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transgender woman wants to reverse sex change

Started by ChelseaAnn, October 01, 2014, 11:36:34 AM

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kira21 ♡♡♡

I have to say, I don't really know any trans people very well at all. A lot of people say things like that about trans groups or friends though.

katiej

Heather, I really don't get that. As an early transitioner I look up to transwomen who have transitioned successfully and pass well.

But having said that, the beautiful 22 year old who passes perfectly, lecturing us on why passing doesn't matter, can be a little irritating
"Before I do anything I ask myself would an idiot do that? And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." --Dwight Schrute
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Fifi33

 :-\ Bummer! I am in the midst of transitioning and deal with criticizm from numerous aspects. I am underestimated in certain aspects, and "the hurts" of that I am not transgender. Even though I am in total certainty (sp) that I am, and have never identified with my penis since a very young age. Of course sexual relief, but that even bothers me! (Thoughts of cutting it off, and everything "will be ok" after) Yes, those times where being naive was as close to transitioning as I could get, daydreaming being rushed to an ER and they have no other choice but to assign me a vagina.

I am a woman, early in transition and can be in total spotlight.. That being typed.. I cannot stand tucking.. enjoy results of doing so, but this story even more wants me to lose the "idgaf" attitude of EVERYONE knowing my gender identity along with my "personal" journey.. Pretty much I can BULGE, ;) and it was a throw to those who knew "hey, privacy please, and a sweet "fudge" to you".. also it is very awkward when people know you in various cities that when you do tuck, it is funny.. The 'ol, stick between legs deal... Grrr... This story.. and being masculine (not my true nature at all) and bringing forth SHE, for myself and to demonstrate myself to others.. WTF! People think I am confused or gay.. even straight or bi.. I am heterosexual (woman who likes men) Ugh, another story of gossips and stories.. I am so secure with one day going through the surgical process, to be plain Fenix.. Having my own place, a huge protective intelligent dog, witty cat, a career, friends, love of my life, good ganja, and a elevated me.. Transitioned to the point I have found me.. SHE.. If I retro-funk, Harley Davidson riding, bartender, musician.. Physicist <--Oh yea, w/e!! But I have always had visions and goals that I would have a "simple" life and a vagina was always included.. Minimally for sexual purposes with an idea that as I go through the surgery I will become more comfortable towards sex.. ALL dimensions we exist in are the reasons... I am a virgin because I cannot build confidence to have anal sex and honestly emberrassing as it is (o.0).. I do not want to have anal sex.. I am literally waiting for the "big show".. *Woah, what a rant*

Want to have sensual sex? Some rubbing, we should build a romatic relationship for a few years.. We can cuddle and do everything else but sex.. Wah! Hmph thought to self, this individual had their own set goals and intentions.. We understand who we are, stand strong.. Love is a high vibration, may it guide.. Through ALL adversities! Same to myself, life is there to even find that person who is your soulmate (for those of you who believe in such) that two souls DESERVING to be united in this lifetime can meet.. I trust in life and myself to find someone.. Now or whenever.. WHAT a total side track!! *Lo Siento*
but yea,

what a douche that guy is.
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Misato

Quote from: Heather on October 02, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
Thanks Suzi it wasn't you I've been moody all week. And this isn't a problem I've had on Susan's but in real life. Is that ever since I started passing as its called I've had other trans women basically shoot down my opinion on anything trans related. And they will tell me oh you pass so you shouldn't comment on this. That's why I'm a bit touchy when it comes to expressing my opinions.

*hugs*
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Alice Rogers

Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on October 02, 2014, 10:16:19 AM
The article is based on a piece by a UK rag caled the mirror which is known for trash talk and sound bite reporting.

Absolutely agree, I would take anything printed in that 'comic' with a HUGE pince of salt!
"I would rather be ashes than dust!
I would rather that my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot.
I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.
The function of man is to live, not to exist.
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
I shall use my time." Jack London
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VeryGnawty

QuoteTrans woman wants to reverse sex change operation because 'being a woman is exhausting'

Well, I find that being a HUMAN BEING is exhausting.  So, I'm not sure why he was expecting being a woman to be any easier.  As far as putting on make-up and high heels, nobody needs to do that anyway.  That is a personal choice.
"The cake is a lie."
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Lisa55

Interestingly he was on TV this morning telling his story, and i use he and his as he was presenting as male, all be it with rather large boobs.  The overall impression i got is that he is a very much an attention seeking individual.  This is not the first time he has sought out the media, his story has very much always been in the media and from a fairly young age.   The big news from his interview though was that he said he still had his 'junk' although somewhat shriveled up but apparently starting to come back to life (good old Philip schofield asking the important questions!).  So whilst he's sitting there on TV complaining that the system didn't work and had failed him, i was sitting there thinking, no it didn't, It worked perfectly, he had a RLT and whilst it took some time, he found out it wasn't for him, OK he has some big boobs to deal with, but he still has his stuff and can and probably will make a reasonable re-transition, assuming he doesn't change his mind again when the media start to forget about him.

Worryingly though from his soap box he seemed to be advocating greater gate keeping and having to undergo a year of psychiatric analysis before any other treatment such as HRT or RLT, 
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Jill F

Quote from: Debbie55 on October 07, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
Worryingly though from his soap box he seemed to be advocating greater gate keeping and having to undergo a year of psychiatric analysis before any other treatment such as HRT or RLT,

Yes, because those of us who truly suffer from severe gender dysphoria clearly need more obstacles and unnecessary expenses before we find any relief.
/snark

First of all, if I would have been forced to wait another year, I'm not sure I'd still be here.  Second, you can live your life as any gender (or neither/both if) you'd prefer, regardless of what hormones (or not) that you are taking.   I just hope that this case isn't blown out of proportion and made an example of that ends up being used against the majority of us.
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katiej

Quote from: Debbie55 on October 07, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
The big news from his interview though was that he said he still had his 'junk' although somewhat shriveled up but apparently starting to come back to life.

Wait a minute!  The outrage in the articles was that he had already had SRS on the taxpayers' dime (or whatever the British equivalent), and now was demanding a second, more expensive surgery.  Now we find out there was never even an original surgery?  WTH!

This of course is now all over the Internet giving fuel to anti-trans people because he reportedly had SRS and regretted it.  And the followup revelation will likely not be reported.  Crap like this is so damaging to us!

Fortunately for him the system worked and kept him from surgery.  Now if only there was a surgery that would change him from being an attention seeking media whore into a normal person.
"Before I do anything I ask myself would an idiot do that? And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." --Dwight Schrute
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kelly_aus

I think the fact that his first pass through the system earned him a rejection is somewhat telling.. Who wants to bet he want back and trotted out the 'Standard Trans Narrative(TM)'?
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EchelonHunt

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 07, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
I think the fact that his first pass through the system earned him a rejection is somewhat telling.. Who wants to bet he want back and trotted out the 'Standard Trans Narrative(TM)'?

When I first went through the system, I was initially rejected because my experiences of being transgender was "too textbook definition" despite the fact I had gone into detail about how I believed I was a boy prior to puberty because of my birth condition of having androgynous genitals (a penis-like clitoris had me believing I was a boy, go figure) and puberty forcing me into womanhood when I did not want it, nor did I identify as a woman whatsoever. Apparently, that was just too "textbook definition" for the psychiatrist treating me to even consider me allowing to transition.

So I guess by that psychiatrist's explanation, there is "not trans enough" or "too trans enough" which is laughable at best. ???
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Alice Rogers

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 07, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
I think the fact that his first pass through the system earned him a rejection is somewhat telling.. Who wants to bet he want back and trotted out the 'Standard Trans Narrative(TM)'?

He probably did, but plenty of other real transgender people do that anyway, how many of us if we are honest tell the therapists, psychiatrists and psychologists exactly what we think they need to hear just to satisfy them and get them out of the way?

I have known I was transgender for over 25 years but I only started my transition recently but I still didn't fit their little ticky boxes like 'sits down to pee' and 'played with dolls', the temptation to just sit there and nod when they asked me that stuff was almost overwhelming.

On another note though I think the 'gatekeeping' is just fine in the UK I don't know about elsewhere, I DO believe one thing should change though, with regards to MtF's I wonder if it would be possible to put us on low doses of Anti-androgens while we go through the system as this wouldn't have any permanent physical effect but it WOULD alleviate dsyphoria in many cases and let us girls think with a clearer head while we are jumping through all the NHS hoops.

Alice
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"I would rather be ashes than dust!
I would rather that my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot.
I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.
The function of man is to live, not to exist.
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
I shall use my time." Jack London
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Emmaline

One thing that doesnt ring true is the amount of time this person was on hrt, and yet said 'testicles shrink to the size of peas'.  By that stage they would be little more than jelly, right?

I dunno.  That and the boob comments... Feels suspect to me.
Body... meet brain.  Now follow her lead and there will be no more trouble, you dig?



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Ms Grace

The cis media (especially Murdoch hate rags) take a certain amount of glee in reporting stories like this (true or not)..."see, we told you that they were nuts all along!"
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Ms Grace on October 08, 2014, 06:28:18 AM
The cis media (especially Murdoch hate rags) take a certain amount of glee in reporting stories like this (true or not)..."see, we told you that they were nuts all along!"

The hell with them. They are all losers and money hungry sensationalist scumbags anyway.
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Jill F

What annoys the hell out of me is that the only transsexuals that anyone ever seems to hear about from the media are the exceptions to the norm.  We hear about the ones who get murdered and assaulted, the ones who regret it all and the ones who defy the odds to become prominent businesspeople, models, porn stars and actors.

Nobody ever hears the story of the vast majority of us who just try to live as normal lives as they can, work regular jobs, feed the kids, and do what is necessary to survive in a sometimes hostile environment.   Maybe if that's the image most people got of transfolk, we wouldn't end up with nearly as many problems as we do, and perhaps even some more sympathy from the cis world.

Suck it, media.  And thanks for nothing.
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katiej

"Transgender goes to work and pays her bills on time" is not a very grabby headline. And we all know that's really all they care about. It's about generating attention, not about reporting the truth. Kim kardashian is a world-famous millionaire for a reason.
"Before I do anything I ask myself would an idiot do that? And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." --Dwight Schrute
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Jill F

Quote from: katiej on October 08, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Kim kardashian is a world-famous millionaire for a reason.

Because her famous stepdad is speculated to be having a sex change? *le facepalm*
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: katiej on October 08, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
"Transgender goes to work and pays her bills on time" is not a very grabby headline. And we all know that's really all they care about. It's about generating attention, not about reporting the truth.

Yep. The media is nothing more than a pathetic joke.
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Jill F

Quote from: katiej on October 08, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
"Transgender goes to work and pays her bills on time" is not a very grabby headline. And we all know that's really all they care about. It's about generating attention, not about reporting the truth. Kim kardashian is a world-famous millionaire for a reason.

So it seems that nobody outside of Susan's will ever hear a story like:

"Jill F, a male-to-female transsexual, got up in the morning, made a cup of coffee and checked her email.  She took a long, hot shower, washed her hair and shaved her underarms and legs.  She then dried herself off, took her estrogen, and decided on a black and white striped skirt with a teal top for the day.  Looking through the refrigerator, she noticed her cisgender wife had depleted most of the eggs and milk earlier that morning and contemplated a trip to the grocery store.

While at the grocery store, nobody seemed to notice or care that Jill happened to be a six-foot-two transsexual woman.  They just went about their business.

Later that day, she called her mother to let her know that she was OK, everything was fine and that two of her guitars had recently sold for a fair price."

It would be so nice to let the rest of the world in on my little secret:  News flash- I'M BORING.  Alert the media! 

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