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I Got "Ma'am"-ed Yesterday by female Human Resources Director at the University!

Started by JohannaJohn, August 20, 2014, 12:57:18 PM

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JohannaJohn

Hi girls, Johanna here again ---

I cannot believe what happened to me yesterday, Tuesday morning.  I was at the large University where I work as a Professor to ask some questions and finalize some paperwork for the final work contract for this semester (which has in fact has already started here).  I am an American living and working in Latin America.

I have NOT yet "come out" at the University, or with any of my clients.  I might try "coming out" soon to at least 1 group of clients, to sort of "test the waters" and make sure this transition doesn't give me economic problems because the University or some of my clients don't like the fact that I am a girl.

I am 9 weeks into HRT coming up on 10 weeks.  I have very nice round but small breasts.  My nipples are quite obvious when I am working while presenting as "boy," in boy button-down shirts.  The hair on the back of my head is growing out long and my youthful natural brown, no gray -- wow!  I have lost all desire to cut my hair.  I will let my hair grow as long as it wants to.  I am a girl.

Anyway, on with the story...

In the middle of a complex point about the work contract and insurance and tax payments, Martha, the female Human Resources (HR) Manager, said to me (in Spanish, since that is the language here, and I speak fluent Spanish at this point since I have lived here for 8 years now):

"...y necesitas hacer tal y tal ...y mami, este serve muy bien para ti!"

In English: "...and you need to do such-and-such...and MA'AM, this will work very well for you!"

And then I answered her, and the conversation continued on without losing a beat.

I was absolutely floored with happiness, and truly shocked...

Let me explain why...

In Spanish where I live, of course "Mama" or "mami" means "Mother" and "Papi" means "Father."

But the local dialect of Spanish here includes another definition for these 2 words.

If you want to call ANY female affectionately -- sort of a term-of-endearment to say it in a more formal way -- you can simply say "Mami."

If you want to call ANY male affectionately, you can simply say "Papi."

Previously, I have many times been called "Papi" here.  And not meaning "Father" although I have been called "Papi" as "Father" too, since I have a beautiful princess 6-year-old daughter here.

I have NEVER been called "Mami" here -- even by accident.  Until yesterday, that is...

Wow.

Was this a "slip of the tongue"?  Well, maybe, I dunno.  This wasn't like what happened to me a few weeks ago, when on 2 separate occasions 2 different cashiers who were strangers mistakenly "ma'am"-ed me.

Not at all.  Martha, the HR Director at this large University where I am a Professor, knows me quite well at this point.

I have never said to her that I am anything but a boy.  I am a girl, but I have never said this to her, or anyone else at the University.

For work, I dress like a boy.  Yesterday morning in front of Martha, I was dressed as a guy, with buttom-down work shirt and business-casual long guy's pants.

A slip of the tongue?

Maybe.  But never has this happened to me previously here.

It did yesterday.  Wow.  I am astounded.  :)

Did Martha maybe notice my breasts, which are small, but quite well-defined in my boy work shirt?  Did she feel that she was talking a female, subconsciously, when her mind was occupied on the medium-complicated topics we were discussing?

Did Martha maybe see my nipples, since I don't quite need a bra yet -- I am kind of like a 12-year-old girl with budding breasts, with obvious protruding nipples, and round feminine boobies (very small boobs, but growing FAST!).  Did Martha see my nipples?  Did she subconsciously feel she was speaking with a female person -- me?

Did Martha maybe notice my quieter, more feminine mannerisms?  And therefore felt she was speaking to a girl?

Did Martha notice my newly-growing beautiful light brown hair, growing down the back of my neck?  And for this reason, think that she was conversing with another female?

I dunno, to be honest.  But it seems a little strange to be a pure coincidence.

SHE KNOWS ME WELL.  I work there, and I have had dealings with Martha many times now.

Why did she call me "Ma'am"? :)

Sure made my day.

Wow am I happy with my life right now.

Hugs to all,
Johanna.
I am female.
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Juliett

 Boy and girl generally refer to pre-pubescent. Sweetie, you're a woman :) and congratulations.

Back before i was full time, my boss noticed the changes i was going through and added two plus two.
In hindsight, I'm quite surprised she could count that high.

She has likely noticed the changes you're going through and supports you, i would advise talking to her about it as soon as possible. I would also suggest that you have a lawyer help change your name soon, it can not be overstated how much easier that makes things.
correlation /= causation
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JohannaJohn

Quote from: Juliett on August 20, 2014, 02:19:29 PM
Boy and girl generally refer to pre-pubescent. Sweetie, you're a woman :) and congratulations.

I cried a little when I read your comment, Juliett.

< Kisses >

Johanna.
I am female.
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JohannaJohn

Quote from: Juliett on August 20, 2014, 02:19:29 PM
Boy and girl generally refer to pre-pubescent. Sweetie, you're a woman :) and congratulations.

Back before i was full time, my boss noticed the changes i was going through and added two plus two.
In hindsight, I'm quite surprised she could count that high.

She has likely noticed the changes you're going through and supports you, i would advise talking to her about it as soon as possible. I would also suggest that you have a lawyer help change your name soon, it can not be overstated how much easier that makes things.

Indeed, Juliett, I might NEED to do that soon.

I was showing my boobies to another trans-girl via Webcam this past weekend, and she "warned" me:

"Johanna, you probably have only a short time when it will become VERY hard to hide your breasts."

I asked her: "How long, in your opinion?  A few months?"

She answered: "No honey, maybe ONE month."

Yikes!  I guess I need to be ready for this...in one more month, that will be 3 months and change on HRT for me...

In some ways, maybe this is fortuitous -- a great happy coincidence -- that the person "Ma'am"-ing me happened to be not a stranger, not a neighbor, not another trans-girl, not a former cis girlfriend, not a guy, but...

THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR AT THE UNIVERSITY WHERE I WORK AS A PROFESSOR.

Wow, absolute wow.

Maybe "destiny" -- if there is such a thing -- is smiling on me now in my happy life -- and wants Johanna, my true female self, to fully emerge, for all the world to see...

Only the economic world of employment, is a possible barrier at this point...

Solve the employment and client possible "threat" to my female transition, and then Johanna can emerge as

FULLY FEMALE FREE

all the time, full-time.

Love to all,
Johanna.
I am female.
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stephaniec

If you don't mind me saying your very lucky to be this far after 9 weeks .It's taken me 10 months and I still get sired with out a dress  and make up. congrats.
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JohannaJohn

Quote from: stephaniec on August 20, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
If you don't mind me saying your very lucky to be this far after 9 weeks .It's taken me 10 months and I still get sired with out a dress  and make up. congrats.

Thank you dear, Stephanie.  To be honest, I was REALLY surprised.  It REALLY floored me.  In a great way.  I was stunned.

And my daughter asked me over the weekend: "Daddy, Who ARE you?"  She certainly notices the changes.

Several people have said to me, both males and females, "Have you lost weight, or something?"  These are all people who know me well.  They seem to be able to sense "something" is happening, but they cannot figure it out.

:) :) :)

Johanna.
I am female.
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Juliett

I went full time around the 3 month mark.
"Boobies" is my pet peeve and i always have to resist smacking my boyfriend when he says it. They're breasts darn it! :p
correlation /= causation
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JohannaJohn

Quote from: Juliett on August 20, 2014, 03:10:50 PM
I went full time around the 3 month mark.
"Boobies" is my pet peeve and i always have to resist smacking my boyfriend when he says it. They're breasts darn it! :p

Thanks Juliett, If I can resolve work-related coming out issues, well, that is really the only significant thing holding me back now...

Maybe I will feel ready to come out much more in one more month, at the 3 month, mark, too...like you, although maybe not quite FULLY come out, but probably a lot more...

My breasts will almost for sure be bigger by then since they are tender ouchie so much of the time, and growing fast...   :)

Juliett, A lot of cis girls such as my sister in the United States, use the word "boobs" or "boobies" as well as "breasts."

The word that I find disrespectful is "tits."  To me, "tits" or "titties" are words that guys use to describe body parts of girls as if they are the personal property of the guy.

Do any others of you gals have any opinions about what words are appropriate and respectful when discussing our breasts?

Johanna.

I am female.
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Tori

Quote from: Juliett on August 20, 2014, 03:10:50 PM
I went full time around the 3 month mark.
"Boobies" is my pet peeve and i always have to resist smacking my boyfriend when he says it. They're breasts darn it! :p

I default to "BEWBS".


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