Tomboys

[OreSama]

If you all don't mind, i'd love to give my opinion on the whole "remove societies expectations and you wouldn't be transgender" nonsense.

I was a SPECTACULAR failure as a male. I had no male friends or interests. I never had sex with a woman. I always had long hair. I simply could not fit in with guys to save my life. And yet none of this did a damn thing for my dysphoria. I ignored all expectations and it didn't help at all.

I laugh whenever I read that "arguement" because my personal experience directly contradicts it.

Heheh, I grew up in a household where I got to wear what I wanted, I went to school with guys who crossdressed and didn't get much crap about it, and I still have dysphoria.  I don't give a damn about being masculine or feminine, the idea of being a homemaker sounds pretty awesome to me, and I love wearing women's clothing.  Oh yeah, I'm totally transitioning so it'll be more acceptable for me to act masculine.
I dunno, when someone is dead-set on not understanding an explanation of what dysphoria is like, there's not much point in trying to explain things to them.

[sneakersjay]

There is a huge difference between wanting to be a boy and being a boy. We are (were) boys, always.

As someone who tried to be very feminine and failed following puberty, I can attest that putting on makeup and dresses and having long, flowing, curly hair will not make one a girl, either. 

[nikkie]

There is a huge difference between wanting to be a boy and being a boy. We are (were) boys, always.

As someone who tried to be very feminine and failed following puberty, I can attest that putting on makeup and dresses and having long, flowing, curly hair will not make one a girl, either.

So true! I had no "girl instinct" at all.