Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 4.0

[femmebutt]

Sorry i got a little crazy. You post very often and everyone just gives you the usual "you're pretty and you pass" comments. I thought maybe you'd like something deeper. I suppose you could call it an evaluation.. but it's all just my personal opinion and I want to help ppl.

I thought your evaluation was spot on Rotika. Exactly what I was going to say, in fact, from the compliments through to the criticism. Very brave of you Barbie to submit a video into a thread of this nature. And how great to be able to gain insight from our sisters and brothers! I hope to do one soon should I find the courage...

[cindianna_jones]

Barbie, this is the first I have seen you walk Take smaller steps. A man tends to walk with his feet remaining parallel to the direction he is walking. Each foot goes precisely forward. A woman will tend to put one foot in front of the rear. Also, focus a bit on your posture. Another thing you can do is slightly twist your ankle on the trailing foot a bit when walking in heels. Watch women who wear heels. Notice how they do these things.

Cindi

[Nanashi]

Hello, been reading around a lot today and came across this forum. I've recently been giving a lot of thought this whole process again(such a huge decision). I haven't seen anyone just yet for gender therapy, but planning to soon. Read a lot around these forums and everyone seems so nice, I actually read a vast majority of posts in this topic. Hehe.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my face, I haven't had any hormone therapy or anything at all yet, fresh out of the shower, no make up or anything. I need to lose a bit of weight though v_v
I'm just hoping to get an idea how feminine y'all think I might look after I began therapy. I don't think I look too masculine. ^_^

[Rotika]

Hello, been reading around a lot today and came across this forum. I've recently been giving a lot of thought this whole process again(such a huge decision). I haven't seen anyone just yet for gender therapy, but planning to soon. Read a lot around these forums and everyone seems so nice, I actually read a vast majority of posts in this topic. Hehe.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my face, I haven't had any hormone therapy or anything at all yet, fresh out of the shower, no make up or anything. I need to lose a bit of weight though v_v
I'm just hoping to get an idea how feminine y'all think I might look after I began therapy. I don't think I look too masculine. ^_^

Well, you have a very feminine face. I'd like to suggest Piyo. Will help with your weight loss. Would like to see what you do with your makeup though.

[stephee72]

Rotika,
Thanks for honesty, but I know I don't pass, just my first experiment with make up since I was 23. I have been in hiding since, always waiting to bloom. I just got brave and posted for the first time ever my face...SCARY I know... ....Thanks for the make up tips, I will try that. in time I will lose all the weight and get better at this. Just got to stay positive. Be true to me inside.

[androgynouspainter26]

Ok, so here's some proof that you can't really determine passibility from a flattering selfie.  The first picture is from yesterday in VERY light makeup; the second one is me today, no makeup.  Here's for anyone who says I pass. 





If this is what I'm gonna look like forever, it's time to detransition, at least until FFS is on the table.  I've thought it over, and I can barely go out in public anymore. 

[Mariah]

Ok, so here's some proof that you can't really determine passibility from a flattering selfie.  The first picture is from yesterday in VERY light makeup; the second one is me today, no makeup.  Here's for anyone who says I pass. 





If this is what I'm gonna look like forever, it's time to detransition, at least until FFS is on the table.  I've thought it over, and I can barely go out in public anymore.

The first one doesn't really lean either direction, but I have to agree with you on the second one. Hugs
Mariah


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[androgynouspainter26]

It's time just to give in.  I have a man's face and a man's body.  I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight.  If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male.  I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.

[Mariah]

It's time just to give in.  I have a man's face and a man's body.  I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight.  If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male.  I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.

I still feel your being to hard on yourself. To help prove that point. I'm going to show you a photo of me without the makeup, wig, and not even having shaved the few hairs that remain on my face off in the morning yet to prove a point. Because everything we do be it the makeup, the wig in my case or anything else can does in many cases make the difference. Hugs
Mariah

[kittenpower]

It's time just to give in.  I have a man's face and a man's body.  I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight.  If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male.  I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.

I'm sorry that you are at this point, but if you do decide to de transition, it may benefit you to stay on HRT, so that if you decide to transition again in the future when you have the money for surgeries you want, you will have increased feminization from the estrogen.  Anyway, whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best <3

[ImagineKate]

Whatever makes you happy androgynous painter. I hope you can find your peace.

[barbie]

Barbie, this is the first I have seen you walk Take smaller steps. A man tends to walk with his feet remaining parallel to the direction he is walking. Each foot goes precisely forward. A woman will tend to put one foot in front of the rear. Also, focus a bit on your posture. Another thing you can do is slightly twist your ankle on the trailing foot a bit when walking in heels. Watch women who wear heels. Notice how they do these things.

Cindi

Rotika and Cindi, thanks for nice comments on my walking posture.
Yesterday I took self videos in the coast of my home town. As the sea water is still cold, it was windy, foggy and cold in the coast.
I just walked as usual. A lot of women watched me, but I did not care.
I stopped at a coffee store. An aged man working there said hello to me. I was there last September, and this guy still remembers me. Embarrassing!

Anyway, an edited video clip featuring myself.



Next time, I may take video while drinking and chatting with my friends, but.... the problem is the privacy of my friends... I am not quite sure.

Actually, I do not care whether I pass or not.

Cheers!

barbie~~

P.S. I modified the URL of the youtube video. My little daughter uses my youtube account, and complained about the video. I switched to my Google+ account.

barbie~~

[Alaia]

No makeup, boy clothes... do I fail as male?





And then there's this one, it's not the best lighting or angle, and I picked it for that reason since it's pretty close to how people see me. How well do I pass here??




Better lighting and angle:

[Serena]

No makeup, boy clothes... do I fail as male?





And then there's this one, it's not the best lighting or angle, and I picked it for that reason since it's pretty close to how people see me. How well do I pass here??




Better lighting and angle:

How is that considered male clothes?  Maybe just in the first picture, but yeah you just look like a cis woman wearing an androgynous shirt.

[Serena]

So what? A lot of women need make up to look pretties or pass, me too... I don't think you will live happy if you detransitioned, maybe you want to reconsider things... You look androgynous to me... I think that with longer hair, make up, etc... You can pass, and that's all you need now that you can't afford ffs... Also, I don't see a male body at all, you're really petite just like most cis women.

[Mickie]

Me in my Misty Cosplay, do I pass you guys???

[Shawn Sunshine]

Ash Ketchum is going to have a field day.

[kittenpower]

Me in my Misty Cosplay, do I pass you guys???

Really, you mean you aren't cis? 

[stephaniec]

Really, you mean you aren't cis? 

love your body

[Squircle]

It's time just to give in.  I have a man's face and a man's body.  I'm going to talk to my mom about ffs tonight.  If she says no, I'm going to return to living and presenting as male.  I feel like I'm lying to people when I introduce myself as otherwise.

Ok, well it feels like you've made your mind up and you clearly aren't happy so I think you should go ahead and detransition at least temporarily to see how you feel then. You could leave your hair as it is and stay on the hormones but go back to presenting male. If nothing else it will help with long term decisions.

For what it's worth I looked nowhere near as good as you before my ffs, and I was full time for a year like that. You claim that you would have to spend tens of thousands, and perhaps that's true at the top American surgeons, but I got mine done for around £8k in Europe. And you wouldn't need much anyway.