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packing removed today, no dilation I'm crying and scared, please help

Started by onescaredquestion, October 21, 2014, 11:47:14 PM

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onescaredquestion

I had my packing removed today and the doctor measured the depth and it was 6" and I felt it inside me and I saw the 6" on the dilator but afterwards he said can't dilate today, it's too swollen, have to wait for the swelling to go down.
I looked and I couldn't find ANY reference of starting dilation 3 DAYS after removing packing.:'( well on the THIRD day but still.
I said it will close but both the doctor and the nurses  (after the dr was gone ) said it won't

Is this true? It is pretty swollen and blue black but doesn't look dead or botched (to me) but then how do I know?
I wanted a picture and they asked for my phone but it was hard to reach so a non medical employee took a picture and I didn't ask to see it right away and when I did she said she had to go but would be back but she hasn't yet.

Details: removing the packing was painless.
There was so much that I believe 6"will fit in there but I couldn't feel much.
I did feel the dilator in me, it took the doc 15 sec to insert it completely and Isaw it was up to about 6"iinside. I sawthe 6 bbut I didn't quite see it in the hole but I felt it... it looked to be maybe1" thick but. I'm not sure how good I am at estimating VNPVEF.

Des anything sound off? :/

Ps. I don't care if it's 6 inches or five or 4 point something,I really just don't want it to close!!
I've read that the first day it should be dilated for HOURS but mine isn't going to be dilated at all before 48h after removing the packing?? I don't understand! is this normal?
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onescaredquestion

The packing that came out was a HUGE amount. Afterwards it didn't look prolapsed, pretty much the same which is horrible because it's so swollen.
The Dr said my swelling is because of excess skin, need to wait for it to go down to see if I need a touchup.

The only reference to not starting dilation right I was that I've read was from Prichet when there was no depth and he told the poor patient to only start at home so his deception wouldn't be revealed

But I'm different, I'm a local patient, I don't think there's any deception going on, I just don't understand :'( won't a lot of it contract and close in these 48 hours or so?

I'm trying not to panic and disinfect a shampoo bottle or my fingers and shove them in...
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onescaredquestion

I haven't read anything bad about the dr and he's been doing this for a very long time but then who knows...
Does someone have any answers?
This was probably a bad time to ask, everyone is asleep :(
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Delsorou

Hi.  I'm not asleep, but you probably should try to be.  Please don't shove anything anywhere, especially not after such a short amount of time, you'll pull out stitches if you do that.

It's NOT going to heal over and close up in one day.  That's not possible.  Right now you need the swelling to come down, and your main concern should be not popping stitches!  Do not put ANY more strain on those stitches than you have to.  Saving the stitches is why your doctor has not tried to insert anything again - and he's right to wait.

Now try and get some rest.  :)
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: Delsorou on October 22, 2014, 12:21:50 AM
Hi.  I'm not asleep, but you probably should try to be.  Please don't shove anything anywhere, especially not after such a short amount of time, you'll pull out stitches if you do that.

It's NOT going to heal over and close up in one day.  That's not possible.  Right now you need the swelling to come down, and your main concern should be not popping stitches!  Do not put ANY more strain on those stitches than you have to.  Saving the stitches is why your doctor has not tried to insert anything again - and that's exactly what needs to happen.

Now try and get some rest.  :)

Thank you thank you thank you so much for being a wonderful person, I'm crying so much right now. Thank you :'( so you're sure nothing will close in 2 days? It's 48 hours after all...
I noticed the stitches (outside ones anyway) were kinda stretched to their limit so you're probably right... the doctor said something to that effect but I got so scared after hearing there won't be any dilation today or tomorrow :/ I didn't listen to every word,I just heard there's too much swelling due to excess skin and that's why we should wait 2 more days before dilating.
I'm actually not in America, it's not sleepy time for me yet.
Thank you *hug* for replying. Thank you.
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Delsorou

Nope, not going to completely close up after two days any more than a piercing would.  Might get a little tighter, but right now the stitches and swelling are your biggest worry.  And guess what makes swelling worse?  High blood pressure from being too worked up over it!

Watch some TV, read a book... take your mind off it.  It will be FINE.  Six inches is a great result and it's not going to go away in days.

Also, welcome to the forums.  Hope you stick around for more than one question.  :)
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: Delsorou on October 22, 2014, 12:31:15 AM
Nope, not going to completely close up after two days any more than a piercing would.  Might get a little tighter, but right now the stitches and swelling are your biggest worry.  And guess what makes swelling worse ?  High blood pressure from being too worked up over it!

Watch some TV, read a book... take your mind off it.  It will be FINE.  Six inches is a great result and it's not going to go away in days.

Also, welcome to the forums.  Hope you stick around for more than one question.  :)

Okay...thank you... please answer one more question. What things will make it close faster? Walking? Moving?.my butt is numb but I was even afraid to change my position from knees together and up low, feet apart shoulder width which I figured would be the most"open"position... I should move something to the table over there but should I avoid too much walking? I'm allowed to walk though. I would call the nurse but I don't like this one... But I should tell her I probably won't eat dinner. I don't feel like eating before everything is fine, at least more than snacks...But I can't be weak so I try to nibble...

But I worry because I had a tongue piercing and after I swallowed it it closed completely in either 1 or 2 days and as far as I understand, this is the same kind of tissue, fast to close?

Ps the only thing I have left to watch iszombies... iI don't think there's cable or at least not the channels I watch... I guess after this many days I should check? But I brought my own dvd player!
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Monkeymel

Really try to relax and sleep. Healing the skin grafts inside is the highest importance!
You won't close in a few days. It might take slightly longer to reach full depth with narrower dilator diameter - but by the sounds of it you are in a clinic and therefore in good hands.

Depth is not the defining factor for a man. Rather diameter - but that can only be addressed by slowly stretching healed skin. And takes many months to slowly work up to.

Closing faster - you can normally go 2-3 days withou issues but it is not recommended. Walking won't effect it. Being scared and not healing probably will.

Do not play with your new body parts. Doing so will cause you problems. Relax and be guided by the doctors.
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: Monkeymel on October 22, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
Really try to relax and sleep. Healing the skin grafts inside is the highest importance!
You won't close in a few days. It might take slightly longer to reach full depth with narrower dilator diameter - but by the sounds of it you are in a clinic and therefore in good hands.

Depth is not the defining factor for a man. Rather diameter - but that can only be addressed by slowly stretching healed skin. And takes many months to slowly work up to.

Do not play with your new body parts. Doing so will cause you problems. Relax and be guided by the doctors.

Okay,I won't,I really don't want to do anything to mess this up. I actually accidentally played with the outside parts the other day but just a bit through the bandage *embarrassed* I won't touch anything anymore.
As long as it doesn't close...But what's stopping the opening Don closing, wouldn't it close really fast?

If anyone feels like pming, would be nice too...
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onescaredquestion

Okay,I just found out I have cable! Like, all the channels. This will help take my mind off my worries! Luckily...
I'm watching Syfy and not even embarrassed!



I'm going from smiling to crying in 15 second intervals





Delsorou I owe you so much, you were there for me right when I needed it, ask for my help any time (maybe when I've been released and not panicking...) I'll try to help.
Sometimes a few calm and supportive words are all you need.
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Monkeymel

You can't reply to pm until more than 15 posts.

The hole will not slam shut and close. The internal tissues will have been carefully separated. The muscle cut and cauterized. The skin grafts laid inside and given new blood supply. That has to heal safely!

Think of a cut on your arm. Does the skin heal over in 2 days? (Wolverine style?). No. There might be a scab because wound interacts with fresh air - but it is not healed especially if it is deep wound. Paranoia is your worst enemy.

The dilation schedule for Dr Chettawut is online. You dilate for 10 minutes only the first few days. That's out of 1440 minutes (whole day). No one heals over unless they skip that schedule entirely.

Get some sleep. Eat healthy. Move as you need to, and stop worrying!
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Delsorou

Watch TV, take a breather, let the nice drugs do their job.  Rest easy, you're going to be fine.  Glad we could help.  :)
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: Delsorou on October 22, 2014, 01:10:10 AM
Watch TV, take a breather, let the nice drugs do their job.  Rest easy, you're going to be fine.  Glad we could help.  :)

I only got morphine and other strong stuff the first couple of days. on the third day they were already ignoring my request for morphine but then I didn't REALLY need it, maybe they knew that. I got 300mg codein with meals, now it's just 100mg and antibiotics and something to help with the swelling. They didn't even use the IR lamp today to help with the swelling, not yet anyway. Maybe I should ask for it? I just took a careful peek, it seems like the stitches on the outside aren't stretched anymore. I take that as a good sign :) I'm still a little scared though because thigh I'm not Wolverine, I can sometimes heal really fast. I hope that won't be the case now. And yeah, though swollen, everything looked pretty separated, so I'll have to trust that...
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Julieb1

I didnt dilate till 24 hrs after and it was fine but once you do start trt not miss a session although we all do miss some and make sure you get to depth.

julie x
Postop 19th march 2014
Dr sanguan
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kelly_aus

Quote from: onescaredquestion on October 22, 2014, 01:48:46 AM
I only got morphine and other strong stuff the first couple of days. on the third day they were already ignoring my request for morphine but then I didn't REALLY need it, maybe they knew that. I got 300mg codein with meals, now it's just 100mg and antibiotics and something to help with the swelling. They didn't even use the IR lamp today to help with the swelling, not yet anyway. Maybe I should ask for it? I just took a careful peek, it seems like the stitches on the outside aren't stretched anymore. I take that as a good sign :) I'm still a little scared though because thigh I'm not Wolverine, I can sometimes heal really fast. I hope that won't be the case now. And yeah, though swollen, everything looked pretty separated, so I'll have to trust that...

They'll give limited morphine for a reason.. Morphine addiction sucks and can happen quite quickly..
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: Julieb1 on October 22, 2014, 04:06:21 AM
I didnt dilate till 24 hrs after and it was fine but once you do start trt not miss a session although we all do miss some and make sure you get to depth.

julie x

I won't miss any! I think it's way tooimportant.honestly, I'm sure iI won't miss a single season.actually, is it bad if I do extra sessions? Because I want to? For the first month anyway. I could be dilating absent mindedly all day long...
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kelly_aus

Quote from: onescaredquestion on October 22, 2014, 05:07:18 AM
I won't miss any! I think it's way tooimportant.honestly, I'm sure iI won't miss a single season.actually, is it bad if I do extra sessions? Because I want to? For the first month anyway. I could be dilating absent mindedly all day long...

<sarcasm>When you're done with all that dilating, can I park my truck in there?</sarcasm>

Follow your surgeons instructions for dilation.. They have the routine they do for a reason...
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 22, 2014, 05:14:37 AM
<sarcasm>When you're done with all that dilating, can I park my truck in there?</sarcasm>

Follow your surgeons instructions for dilation.. They have the routine they do for a reason...

I don't think that's how it works...and even if it did I could just stop dilating.for a week or two and it would get a little smaller...hahaha. I really don't think a little extra is bad. I mean, what if you want to use a dildo to pleasure yourself?.are you going to think "nope, my minutes for today are up, I can't".dildo or medical dilator, same difference... but no I won't do it all day long. But does anyone know if it's good or bad to do a little extra?
I'm the kind of a person who would do that, it would come naturally to me, if itdoesn't bcause any harm.
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kelly_aus

Follow your surgeons instructions for dilation.. They have the routine they do for a reason...

Seriously, follow your surgeons instructions, they know what they are talking about.. All I can see extra dilation doing is making things looser than they need to be..
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onescaredquestion

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 22, 2014, 05:24:51 AM
Follow your surgeons instructions for dilation.. They have the routine they do for a reason...

Seriously, follow your surgeons instructions, they know what they are talking about.. All I can see extra dilation doing is making things looser than they need to be..

Yeah okay...
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