The Official 'Do I pass?' topic (Ver 5.0 - in 3-D)

[FtMitch]

Hello everyone,

First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.

I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.

My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though. 

I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.

http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.

http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5

Thank you for your time

Hey Henry, I always try and be honest with people and while you have a TON of potential with a straight, masculine body shape and a good haircut, at this pre T point you don't pass to me yet.  Your face simply looks to feminine.  Thats something that will change drastically with T, though, so it shouldn't be too long before you are passing completely!  Your body shape is definitely passable.

[uk_older_ftm]

This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.

[uk_older_ftm]

Hello everyone,

First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.

I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.

My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though. 

I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.

http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.

http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5

Thank you for your time

Hi there! UK member here too, with similar chest issues to yourself (38E last time I bought a bra). Think I agree with these guys that the first pic is 'better', but you definitely got potential. Binder is working well too, mate.

[Elis]

This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.

The jumper accentuates your broad shoulders which work well; but I think a smaller size would work best for you to look more male. Alart from that you're looking good

[Sophia Sage]

This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.

You've got a great square jaw, and the big glasses really help to create the impression of brow bossing.  Your hairline isn't too round, either -- is it possible to pluck it back a bit up by the temples, maybe create some corners, the beginning of male pattern recession?  No beard shadow is a bit of an issue; if it's possible to build up a tan in a couple of months, it might help to make your skin at least a bit leathery.  Not sure if the lower lip piercing helps, but that might be a generational thing on my part. 

I agree with Elis about your clothes, though. First, the button-down shirt is too wide around your neck, which makes it look small and I don't think you want that.  Thankfully, you can get shirts at men's stores (do you have a Men's Wearhouse in the UK?) that have a wide variety of tailored sizes -- you should be able to find something more fitted around the neck that's still loose enough to work around your torso.  A tie would also help.  Actually, a tie might help the whole collar issue by itself.

I'm not so sure about the royal blue color of the jumper -- it kind of sticks out.  Black and charcoal, navy and slate blue, plum, hunter and olive green, brown and tan and khaki are more masculine staples. 

[uk_older_ftm]

Thanks for the comments. I was a little unsure of the size of the jumper, my issue is trying to disguise large breasts at the minute :/ as for the colour, it's not that bright in real life lol, and the other two I have are grey and olive green. The collar is integrated into the jumper (not a separate item of clothing), so unfortunately I can't change its size or add a tie...Hopefully once I start T I can build up my neck some more anyway!

I'm not sure about the piercing either...I don't wear it for work as I'm not allowed, but I am wondering if it's time to let it heal up completely. I can never decide if it's a masculine position or not (had it done many moons ago before I accepted I am trans).

[Tossu-sama]

I don't know if this is just my opinion but I think men tend to wear more visible piercing jewelry than just little studs. I have my lower lip pierced, too and I currently wear a stud with this sort of end. (I also have my nose and brow pierced.)

Then again, one of my vocational school teachers - who was very supportive and all - was very dead set on his opinion that men don't have facial piercings. I don't really think piercings have ever stopped me from passing, it's always been my voice.

[Sophia Sage]

Thanks for the comments. I was a little unsure of the size of the jumper, my issue is trying to disguise large breasts at the minute :/ as for the colour, it's not that bright in real life lol, and the other two I have are grey and olive green. The collar is integrated into the jumper (not a separate item of clothing), so unfortunately I can't change its size or add a tie...Hopefully once I start T I can build up my neck some more anyway!

I see!

Well, the look is in the right direction.  Perhaps consider getting separate shirts and jumpers?  Then you could do the ties, and have a better fit -- and the extra layer should help cover things up a bit better, too, as well as providing more bulk for your shoulders.

(Sorry, just suggested you go shopping for more clothes.  Transition is a bitca.)

I'm not sure about the piercing either...I don't wear it for work as I'm not allowed, but I am wondering if it's time to let it heal up completely. I can never decide if it's a masculine position or not (had it done many moons ago before I accepted I am trans).

I agree with Tossu, the stud itself is too delicate.  Of course, if you're lucky with facial hair, you'll eventually get a soul patch and the question could become moot.

[Mal]

This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.

I think you pass very well. Nothing about your appearance stands out as female to me.

I'm also very large chested, so I understand having to wear larger sizes to try to disguise it, even with binding. It's difficult to find clothes that are baggy enough to hide a large chest, yet small enough that they don't make you look unprofessional.

I noticed you said that you don't wear your piercing at work, but I wanted to let you know I've seen numerous guys with that piercing, so I don't think it keeps you from passing. Some of the time they wear a small spike in it instead of a stud, but I've also seen them wear one like yours.

[Nathanos]

I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.

[Elis]

I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.

You pass to me. I started looking simply male around 7/8 months and even then I thought strangers who were calling me him/his/he were having a joke or it was a one off instance; but it kept happening. So like me definitely your dysphoria deceiving you.

I'm trying to grow out my hair from an undercut and your hair definitely looks better than mine . Your hairstyle suits you.

[Sebby Michelango]

I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.

You looks a bit feminine for me and shorter hair would make you pass better. I would recommend you a undercut. But if your voice is deep, perhaps that might help you being read as male.

[Jacqueline]

Hello everyone,

First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.

I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.

My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though. 

I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.

http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.

http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5

Thank you for your time

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[CodexUmbrae]

I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.

I don't feel that you're face is feminine, really. Like they have said before, probably cutting your hair shorter would help, but, as you want it long, maybe trying another hairstyle but not cutting it. But, anyway, I like your hair. (?

Anyway, I think that you pass fairly well. Be patient about your hair. xD

[CodexUmbrae]

Weeell, I had my hair cut some weeks ago, and at the begining I didn't like it buut I fixed a thing and I started to like it a little bit. The thing is that I'm not quite sure if it helps me more than the one I had before (or, well, helped me, my hair grows stupidly fast, or that's how I feel it xD). So I want to know if it's a little better. (? Or was... I've been thinking to cut it shorter, buut I don't really like undercuts at all and I don't think it will really help, as I have a round face (maybe just that I'm a bit paranoid (?). I really don't want to look like a butch lesbian, as I'm getting an unexpected attention from girls in my school, a place where everybody thinks I'm a girl.

This is how I looked with my old haircut, that I think the new one is approaching to it by now. xD


New one...




And this is how I looked last saturday, in an international festival where I have no freaking idea how I passed at all. xD I never was misgendered. I felt so happy. xD I told my friends I wanted to "trick" people and make them think I was a boy (haven't told anyone yet), and even my friend called me "he" when talking to a policeman when we were about to enter to a concert. xD

Funny thing is that smiling doesn't help me pass at all. xDD

Aaand I was thinking of a cut like this. Said "maaaybe".

Or like this. But I'm not quite sure... My face is quite round. Fffs. Aaand I hate my forehead. That's why I feel so insecure about cutting my hair shorter.

[Elis]

Codex Umbrae- You pass 100% to m; the new hairstyle is teally working for you. I don't see the need to change it unless you're really unhappy with it. IMO I wouldn't choose the hairstyle in the bottom pic. The hair looks 'feathered' which is a common trait in women's short hairstyles. Instead have a barber/stylist cut your hair using straight angled cuts. That'll make it look morr masculine.

[Drexy/Drex]

This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.

Yes you do ....

[WolfNightV4X1]

Your current haircut is awesome, Codex. I definitely suggest you keep it long to hide your face, you just look like a pudgy boy with cheek fat so the long hair will be very boyish on you

[CodexUmbrae]

Codex Umbrae- You pass 100% to m; the new hairstyle is teally working for you. I don't see the need to change it unless you're really unhappy with it. IMO I wouldn't choose the hairstyle in the bottom pic. The hair looks 'feathered' which is a common trait in women's short hairstyles. Instead have a barber/stylist cut your hair using straight angled cuts. That'll make it look morr masculine.

Thaank you. I'm not really unhappy, just that lately I'm getting dysphoric and depressed randomly and at that moments, I don't know exactly why, I tend to want a shorter hair. Although I know that, being pre-T and having a round face and all, a short hair wouldn't help me at all.

And yeaaaah didn't think about the second pic before. You're right. Thank you. And I'll try the barber thing when I can.

[CodexUmbrae]

Your current haircut is awesome, Codex. I definitely suggest you keep it long to hide your face, you just look like a pudgy boy with cheek fat so the long hair will be very boyish on you

Thaank you. I'll probably stick to it for a long time (while I get to start T, loong time I guess) if I don't get impulsive suddenly xD

And yeah, it isn't weird that people ask me to touch my cheeks. xD I'm almost used to it. (?

Anyway, thank you.