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Review of FreeToM Prosthetic

Started by zero.cool.crash.override, August 30, 2014, 02:16:53 PM

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zero.cool.crash.override

I purchased a FreeToM Sleek (the smallest) 4 in 1.  This one was on clearance due to an extra-large hole on the business end, and lacking the pleasure slide.





It is massive.  I selected the smallest model available, but it is still challenging to pack.  For size comparison, I pictured it with the Number One STP by Form Function and the extra small Mr. Limpy.


FreeToM says that they manufacture it with very thin silicone just under the base of the shaft so that it will fold down easier to pack.  It is very thin there, but still does not want to collapse.  It stands up on its own, even without the stiff rod inserted.  The silicone on the upper portion of the base of the shaft is quite thick.  I expect that any prosthetic that claims three functions will necessarily be either too small for play, or too large for easy packing.

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~Malachi Uriel

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zero.cool.crash.override

Quality
The physical prosthetic does look like the ones pictured on the website.  Mine has perhaps a bit less surface texture than those pictured.  There are a few little surface imperfections, but nothing major.  Several exterior spots have extra glossy silicone smudges, as though by sloppy handling during production.




FreeToM says, "All our prosthetics are hand made, which means sometimes we put layers of strong silicone on the inside of the cup, or the urination hole as needed for stronger protection. This is not a flaw and is all part of the molding process." What that really means is that they apply clear, glossy silicone with a brush to the inside of the receptacle.  This is extremely bumpy and uneven.  It provides many more nooks and crannies for urine and bacteria to collect.  It makes it harder to clean, and just doesn't feel nice. 



~Malachi Uriel

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zero.cool.crash.override

STP Function

The shape of the stp is neither a funnel nor a trough.  Rather, it is similar to a measuring cup with a spout.  This is a problem for me.  It seems to be designed to urinate into the bulbous receptacle, and the urine will start to trickle out only after the cup is full.  When finished, one must then lift, dump, squash, or otherwise pour the urine out of the scrotum.  Even when practicing in the shower, I find it difficult to properly drain the urine while holding the prosthetic in anything close to a natural position.  The tube hole at the base of the shaft is simply too high up and is lacking any type of graduated funnel.  It works if one points it straight down, holding the prosthetic directly under one's crotch, completely straddling a toilet.  Ah, no, not good.


Funnel, trough, cup with spout:


I find the size of the receptacle and the large footprint of the rim to be too big.  I do not need such a large target if I am holding it right up against me.  This size allows urine to go every which way, to pool and to splash.  Additionally, it is so wide that it can be accidentally collapsed onto itself by one's inner thighs if legs are not spread wide enough. 


It seems that the hollow form inside the shaft is not quite lined up with the opening at the head.  This can be seen when looking down the inside, and when viewing the overall shape of the penis.  The end of it is angled upward.  This is neat for an erect penis, but not so good for urinating.  The size of the hollow tube is quite small.  Inserting the flexible rod makes it even smaller.  The end of the flexible rod also creates a gap or lip where it meets the silicone.  This is another place for urine to accumulate.  And since it is possible to bend the rod into stiff angles, it is unfortunately easy to accidentally bend it wrong close to the opening, partially obstructing the flow.




~Malachi Uriel

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zero.cool.crash.override

Overall
Despite disappointment in fine details and functionality, I still like my FreeToM.  I like the shape and texture and veins.  This is all personal preference.  In essence, I just happen to like the original cis equipment upon which this prosthetic was molded.  As for size and functionality, I will probably modify my new dick to fit my needs. 

Any questions, please ask, although I have not tried the play or pleasure.

Little note: prosthetic shipped within United States via USPS 2-Day Priority.  And the presentation in the package was top notch.  Packaging a flexible silicone item inside an ocean mountain of packing peanuts is amusing, but it is a nice touch.
~Malachi Uriel

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Bimmer Guy

Great, great review.  Love, love the pictures, VERY much helps with understanding what you are trying to get across.  I appreciate that extra effort.

If I am reading you correctly, although you "still like your FreeTom", but you cannot actually recommend it as a good, functional STP or as a easy to pack, packer, correct? 
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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zero.cool.crash.override

Quote from: Brett on August 30, 2014, 03:34:28 PM
Great, great review.  Love, love the pictures, VERY much helps with understanding what you are trying to get across.  I appreciate that extra effort.

If I am reading you correctly, although you "still like your FreeTom", but you cannot actually recommend it as a good, functional STP or as a easy to pack, packer, correct?

I like the outside very much.  With my limited experience, it is difficult to pack.  I think that a Peecock probably packs much better because it is softer and more collapsible.  As for the large size of the, um, mounting bracket (the rim that presses against the pelvis), I think I can actually just trim it smaller, similar to shoe insoles that are meant to trimmed to size by the end user.  And as for the anti-funnel shape of the stp, I intend to modify that one way or the other. 

So, straight from the packaging, I cannot recommend it as a plug-and-play, ready to go stp packer.  It has potential, but I think that it could be designed and manufactured better.  And for the price, it ought to be well finished.  For me, though, I don't mind customizing it myself.
~Malachi Uriel

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Maleth

Thanks for the detailed review and so many pictures! They have been super helpful and help to allievate my anxiety whilst I wait for mine to arrive.

My two cents in regards to the Peecock are that it was easy to pack with if you want little to no bulge since it is made from a very soft and (almost) delicate silicone that is collapsible. It is good if one is seeking for a packer that can be compact, but it made a weird squishy noise if I tried to grab it due to hollowness. It packs well but I'm not sure whether it'd pass a squeeze test. The balls are also very hard and filled with a solid silicone. I liked my Peecock, but I can't wait to review my FreeTom that's currently in the mail.
I can do a direct comparison between the two if anyone would like that?
~Maleth
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zero.cool.crash.override

Quote from: Maleth on August 30, 2014, 08:02:15 PM
I can do a direct comparison between the two if anyone would like that?

Yes please!
~Malachi Uriel

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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: zero.cool.crash.override on August 30, 2014, 03:57:38 PM
I like the outside very much.  With my limited experience, it is difficult to pack.  I think that a Peecock probably packs much better because it is softer and more collapsible.  As for the large size of the, um, mounting bracket (the rim that presses against the pelvis), I think I can actually just trim it smaller, similar to shoe insoles that are meant to trimmed to size by the end user.  And as for the anti-funnel shape of the stp, I intend to modify that one way or the other. 

So, straight from the packaging, I cannot recommend it as a plug-and-play, ready to go stp packer.  It has potential, but I think that it could be designed and manufactured better.  And for the price, it ought to be well finished.  For me, though, I don't mind customizing it myself.

Thanks.  I think sometimes guys expect so little that we can get excited about the positives of a product and downplay the negatives.  I am not saying that I don't think that your review was balanced, but I was concerned that the positive ending (being happy that you purchased based mainly on looks), could keep guys from noting that the two functions that you reviewed (pack and play), were actually a "no go".

It is a lot of cash to put down for something that doesn't work "out of the box".

Thanks again for the great review.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Maleth

Quote from: Brett on August 30, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
I think sometimes guys expect so little that we can get excited about the positives of a product and downplay the negatives.

Yeah, it's true. Maybe we don't expect much because we haven't had something like a perfect product available out there and/or it hasn't been well-known or legit (i.e. Stealth from TUP which is a SCAM) if it *is* out there. FTMs always have to compromise when wanting to purchase themselves a prosthetic/packer. For example, ReelMagik's prosthetics absolutely excel in realism and looks, and (IMO) that's their strongest point. They also had an additional feature for a flex rod, but others have noted that it likes to make the crackling sound. And there's no STP function either. Of course RM has announced their STP model soon so that gives us Transmen the ability to Pack AND to Pee, but we are compromising the Play feature so that we can have a Peeing feature. But yeah, we expect so little and have to constantly compromise.. but I'm sure there is a prosthetic in the works out there that can satisfy all our needs but until then we can only gradually raise our expectations..

I'll admit, I've done what you said only cause every time I order a packer/prosthetic I'm just super excited :P

Quote from: zero.cool.crash.override on August 30, 2014, 08:11:48 PM
Yes please!
I can do a comparison section of the FreeTom versus my Peecock (4 inch), and all my other packers that I've had in the past which include: Mr Limpy XS & S (Both Limpy's have had nipple style STP), Stylishflesh Endy STP, RM Basic Packer, Masho. I'll focus mostly on comparing the Peecock and FreeTom, because they're most alike in features.


A question for you, zero.cool.crash.override, if you grip the material of the silicone in your hands and take out the rod so you just have the material itself and squeeze, how hard does it seem to you? Could you give us a comparison of the firmness/density to that of a regular object or perhaps another packer you've had in the past? Also, is weight an issue for you? I heard they're heavy.

Thanks!
~Maleth
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Bimmer Guy

Hey, Maleth.  I am definitely counting myself as one of the guys who focuses on the positives, especially when I first get the product (even if I use it for a while before reviewing it, it seems).  It seems like you are still searching for the one that completely satisfies you too, since you keep buying different ones.  Is that fair to say?

I still have yet to find the one that I am comfortable wearing daily, except for the Mr. Limpy xs (non- STP).  Weight is just too important to me.  I have ordered a small Sailor with nipple and I am waiting for it to come in.

I have like a crap load of pink (egad) Mr. Limpys in my drawer (8-10 years ago it was hard to find the one manufactured by Fleshlight, so I bought a bunch of them  - but in pink by mistake - and they have been sitting in my drawer)

About 3 months ago I ordered all of the STP tubing options from Tranzwear in order to try them all out (after putting them into the Limpys) to decide which was best.  After practicing with just the tubing, I decided on the nipple, but I am too lazy to mess with trying to put it all together, so a couple of weeks ago I just one with the tubing already inserted.  I am assuming it will be just another product that won't completely satisfy me (how sad is that assumption?), but they have been around forever and since they are cheap (relatively speaking), I figure I might as well give them a go in order to rule them out.

I have some hope for the Reel Magik STP IF it is at least 2-3oz lighter than their basic pack/prosthetic (which is 9.2 oz) and if the balls are indeed smaller (especially width of the balls), as they appear to be in the pictures.  I wish they would post the specs of the STP, I don't know why they are waiting on that, and they won't tell me via email.

I won't buy though, until I hear many positive reviews.  I still may not buy, however, as I doubt I will like the funnel option (based on my experience with the Go Girl).  I still find the Stylishflesh Endy to be the best for peeing.  I wish the spoon was thinner though, so it would fold more easily and button more easily.

I look forward to your comparison, you may want to post it into the sticky packer catalogue thread instead of this one, though.  More people will come across it that way (over time), and your reviews are top of the line.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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zero.cool.crash.override

Quote from: Maleth on August 31, 2014, 07:33:52 AM
A question for you, zero.cool.crash.override, if you grip the material of the silicone in your hands and take out the rod so you just have the material itself and squeeze, how hard does it seem to you? Could you give us a comparison of the firmness/density to that of a regular object or perhaps another packer you've had in the past? Also, is weight an issue for you? I heard they're heavy.

The weight is about 9 ounces with the flexible rod.  Removing the rod takes away about half an ounce.  I have trimmed some of the excess silicone around the base of the rim, reducing the overall weight by another once.  So, mine now weighs about 7 ½ ounces.  The extra small Mr. Limpy weighs in around 5 ounces on my scale.  Unfortunately, I have not yet solved the problem of permanent erection positioning when I attempt to pack with it.  Even when I tuck it down, it wants to pop up at its first opportunity.  As such, the weight has not yet had the opportunity to be an issue for me. 

As for gripping the material, it is definitely firmer than Mr. Limpy.  Without the rod, it does collapse on itself with a firm squeeze, which is very unnatural compared to the real deal erect penis.  This one is generally less firm and more flexible than a real erect penis.  And if it is squeezed, it does make the dreaded squelching sound from the moist hollowness inside.  As for density, I would compare it to a fresh orange (the fruit), or maybe a hot dog or sausage.  The problem is that it is not of uniform thickness.  The hollow inside the length of the shaft is completely straight, but the shaft is not straight.  This results in some sections very thick and others quite thin and soft.  Mine is a 4 in 1.  FreeToM states that their 2 in 1 is made of a softer silicone. 

The surface feeling is similar to clammy skin, slightly susceptible to collecting lint.  It is not as sticky as Mr. Limpy, but stickier than real skin. 

At this point I am pretty much building a DIY STP and shoving it inside the pretty packaging of the FreeToM Prosthetic.  I'd have to say that this is fail for a $100+ product.  The thing is, I really, really like the external appearance.  This is darn near exactly what I would want my own hypothetical anatomy to look like.  That is why I still like it and I am willing to work with it.  I prefer this appearance over that of Reel Magik.  For other guys out there who are not instantly attracted to any of FreeToM's models, I'd say keep looking elsewhere, 'cause this one has some severe design and quality issues. 
~Malachi Uriel

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Bimmer Guy

Hey,zero.cool.crash.override, I know I wasn't the one who asked the questions, but the additional information is quite appreciated.  I hope that you can create a proper STP, since you like the way it looks so much.  I agree with you on liking how it looks.  I like the look of this one and the Emisil.  I have never been a big fan of looks of the Reel Magik flaccid.   

I am wondering though, what is it that you can do to soften it enough to keep it flat in your pants?
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Codyboy1989

Ii appreciate the time you took to review this new product. I have to say I'm not very impressed with this...honestly looks terrible to me. The texture on the outside is very inconsistent and not very well done, the back looks very rough...I get they are handmade but so are prosthetics like reelmagik and ftm prosthetics...I expect the quality to be better for the pricing. The inner flexible rod just seems like it was not well thought out...it doesn't fit tight and it seems like the urine will run around the edges of it and get trapped inside the shaft, either causing dripping later or bacteria. I can't see urine passing very smoothly through this thing. The bowl looks very sloppy as well...I just can't see spending money on something like this, especially after hearing that it doesn't work well either:(

I'm obviously a huge fan of the reelmagik prosthetic, but it's for a very good reason...they look amazing and work very well.  I wouldn't buy something that doesn't fill those two important factors. After comparing actual photos of male genitalia, their 4.5" model looks as close to the real thing, much more so in my opinion than any other prosthetic on the market. Their new STP looks very sleek and smooth on the inside...it appears like they took a lot of time to design it and make it look very professional. I had a chance so see it in person at the convention in Philly and it looks as though gravity and the sleek inner funnel will allow the urine to flow very easily. I'm more excited for this than anything else at the moment.
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Maleth


Quote from: Brett on August 31, 2014, 10:04:15 AM
It seems like you are still searching for the one that completely satisfies you too, since you keep buying different ones.  Is that fair to say?

It is indeed fair to say that, Brett. One of the main reason of course why I buy different prosthetics and packers is to try them out and see which ones suit my personal needs/standards the best. However, I also want to contribute somehow to the community so I put my peener-hoarding (is that even a thing? LOL) and my writing skills together and bam, I can contribute by giving out reviews. The more, the merrier, right?

Quote from: Brett on August 31, 2014, 10:04:15 AM
  I still find the Stylishflesh Endy to be the best for peeing.  I wish the spoon was thinner though, so it would fold more easily and button more easily.
However, I can say that so far, my favorite to pack with is also the Endy as it has exceeded my expectations in both packing and STPing aspects (I have literally had 0 accidents with it, no joke). I'm pretty sure Gaspar is also working on improving the spoon, he's got a lot of ideas on improving other aspects of it too!


As far as I am satisfied with my Endy, I want to explore multi-purpose prosthetics with more features to suit my every-day needs.. say a packer that's got a good functional STP, doesn't make someone look like they have a stiffy, and is good to go for when you need to whip it out for play. In regards to this I really hope more companies make use of the pumping technology as seen in the Tyron. I think it'll be really innovative for multifunctional prosthetics.

Quote from: zero.cool.crash.override on September 01, 2014, 12:11:05 AM
The weight... (cont'd, I shortened the quote to lessen walls of text)
Thanks for the additional info, Zero! You've been infinitely helpful and very detailed in your review as well as answering my questions. I might consider trimming the extra silicone off of mine too though I would like to ask how did you do it with yours? I wanna be careful since silicone is much harder to work with than cyberskin to modify packers. In terms of density, I don't think Mr. Limpy is realistic at all as it feels way too squishy in comparison to even a flaccid penis. Though it kind of stinks to hear that the FreeTom makes the squishy sound when gripped because that was a problem I had with my Peecock.. I thought the silicone of the FreeTom would be firm enough to prevent that :/

What hooked me on these guys is the ability to a multifunctional packer and the looks of them (my first ever impression of FreeTom: a realistic peecock) but I see that they still have a lot of issues to fix and maybe in the future their products will be new and improved.
~Maleth
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zero.cool.crash.override

Quote from: Brett on September 01, 2014, 08:05:25 AM
I am wondering though, what is it that you can do to soften it enough to keep it flat in your pants?

Brett, I wish I knew.  I wore it around the house today in a snug fitting jock style undergarment.  That more or less smashed it against me with the dick straight down.  Not comfortable, though.  Like trying to shove a grapefruit in my pants.  Also quite damp from all the lingering urine in all the nooks and crannies.  And the flexible rod makes it very difficult to extract from pants to use in the bathroom.  The rod restricts it from bending too far or from folding.  And once I get it pointing out of my pants, it takes two hands to manually straighten the rod for peeing. 

Quote from: Codyboy1989 on September 01, 2014, 02:35:40 PM
Ii appreciate the time you took to review this new product. I have to say I'm not very impressed with this...honestly looks terrible to me. The texture on the outside is very inconsistent and not very well done, the back looks very rough...I get they are handmade but so are prosthetics like reelmagik and ftm prosthetics...I expect the quality to be better for the pricing. The inner flexible rod just seems like it was not well thought out...it doesn't fit tight and it seems like the urine will run around the edges of it and get trapped inside the shaft, either causing dripping later or bacteria. I can't see urine passing very smoothly through this thing. The bowl looks very sloppy as well...

Cody, your assessment is completely accurate.  Everything you've said here is true.  The urine does collect and does not flow well.  It seems like the velocity of the urine stream is reduced, even beyond the size of the opening.  It flows slowly, and at the conclusion of a session, one must wait quite a while for the remainder of the urine to dribble out straight down.  Regardless of how much I squeeze the base of the shaft and how ferociously I shake the thing, ample urine remains trapped. 
~Malachi Uriel

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aleon515

This is a very good review. I do think the guy is using "hand poured" as basically an excuse for the unfinished insides. I know of several prosthetics which finish the insides. There are ways to do that. Boy that 4.5 looks huge btw. I can't really imagine how you'd pack with it.

Excellent review btw. Giving you a point for it. :)

--Jay
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zero.cool.crash.override

Quote from: Maleth on September 01, 2014, 03:24:45 PM
I might consider trimming the extra silicone off of mine too though I would like to ask how did you do it with yours? I wanna be careful since silicone is much harder to work with than cyberskin to modify packers. In terms of density, I don't think Mr. Limpy is realistic at all as it feels way too squishy in comparison to even a flaccid penis. Though it kind of stinks to hear that the FreeTom makes the squishy sound when gripped because that was a problem I had with my Peecock.. I thought the silicone of the FreeTom would be firm enough to prevent that :/

I initially prepared to modify the FreeToM in a careful surgical procedure with bright lights, clean room, and an Xacto knife, but then I realized that I could do it easily with regular scissors.  Silicone is tough and stretchy, but it cuts easily.  I used an Xacto knife to clean out some extra material from inside the opening at the head.  That was trickier.  I sure wish the hollow tube in the shaft lined up properly with the opening at the end. 

As for the squishy sound, I've never handled a Peecock, so I can't compare them.  This one does make that sound, though.  The silicone is thick, but it will still collapse if the flexible rod is removed.  With the rod inside, or DIY vinyl tubing, it is stiffer on the inside and does not make that sound. 
~Malachi Uriel

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willows

Hello,
Thanks for your review.
There are so many separate posts on this product that I'm not sure which is the best thread to post on, but hopefully enough people will see this:

Has anyone bought the 2 in 1 version???
I ask because it seems most complaints about this product seems to be around the stiffness/inability to lay it flat in pants, it looking like a boner/feeling like one.

And most people have not even mentioned how it fares in play (as a penetrative force) which is the main reason I suppose they made the silicone firmer and why one would really need to use the rod.

So, if I could get some reviews on the boner feel of the 2 in 1 that will help me decide.

Also, if anyone has played with this thing...that'd be great to know how it fared.
I imagine that using this would be great with tight underwear.
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TheGrayWolf

Quote from: willows on November 08, 2014, 10:14:29 PM
Hello,
Thanks for your review.
There are so many separate posts on this product that I'm not sure which is the best thread to post on, but hopefully enough people will see this:

Has anyone bought the 2 in 1 version???
I ask because it seems most complaints about this product seems to be around the stiffness/inability to lay it flat in pants, it looking like a boner/feeling like one.

And most people have not even mentioned how it fares in play (as a penetrative force) which is the main reason I suppose they made the silicone firmer and why one would really need to use the rod.

So, if I could get some reviews on the boner feel of the 2 in 1 that will help me decide.

Also, if anyone has played with this thing...that'd be great to know how it fared.
I imagine that using this would be great with tight underwear.
I second this question. I'm also in the market for a new STP and I've been wondering about the 2in1 FreeToM. It's too expensive to just buy blind, and based on the review of the 4in1 I wouldn't get it. But I would like to know if anyone has bought the 2in1. Perhaps it's a better product since packing and STP are the main functions, rather than putting emphasis on 'play'.


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