first trans patient so had to wait a week for her to consult somebody but she couldn't deny me T because I had a medical need plus 'prove'. Once my blood test came back fine she  gave me my prescription and that was that.

I also had to have a blood test done at the 3 month and 9 month mark; which I have done with the NHS. Plus follow up consultations with Dr curtis to review my blood test results and too see how I'm doing.

Btw; Dr curtis doesn't prescribe Sustanon anymore just testogel and nebido. I use testogel and I think it's the best HRT option. But each to their own

[Sophia Sage]

You're close, Henry, but not quite there.  I agree the first picture is more flattering -- you've got a straight build and a wide stance.  Up close, it's obvious you have no facial hair, a feminine hairline, and not masculine bony features.  Thankfully, all these things can change with T.

[HenryG]

Cheers Elis for the info, really appreciate it, and thanks everyone for their comments