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Does your VJ look like a cis woman's?

Started by suzifrommd, August 14, 2014, 03:34:48 PM

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suzifrommd

Mine doesn't. There are two major differences:

1. In a cis VJ, the labia majora come together in front. In mine, they sort of go off to each side. This means that my clitoral hood is essentially the front part of the mons pubis.

2. In a cis VJ, the labia minora flank the vaginal opening on each side and do not come together in the back. In mine, they come together and meet between the urethra and the vagina, meaning they do not flank my vagina.

I've drawn some rough sketches below so you can see what I'm talking about.

Does anyone else have differences similar to these? (Or others?) I'd appreciate it if you mentioned your surgeon and/or surgery type if you respond.

(Also, I want to clarify that I am in no way unhappy. I'm thrilled to have a female bottom, and don't plan any revisions no matter what people say. I'm just burningly curious, since I hear so many people are happy with their aesthetics.)

A cisgender vag:


My vag:
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mrs izzy

Yes as my husband says, all is where it is supposed to be.  ;D

Just i have a nice small and neat labia minora.



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Jess42

Suzi, I wouldn't worry too much about it. They all come in all shapes and sizes and like snowflakes no two are the same. But it doesn't look unusual.
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Jenna Marie

*A* cis woman's, yes. Not one I've ever met in person, but that's a pretty short list. :)

The bit at the bottom where the labia majora surround the vaginal opening and then sort of meet underneath it is called the "fourchette," and I do have one, although it's kind of rudimentary (there's not as much tissue there as on my wife, and I do hear it's very hard to get a good fourchette with a one-stage procedure b/c of the dilation stresses). My clitoral hood is quite distinct, and not part of the mons. Also, assuming your diagram is correct to scale, my urethra is also placed immediately above the vagina, to the point that I can't actually locate it anymore now that it's all healed up and not spraying wildly.

With that said, the biggest quirk of mine is the "small, neat labia minora" - they're much smaller than I expected, fading away well before the end of the labia majora. However, I have found photos of cis vulvas that look like this; it's not the most common type, but it's not totally unheard of even for a cis woman to entirely lack labia minora, so I quit fretting about it.

There are some sites that have photos of dozens of cis vulvas, and I did find that a huge reassurance when it came to determining if I fell within the normal *range.*

(I went to Brassard for penile inversion, 2+ years ago. It also took close to 2 years for the swelling to entirely disappear and the "details" to finalize, btw.)
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Adam (birkin)

Wow, I never even thought about any details like that lol. You must have done a lot of observation. :P
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echo_artist

Nothing looks too crazy in the pic.....No 'ginas look the same, it'll be kind creepy if they did.
And that's what makes it unique :3. lol
So you don't need to worry. ^^
It's okay.

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Catherine Sarah

Let it go for about 12 months and then review the situation. Takes about that long for the full effect of surgery settle in. Up till then it'll be shifting targets as to size, shape, colour etc, etc.

In the meantime, sit back and enjoy. It's priceless.

Huggs
Catherine




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mrs izzy

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on August 14, 2014, 09:37:39 PM
Let it go for about 12 months and then review the situation. Takes about that long for the full effect of surgery settle in. Up till then it'll be shifting targets as to size, shape, colour etc, etc.

In the meantime, sit back and enjoy. It's priceless.

Huggs
Catherine

Well said. I am still amazed at the changes at 16 months out.

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mrs izzy

Quote from: Samantha007 on August 15, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
I can see changes happening. But can I ask you girls what sort of changes you saw between let's say 5 months post-op and a year?

hugs,

Samantha

Mostly swelling keeps going away and things get more defined in structure and texture.
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ZoeM

I had a cisgirl tell me mine looks amazing and that my doctor did a great job... So, yeah. Very happy for the most part. I don't really have a clitoral hood, sadly (And my clitoris is still very much in hiding - if anything it feels like it's about a half inch *above* my labia, as there's a sensitive bump under the skin up there. >_>

But it passes muster aside from the surgical scars, so I'm okay with it.
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KayCeeDee

Mine does look cis, but that isn't really saying much because, as others have noted, there is a huge variance in the wild. My surgeon (Dr. Peter Davis) says some patients like to have a little pinch put in the mons pubis to bring the labia majora together a bit more at the top, for "a more youthful appearance." This is outpatient, done months later in the revision process (if you want a revision, or he talks you into one.)
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Jenna Marie

Samantha : Yeah, it was mostly swelling going down and the details looking more refined, plus the clitoral hooding relocating to really hug the clit and the vaginal opening becoming more and more recessed.

Zoe, I think that's where the clit *should* be - the inner labia should come together just below the clitoral hood, so that the lips sort of connect and "loop over" into the hood. I'd assume that lacking hooding would put the clit more or  less a tiny bit above where the labia minora end.
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Catherine Sarah

Hi Samantha,
Quote from: Samantha007 on August 15, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
I can see changes happening. But can I ask you girls what sort of changes you saw between let's say 5 months post-op and a year?

Essentially, reduction in swelling and pelvic fat redistribution were the principle changes I've observed.

Huggs
Catherine




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ZoeM

Quote from: Jenna Marie on August 15, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
Samantha : Yeah, it was mostly swelling going down and the details looking more refined, plus the clitoral hooding relocating to really hug the clit and the vaginal opening becoming more and more recessed.

Zoe, I think that's where the clit *should* be - the inner labia should come together just below the clitoral hood, so that the lips sort of connect and "loop over" into the hood. I'd assume that lacking hooding would put the clit more or  less a tiny bit above where the labia minora end.

I mean, it's half an inch up under a patch of the mons pubis. It's not even remotely connected to the labia minora.
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Jenna Marie

Zoe : Yeah, I was trying to say - badly - that that seems like the correct position *anatomically,* but the lack of hooding and no connection to the labia minora will make it look a bit odd.
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ZoeM

Quote from: Jenna Marie on August 16, 2014, 10:08:02 AM
Zoe : Yeah, I was trying to say - badly - that that seems like the correct position *anatomically,* but the lack of hooding and no connection to the labia minora will make it look a bit odd.

It doesn't *look* anything. It's invisible. Hidden. Nobody's ever going to see or touch it - it hardly even counts as a clitoris, really. It's just a bump under my skin. I might as well not even have it.
...I'm depressing myself. :/
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Jenna Marie

Zoe : Aww, sweetie, I'm sorry. As long as it's there, there's hope. It's mostly there for *your* enjoyment, after all. Plenty of cis women can't see theirs either, and find it (or not) by touch alone.
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pretty pauline

I wouldn't worry about it Suzi, all vaginas are unique, my husband who knows my history is amazed at how pretty neat mine is, how real it looks and how it feels, my clit is hidden under the hood, so I don't often see it unless I force apart, it's hard to see, but it's there, Iv asked him many times how I compare to other girlfriends he had over the years, and his reply, his words not mine,  ''best pussy he ever had''  I bet he says that to all the girls ;)
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stephaniec

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suzifrommd

Quote from: ZoeM on August 16, 2014, 10:37:42 AM
It doesn't *look* anything. It's invisible. Hidden. Nobody's ever going to see or touch it - it hardly even counts as a clitoris, really. It's just a bump under my skin. I might as well not even have it.
...I'm depressing myself. :/

Ditto mine, Zoe. The clitoral head peaks up between my labia, but the bulk of my clitoris is buried underneath my mons pubis but somehow also also lies closely against the anterior vaginal wall.

I think that's the way it is in most penile inversion surgeries.

Do you have a clitoral head? for me it's tiny - only a few millimeters across. I was warned not to touch it because it's really sensitive (they're right...)
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