Quote from: ImagineKate on November 29, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
Address the facial hair ASAP.
She should work on the voice.
Those two things consistently get you clocked. The rest of things are negotiable.
This.
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I don't know if you have the funds available, but you REALLY need to start laser. Imagine if *you* had facial hair - you'd feel so self-conscious going out, especially later in the day when it was starting to grow back. No amount of makeup would make you feel good. My partner and I don't have a lot of money, but it was vital she get laser for her own well-being and peace of mind. And just a few sessions in, she's soooo much happier.
Unfortunately, it IS a drain on the finances.
Also, as the other poster said, if your gf isn't practicing her voice, she needs to start asap. I know with my gf, she said she'd rather be seen to the (largely unknowledgeable) population as a manly girl with a clear female voice than a ->-bleeped-<- with a male voice (since you said in the other thread that your gf isn't passing well at all). Sounds harsh, but that's how a lot of society will see it because they don't have the knowledge to understand what's actually going on.

So my gf now has a voice that I find quite lovely and gentle (though she struggles to hear that

), which she can learn to perfect over the years.
Tbh, your gf's voice is probably a huge source of dysphoria for her, so it's best to find ways to alleviate it asap, though it will take years to perfect a natural feminine voice and become comfortable in it, with enough resonance not to sound reedy. And by doing *something* towards her transition (i.e., practising her voice), she will feel like she's going somewhere and starting down the road of transition, which is vital for someone pre-everything. You can help her and give her advice on what sounds okay, cos she'll be lost and lack confidence.
She might want to check out these videos (oldest first):
https://www.youtube.com/user/candiFLA/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=daThe other thing: HRT. It will make such a difference to her mentally (and, in the case of my gf, it will give her the confidence to be more girly), let alone the physical changes that will occur. And, as another poster said, just be there for her. Your support will give her the confidence she needs to do this in spite of family disapproval and other obstacles.