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What are you thinking? 9.0

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DragonBeer

Ugh what a stomach upset....never eating pizza again. >_<
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Daft

I'm kinda not feelin' the whole "I'm trans and you're trans and my friend knows I'm trans so I'm going to tell them you're trans because they're cool with it anyway" thing my trans friends continue to do, even though they're fully aware that I'm stealth on campus, stealth everywhere else in my life that isn't home or in some queer/LGBT* spaces.

I went over to my friend's apartment a little while ago and he introduced me to his roommate, who later made a comment about my facial hair and she noted how jealous my friend is of my progress for only being on hormones for seven months. I initially shrugged it off, but it's really not her business, nor anyone else's, to know about my medical transitioning and especially how long I've been on hormones for. I literally try as hard as I can to keep that information to myself, and I'm extremely guarded about my history--I'll only tell about it if I feel it's necessary, like with a psychologist or a medical professional or another trans person who's deeply curious. And it kind of worries me, considering the number of trans folks I know, who might go around and talk before they actually think and as soon as the moment hits, the cat's out of the bag.

Errgh. I need to emphasize that, no matter how accepting your friend might be of you being trans, and that you feel it's fine to tell them about *my* history, too, I didn't give you the consent to mention that and I really don't appreciate it. Who knows who might tell who and how much it might spread by word of mouth... I really don't need that, considering that's what I'm trying to avoid in the first place.

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Rainbow Dash

I must be freakin crazy! I applied, through the company, for a Fast pass. This would enable me to take loads in and out of Canada. The problem is, I don't have any of the proof that I am a US Citizen that they are requesting. Lol. But I am sticking with my original plan. I originally wanted to be able to visit Birkin but things have changed. Now I am driving for myself. I still love Birkin, I always will. But, between life at home and how badly I F'ed up my relationship with Birkin, I think I deserve to be alone.
In Ep. 26 of GITS: SAC 2nd GIG, there is a piece of dialog between Kuze and Kusanagi that  really says how I have felt for such a long time.

"Maybe the real reason I joined with them to keep the loneliness at bay."
"Yet in the end, you couldn't make it go away because, others could rely on you, but you couldn't rely on them."

Every time I get close or rely on someone, it just turns to crap. Case in point, the guy I am planning on driving team with is talking about going on to drive for US Express instead.
"Maybe I really joined with them to keep the loneliness at bay.
Yet in the end, you couldn't make it go away. Others could rely on you, but you couldn't rely on them."

"She's a little scared to get close to anyone because everyone who said, "I'll always be here for you," left."
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Rainbow Dash

I'm watching Highway through hell. The show is filmed in Canada, part of it is in northern Alberta Alberta looks gorgeous but seeing so many accidents on slick winter roads on the single stretch of highway makes me scared for Birkin. Looks like there are way too many dumbasses on the road there, in cars and semi trucks.
"Maybe I really joined with them to keep the loneliness at bay.
Yet in the end, you couldn't make it go away. Others could rely on you, but you couldn't rely on them."

"She's a little scared to get close to anyone because everyone who said, "I'll always be here for you," left."
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Adam (birkin)

Quote from: Daft on January 17, 2015, 01:04:03 PM
I'm kinda not feelin' the whole "I'm trans and you're trans and my friend knows I'm trans so I'm going to tell them you're trans because they're cool with it anyway" thing my trans friends continue to do, even though they're fully aware that I'm stealth on campus, stealth everywhere else in my life that isn't home or in some queer/LGBT* spaces.

I went over to my friend's apartment a little while ago and he introduced me to his roommate, who later made a comment about my facial hair and she noted how jealous my friend is of my progress for only being on hormones for seven months. I initially shrugged it off, but it's really not her business, nor anyone else's, to know about my medical transitioning and especially how long I've been on hormones for. I literally try as hard as I can to keep that information to myself, and I'm extremely guarded about my history--I'll only tell about it if I feel it's necessary, like with a psychologist or a medical professional or another trans person who's deeply curious. And it kind of worries me, considering the number of trans folks I know, who might go around and talk before they actually think and as soon as the moment hits, the cat's out of the bag.

Errgh. I need to emphasize that, no matter how accepting your friend might be of you being trans, and that you feel it's fine to tell them about *my* history, too, I didn't give you the consent to mention that and I really don't appreciate it. Who knows who might tell who and how much it might spread by word of mouth... I really don't need that, considering that's what I'm trying to avoid in the first place.

I've found that a lot of trans people, and cis people who claim to be "trans friendly" are really bad for cavalierly outing people...I didn't really fully realize the extent until I was 100% stealth. I have had several people who don't know I'm transgender talk about the topic to me. I remember one girl in particular was telling me she dated several FTMs and the "community" was soooo cool with her, and then she showed me their pictures saying "I dated her, I dated her, and I dated her too." And these guys were like...full beards man, two of them were showing off their top surgery in the pics so their chests were male. I was so offended on these guys behalf, I have to wonder if they know she 100% saw them as female and was outing them and referring to them as female to a total stranger. I remember the way I handled it too, I said "those guys look totally male to me, if you had never told me, I'd never have guessed they were born female. But it's none of my business." And I had someone who claimed to be a trans ally accidentally out me, she assumed this girl knew because we were close and mentioned something that explicitly referenced my female past...I called her out on it and to my knowledge she has been more respectful since.

And I've had more than one trans person be careless about mentioning my status to other people, I had one guy (clearly pre-T) make a blatant assumption at the doctor's office when I was earlier into transition and out me to the whole waiting room. Needless to say, it's made me a lot more careful.  who I associate with. When people claim to be trans friendly, or even say they are trans themselves, I keep my lips sealed now and I let them talk until they reveal their true attitudes.

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Ally_B

This day just isn't getting started. Thank goodness I don't need to commune w/ the real world today..... *sinks into couch w/ sulky fervour*
Don't stop to ask;
Now you've found a break to make it last.
You've got to find a way,
Say what you want to say;
Breakout
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King Malachite

My mom asked my if I had a vibrator....I went "what the heck?"  She just meant if I had anything that vibrated so she could put it on my sister's arm to feel better.
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"Sometimes you have to go through outer hell to get to inner heaven."

"Anomalies can make the best revolutionaries."
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Adam (birkin)

Quote from: King Malachite on January 17, 2015, 11:24:40 PM
My mom asked my if I had a vibrator....I went "what the heck?"  She just meant if I had anything that vibrated so she could put it on my sister's arm to feel better.

Ew lol
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King Malachite

Quote from: birkin on January 18, 2015, 12:30:51 AM
Ew lol

My thoughts exactly.  I actually thought she was referring to my packer at first.
Feel the need to ask me something or just want to check out my blog?  Then click below:

http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,135882.0.html


"Sometimes you have to go through outer hell to get to inner heaven."

"Anomalies can make the best revolutionaries."
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Daft

Quote from: birkin on January 17, 2015, 02:04:17 PM
I've found that a lot of trans people, and cis people who claim to be "trans friendly" are really bad for cavalierly outing people...I didn't really fully realize the extent until I was 100% stealth. I have had several people who don't know I'm transgender talk about the topic to me. I remember one girl in particular was telling me she dated several FTMs and the "community" was soooo cool with her, and then she showed me their pictures saying "I dated her, I dated her, and I dated her too." And these guys were like...full beards man, two of them were showing off their top surgery in the pics so their chests were male. I was so offended on these guys behalf, I have to wonder if they know she 100% saw them as female and was outing them and referring to them as female to a total stranger. I remember the way I handled it too, I said "those guys look totally male to me, if you had never told me, I'd never have guessed they were born female. But it's none of my business." And I had someone who claimed to be a trans ally accidentally out me, she assumed this girl knew because we were close and mentioned something that explicitly referenced my female past...I called her out on it and to my knowledge she has been more respectful since.

And I've had more than one trans person be careless about mentioning my status to other people, I had one guy (clearly pre-T) make a blatant assumption at the doctor's office when I was earlier into transition and out me to the whole waiting room. Needless to say, it's made me a lot more careful.  who I associate with. When people claim to be trans friendly, or even say they are trans themselves, I keep my lips sealed now and I let them talk until they reveal their true attitudes.

Yeah, I've come to notice that, too. I'm actually kind of regretful that I involved myself so much with the trans community in my area, the majority of those folks being fellow students, and since we all kind of know each other and the people we hang with, others (cis folks) are pretty much bound to find out that I'm trans, even if a friend just mentions that they met me through a trans group... sigh. And damn, that is ->-bleeped-<-ing awful. It makes me wonder how someone like that was able to actually date a trans guy, yet alone two or three, if she keeps referring to them as female. But if I were in your shoes, my response probably would've been pretty similar. I've definitely come to realize that if I still want to be stealth, and make sure my history is guarded, I can't involve myself too much with other trans folks or I'm gonna have to really "lay down the law" so to speak and emphasize that it isn't cool to just tell friends that I'm trans too, for whatever reason.

Rrrgh it's crap like this that kind of makes me want to turn into a loner or transfer to a different university just so I can fully be stealth, but I like the city I live in too much and I have good friends here and I kind of just have to put up with it and cross my fingers that my "status" hasn't been revealed too much for it to affect my student life or employment (although kind of too late on the latter, but it's alright).

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JHeron

Do any of you guys just want to be "normal"? I always dream of transitioning completely and moving somewhere new and just being a guy.  By normal obviously I mean not disclosing your being a trans guy to anyone. I know this topics controversial but why is it? Isn't it our right? I mean bio guys born with deformities or intersex or any sort of out of the norm qualities don't necessarily tell everyone they meet about it do they? Idk to me normal is just living your life
Suffering -- had given her a heart to understand what my heart used to be.
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: King Malachite on January 17, 2015, 11:24:40 PM
My mom asked my if I had a vibrator....I went "what the heck?"  She just meant if I had anything that vibrated so she could put it on my sister's arm to feel better.

:D Wow....
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Tossu-sama

I need a bigger table so I can lay down all the cards I need for effective deckbuilding (talking about MTG). I need a Standard deck.
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lilredneckgirl

Quote from: Daft on January 18, 2015, 12:04:26 PM
Yeah, I've come to notice that, too. I'm actually kind of regretful that I involved myself so much with the trans community in my area, the majority of those folks being fellow students, and since we all kind of know each other and the people we hang with, others (cis folks) are pretty much bound to find out that I'm trans, even if a friend just mentions that they met me through a trans group... sigh. And damn, that is ->-bleeped-<-ing awful. It makes me wonder how someone like that was able to actually date a trans guy, yet alone two or three, if she keeps referring to them as female. But if I were in your shoes, my response probably would've been pretty similar. I've definitely come to realize that if I still want to be stealth, and make sure my history is guarded, I can't involve myself too much with other trans folks or I'm gonna have to really "lay down the law" so to speak and emphasize that it isn't cool to just tell friends that I'm trans too, for whatever reason.

Rrrgh it's crap like this that kind of makes me want to turn into a loner or transfer to a different university just so I can fully be stealth, but I like the city I live in too much and I have good friends here and I kind of just have to put up with it and cross my fingers that my "status" hasn't been revealed too much for it to affect my student life or employment (although kind of too late on the latter, but it's alright).
I got  involved  early  on  in  the  trans  community  where  I  live.  needless  to  say,  shortly  there  after,  i  started  backing  out. 
  their  goals  seemed  to  constantly  live  in  that arena,  nstead  of  transitioning  through  it  into  main  stream life.    the  term  "  Drama"  comes  to  mind.  it  was  constant  and  endless. 
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Adam (birkin)

Quote from: JHeron on January 18, 2015, 06:22:56 PM
Do any of you guys just want to be "normal"? I always dream of transitioning completely and moving somewhere new and just being a guy.  By normal obviously I mean not disclosing your being a trans guy to anyone. I know this topics controversial but why is it? Isn't it our right? I mean bio guys born with deformities or intersex or any sort of out of the norm qualities don't necessarily tell everyone they meet about it do they? Idk to me normal is just living your life

No, me too. I don't see how my transitioning is relevant to anyone in my life other than my doctors and romantic partners. I also know from other men (who as far as I know are cisgender) it is totally normal to keep private things private. In fact, it seems to be encouraged. I'm a relatively open person in all other regards, but I think everyone has sensitive topics they don't wish to bring up most of the time.
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immortal gypsy

I've now bought my first pair of shoes for work, no more excuses for wearing jeans and sneakers.
NO! I'm turning into a grownup help me somebody please.
I can't let this happen, *stamps foot* I won't, I won't it's not happening
Do not fear those who have nothing left to lose, fear those who are prepared to lose it all

Si vis bellum, parra pacem
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JHeron

Quote from: birkin on January 18, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
No, me too. I don't see how my transitioning is relevant to anyone in my life other than my doctors and romantic partners. I also know from other men (who as far as I know are cisgender) it is totally normal to keep private things private. In fact, it seems to be encouraged. I'm a relatively open person in all other regards, but I think everyone has sensitive topics they don't wish to bring up most of the time.

Exactly. I am as well but i feel like if i got involved at all it would take over my life. It somewhat reminds me of an issue that i have with the gay community just because someone is something doesn't mean they want to openly discuss it like they would talk about common subjects like dinner or a tv show ya know? Like not every topic has to be about being trans or trans issues or advocating some of us just want to fix whatever it is we see wrong with ourselves and move on.
Suffering -- had given her a heart to understand what my heart used to be.
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Jessica Merriman

Life is a wonderful and beautiful experience!! :)
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DragonBeer

I so want to look like the guy in my avatar.  :laugh:
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ChiGirl

I think I feel like a big ol disgusting mess.  I took some selfies to get another look at myself and I hate what I see.  I look in the mirror and I see her behind these eyes, but this selfies?  Nothing but a fat, balding... thing.
Sorry.  I'm sure the feeling will pass. 
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