The odd one out in LGBT

[kaye]

We know that gender indentity has nothing to do with sexual orientation, so why have we attached ourselves to a movement that spends 90% of the time carrying on about same-sex marriage leaving us as basically an after thought?

If the point if it all has been to bring trans awareness into the mainstream then this association has failed. We're bringing our own awareness into the mainstream with trans icons like Laverne Cox. I don't view the LGBT movement as doing much for us to be honest.

What do you think?

[Mitchell the Deathbell]

I've been reading a lot about this. About the whole "LGB but what about the T?" It is true... there has been more focus on same-sex marriage
(which does apply to me since I am a gay transman and hope to marry my fiance someday).

Also, it bugs me a lot when I think about how Transgender is included in the LGB movement when "transgender" isn't a sexual orientation.
I guess it's a part of the movement because transgender people go through discrimination and struggles similar to gay, lesbian, and bisexual folks.

I wonder how things would be if there was the same determined excitement and passion for transgender issues as there is for marriage equality?
Maybe someday...   

[Blue Senpai]

Because, unfortunately, they're all we got in terms of numbers. If we isolate trans activists, they are very few and they are not enough in speeding up acceptance for us. Doesn't help when most want to go stealth because of discrimination in the job market which slows the progress down because many people don't want to be the ones to sacrifice stealth for faster political advancement. Visibility and having a voice made up of many people is very important and without that, you can hardly wonder why we aren't a huge priority.

Call this stealth shaming if you will but it's the reality. If my parents won't come to bat for me, I can't expect strangers to do so. Maybe when I reach a good point in my transition, I'll start getting serious in activism.

[Ali girl]

Because, unfortunately, they're all we got in terms of numbers. If we isolate trans activists, they are very few and they are not enough in speeding up acceptance for us. Doesn't help when most want to go stealth because of discrimination in the job market which slows the progress down because many people don't want to be the ones to sacrifice stealth for faster political advancement. Visibility and having a voice made up of many people is very important and without that, you can hardly wonder why we aren't a huge priority.

Call this stealth shaming if you will but it's the reality. If my parents won't come to bat for me, I can't expect strangers to do so. Maybe when I reach a good point in my transition, I'll start getting serious in activism.

You beat me to it.

I know many girls who have gone "stealth".   My personal view for my self is going to be open as I have been.   Being open at my workplace and willing to laugh at situations with others has helped me to survive... This has also helped many at my workplace to really not worry about my situation because I have answered all their questions.   You go stealth... That's one less voice saying it is possible, or you can do it...

[Mitchell the Deathbell]

Because, unfortunately, they're all we got in terms of numbers. If we isolate trans activists, they are very few and they are not enough in speeding up acceptance for us. Doesn't help when most want to go stealth because of discrimination in the job market which slows the progress down because many people don't want to be the ones to sacrifice stealth for faster political advancement. Visibility and having a voice made up of many people is very important and without that, you can hardly wonder why we aren't a huge priority.

Call this stealth shaming if you will but it's the reality. If my parents won't come to bat for me, I can't expect strangers to do so. Maybe when I reach a good point in my transition, I'll start getting serious in activism.

I didn't even think about that... you're very correct. In regards to numbers, we're not nearly enough to make a big impact alone.
And to be honest, being visible as a trans activist can be dangerous, which may be why it's not a favored idea.
I wanted to be a trans activist but my fiance is more concerned about my safety.

[Nicole]

I posted about this before.
I don't get why we are labeled and put in with the GLB groups when what we are has nothing to do with who we sleep with.
People them said it was more to do with people needing us to belong somewhere and they do offer support.

The LGB groups do stand up for us when we really need it, but trams role models are helping us stand on our ow.n.

[Blue Senpai]

I didn't even think about that... you're very correct. In regards to numbers, we're not nearly enough to make a big impact alone.
And to be honest, being visible as a trans activist can be dangerous, which may be why it's not a favored idea.
I wanted to be a trans activist but my fiance is more concerned about my safety.

Oh I don't mean get out there and make speeches. I could never do that, at least how I am now currently. I could never command a crowd or be invited to colleges to make talks like Ryan Sallans or Skylar Kergil. Though transitioning might give me the confidence to do that someday, I'm most likely going to be on the sidelines writing on a blog and portraying an informed opinion on current news. Maybe pick up the mantle of Matt Kailey, who knows.

[Mitchell the Deathbell]

Oh I don't mean get out there and make speeches. I could never do that, at least how I am now currently. I could never command a crowd or be invited to colleges to make talks like Ryan Sallans or Skylar Kergil. Though transitioning might give me the confidence to do that someday, I'm most likely going to be on the sidelines writing on a blog and portraying an informed opinion on current news. Maybe pick up the mantle of Matt Kailey, who knows.

Oh, whoops then! I probably can't do that either, but I'd totally want to. I gotta understand that I'm just not a public speaker (I think I got a C or B or something in my public speaking class.) I'd probably croak up and cry or something, hahah.
Staying on the sidelines writing blogs and opinions sounds like a safer alternative. You won't even have to disclose who you are.

[LordKAT]

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