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New years off to a rocky start

Started by Leah443, January 01, 2015, 04:52:49 PM

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Leah443

First i just wanna point out that for the most part (and by most i mean like 98% of it) my transitioning has been wonderful. no family shaming, a little shunning but who needs em, and for the most part my friends have been very accepting. even college is going great, my grades have actually improved! but yesterday something hit me harder then anything i could have ever expected. I was going to go to a friends new years party. not fancy or night clubby but just a get together with friends soda pizza and video games. i was very much looking forward to it as friends who i don't usually get a chance to see were going to be there. well while talking to the host who is one of my closest friends i asked him if he had told his parents about me yet because they were going to be there and the last time i saw them i was guy mode and even more sensitive then i am now, even though from some of my posts it doesn't seem like it. well he told me that no he hadn't. the reason i wanted to know is because i don't like to make people uncomfortable and right now I'm progressed far enough into my transition that i can't hide how i look. more importantly i don't want to hide! i can't stand hiding. he told me he hadn't told them because they are really religious. i asked what he wanted to do and he told me it would probably be better for me to not show up. i kind of expected this but i still felt like i was being electrocuted. i promptly got off my computer and headed to my room where i started to melt down. normally I'm a silent cryer but in this case not so much. my closest friend didn't want me there. to make matters worse we are getting even more distant. i guess the reason i am posting this is i need to get it off my chest as i don't really have people around me that are available to talk to and i was wondering if anybody else had something similar happen and (if its not too personal) how did they handle it. does it get better? I'm scared to come out to some of my other friends now because i don't want the same thing happening with them. Thanks for listening to me ramble i really appreciate it :)

Love, Leah   
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Julia-Madrid

Oh Leah, this is a nasty experience, and one I can relate to.  A male friend of mine became a father and told me not to come round because his mother-in-law was kind of "traditional."  Quite a slap in the face.

Like you, I think I've had a wonderful transition.  But I suspected that someone would ultimately do something like this to reject me, and yes, it did happen.  It was just one person, on the periphery of my friendships, but it hurt for a couple of weeks at least.

Unlike you, I don't really care if people are uncomfortable - I think one is lowering one's value by expecting that people might or could be uncomfortable, and I would rather use the opportunity to gently confront people and educate them. 

If this is one of your closest friends, it's a hard blow indeed.  All I can suggest is that you meet him and explain how much it hurt.  We trans folk do not need to avoid an appropriate type of confrontation with religious people - by avoiding them this just perpetuates an ignorance over the diversity and validity of all people.

As for the friend who did this to me, he was actually projecting his discomfort onto another family member and using that person as the excuse, and this may be the case with your friend too?  This too is worth discussing with him.

Leah, while you might have to painfully prune a few people from your circle,  try not to take is as a personal rejection.  Your friend may not be strong enough to feel able to justify his choices of friends to his parents.  Try a bit of dialogue knowing that you're stronger than he is.

Good luck girl!!
Julia

PS - my "ex"-friend called me after a couple of months, came round, apologised profusely for being a d**k (his words), and we're back on track. 
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Leah443

Thank you Julia your insight was super helpful and made sense to me. right after i post this I'm going to tell him how i feel, assuming he's on Facebook. Again thanks

Love, Leah 
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Miss_Bungle1991

I went through the same thing back in 07. I had two friends (and only those two friends). One in particular always made a big deal about how he would always stick with me through thick and thin. For 12 years, that seemed to be the case. But once he found out about my transitioning in March of 07, he dropped me like a hot potato. So much for the "thick and thin". (Especially when this was when I needed a friend the most) The other one had been distancing himself from me anyway, so I didn't care so much. But I was a tad annoyed when I found out that he was calling me a "sick freak" behind my back. Oh well..the hell with them.
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Leah443

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 01, 2015, 08:18:47 PM
I went through the same thing back in 07. I had two friends (and only those two friends). One in particular always made a big deal about how he would always stick with me through thick and thin. For 12 years, that seemed to be the case. But once he found out about my transitioning in March of 07, he dropped me like a hot potato. So much for the "thick and thin". (Especially when this was when I needed a friend the most) The other one had been distancing himself from me anyway, so I didn't care so much. But I was a tad annoyed when I found out that he was calling me a "sick freak" behind my back. Oh well..the hell with them.
Yeah those kinds of people annoy me to no end. in fact thats particularly why I'm upset. i told them if they had a problem to tell me straight up. and some have. and I'm even more upset at myself. i should have seen this coming there were certain signs but i was too scared to lose my friend
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Leah443 on January 01, 2015, 08:27:20 PM
i should have seen this coming there were certain signs but i was too scared to lose my friend

Well, I assumed they were more open minded than that. But, I turned out to be wrong. One in particular likes to make transphobic jokes on his Facebook page. (I did a little bit of spying when I was bored one night) Oh well...I just hope that none of his three sons end up in my shoes. I doubt it would go well for them.
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Leah443

Quote from: Leah443 on January 01, 2015, 08:04:05 PM
right after i post this I'm going to tell him how i feel, assuming he's on Facebook.
Love, Leah 
Gah I'm a wuss. a;; i could get out was i was hurt. all i got back was "i understand"

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 01, 2015, 08:35:20 PM
Well, I assumed they were more open minded than that. But, I turned out to be wrong. One in particular likes to make transphobic jokes on his Facebook page. (I did a little bit of spying when I was bored one night) Oh well...I just hope that none of his three sons end up in my shoes. I doubt it would go well for them.
lets hope karma doesn't work like that
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Miss_Bungle1991

I wouldn't look at that as a karma type of thing. That would just suck for them. Karma would be..well...things that I can't say.
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JoanneB

It's the human condition. Afraid of confrontation. Denial. I'm making it up as I go along. Let's just hope things sort of work out without me being on the loosing side. Or, just plain procrastination (unlikely).

TBH - I've been guilty of them all as applied to my own life. If I don't do anything, I cannot be the one to blame. And I grew up being blamed for EVERYTHING. (Baby of the family, AKA Sh-- flows downhill)
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Leah443

Quote from: JoanneB on January 01, 2015, 08:55:05 PM
It's the human condition. Afraid of confrontation. Denial. I'm making it up as I go along. Let's just hope things sort of work out without me being on the loosing side. Or, just plain procrastination (unlikely).

TBH - I've been guilty of them all as applied to my own life. If I don't do anything, I cannot be the one to blame. And I grew up being blamed for EVERYTHING. (Baby of the family, AKA Sh-- flows downhill)
its something i gotta work on. i am horrible about it because i can't stand making people upset, angry or uncomfortable even if it isn't my fault. but for now i got some good, not great, but still good news. my friend sent me a message explaining his side of the story and while i don't nessisarily like it i can kinda see his point of view. its unfortunate but while i don't think we will ever stay close friends we have sort of made up and are still friends. thank all of you for your help it really helped me to get this thing semi resolved

love Leah
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ImagineKate

Quote from: JoanneB on January 01, 2015, 08:55:05 PM

TBH - I've been guilty of them all as applied to my own life. If I don't do anything, I cannot be the one to blame. And I grew up being blamed for EVERYTHING. (Baby of the family, AKA Sh-- flows downhill)

I was the first born and I was treated like second class when my younger brother came along. He was (mis)diagnosed with a kidney problem and I was told for example don't drink any of the coconuts on the trees in the yard, they were all his. Dad paid for part of his college, both bachelors and masters. I got nothing and I am still paying back loans. But I got a partial scholarship and I went to a better school anyway. Did this on my own. Dad made a long speech at his wedding, said maybe 10 words at mine. Mom didn't even attend. She hated my wife because of her nationality, age and the fact that she had 2 kids outside the marriage (meanwhile my brother is in an interracial marriage and she has no problems with that. Not saying it's wrong, just pointing out the unequal treatment.)

So parents can have a bias based on any number of factors. Maybe they treated me the way they did because who knows, I still can't figure it out. In school I was top of the class, consistently and top of the school too. I didn't study that much, I just absorbed knowledge like a sponge.

I am thankful I have some distance though. I like my life a bit independent.
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ImagineKate


Quote from: Leah443 on January 01, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
First i just wanna point out that for the most part (and by most i mean like 98% of it) my transitioning has been wonderful. no family shaming, a little shunning but who needs em, and for the most part my friends have been very accepting. even college is going great, my grades have actually improved! but yesterday something hit me harder then anything i could have ever expected. I was going to go to a friends new years party. not fancy or night clubby but just a get together with friends soda pizza and video games. i was very much looking forward to it as friends who i don't usually get a chance to see were going to be there. well while talking to the host who is one of my closest friends i asked him if he had told his parents about me yet because they were going to be there and the last time i saw them i was guy mode and even more sensitive then i am now, even though from some of my posts it doesn't seem like it. well he told me that no he hadn't. the reason i wanted to know is because i don't like to make people uncomfortable and right now I'm progressed far enough into my transition that i can't hide how i look. more importantly i don't want to hide! i can't stand hiding. he told me he hadn't told them because they are really religious. i asked what he wanted to do and he told me it would probably be better for me to not show up. i kind of expected this but i still felt like i was being electrocuted. i promptly got off my computer and headed to my room where i started to melt down. normally I'm a silent cryer but in this case not so much. my closest friend didn't want me there. to make matters worse we are getting even more distant. i guess the reason i am posting this is i need to get it off my chest as i don't really have people around me that are available to talk to and i was wondering if anybody else had something similar happen and (if its not too personal) how did they handle it. does it get better? I'm scared to come out to some of my other friends now because i don't want the same thing happening with them. Thanks for listening to me ramble i really appreciate it :)

Love, Leah


That's a really crappy thing for him to do. I hate to sound cruel but maybe he isn't really your friend if he can't accept you for who you are.
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