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When you're "done", ...then what?

Started by PinkCloud, December 02, 2014, 05:11:53 PM

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PinkCloud

I've heard it long before I even transitioned: when you have had surgery, there is a moment where you think: now what? there is a kind of emptiness that arises. I've been working towards this moment for at least 6 years now. And now that I am here, or there, I experience a kind of emptiness. The only thing I lived for the last 2 years was my SRS. And now that it is done, I lost something to live for. I think I reached all my goals in transition, leaving me thinking about what my next goal should be... confusing experience actually. I won't call it a depression, it's more like... Okay? now what?

Do/did you experience something like this? and how did it work out?
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Jill F

I haven't had the "whole shebang" installed yet, but I hear you.  I had an orchi and legal name/gender change July '14.  I've been fulltime since March '13.  I don't need FFS and it's too soon to know if I will need a BA.  I see a woman in the mirror now.  "He" is gone.   I am still shopping around for SRS surgeons and will not likely have it until my calendar is cleared for healing, probably in spring/summer '16.

My transition is essentially complete now.  It consumed me for so long, that "transitioning" was almost a full time endeavor in itself.   It's a done deal now.  The world treats me like a woman 99.9% of the time and it feels awesome.

At dinner one day this summer, my friend Rachel asked me, "Now what?"

I froze up like a deer in the headlights.  I had no freakin' clue what to say. and spent the next few days wondering this.

My conclusion?

Live.  Live your life to the fullest.  Be the best person you can be.  Spend as much time as you can finally enjoying the precious time you have left.  Help others who share your same predicament.  Write a book about it, even if it never sees the light of day.  Dance.  Smell the flowers.  Go back to school.   Educate others.  Fight for your right to party. (Insert Kerry King guitar solo here)  Smile.  Laugh.  Cry.  Be you. 

I love finally getting to be the real me!

To paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke in 2001: A Space Odyssey (Awesome book series, BTW)

"She was now the master of her own world.  She did not know what to do, but she would think of something."

Hugs,
Jill
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PinkCloud

Quote from: Jill F on December 02, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
I froze up like a deer in the headlights.  I had no freakin' clue what to say. and spent the next few days wondering this.

I feel exactly like this right now...

Quote from: Jill F on December 02, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
My conclusion?

Live.  Live your life to the fullest.  Be the best person you can be.  Spend as much time as you can finally enjoying the precious time you have left.  Help others who share your same predicament.  Write a book about it, even if it never sees the light of day.  Dance.  Smell the flowers.  Go back to school.   Educate others.  Fight for your right to party. (Insert Kerry King guitar solo here)  Smile.  Laugh.  Cry.  Be you. 

I got frightened when I read this... because it is so true. But I still don't know how. Something seems to hold me back, maybe it is myself. I am 36 now, getting older each year. I do not have much time left to enjoy being "young". In 20 years I push 60 already. That scares me... because I already spent 20 years dealing with dysphoria, depression, anxiety, suicidal feelings and stuff. Sometime I feel I just cannot be helped. Wasting time and procrastinating constantly... waiting for something to happen...

Quote from: Jill F on December 02, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
To paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke in 2001: A Space Odyssey (Awesome book series, BTW)

"She was now the master of her own world.  She did not know what to do, but she would think of something."

Hugs,
Jill

Niiiiice!  :D
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Jill F

I'm 45.  I just do whatever I can given limitations that I fully accept.   There is lots of time left for us to enjoy.

Plus, when I'm actually old, maybe I'll just get facelifts until my ears meet at the back.
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PinkCloud

Quote from: Jill F on December 02, 2014, 10:35:23 PM
I'm 45.  I just do whatever I can given limitations that I fully accept.   There is lots of time left for us to enjoy.

Plus, when I'm actually old, maybe I'll just get facelifts until my ears meet at the back.

:D ;D

Know what? I think I just found my answer... :o I know what I want!
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Stephe

I have to say finally getting the gender marker on my ID fixed (after my orchi) was a pretty "Meh" moment once it was all said and done. I have been living for years full time, I'm a woman and for some reason expected this to be some great moment once this was all fixed. There were so many hoops to jump through (living in GA) I guess I expected it to be some sensational feeling. It wasn't. I've gotten on with my life a long time ago, changed my career, have been enjoying my life for a while now so I suppose things like surgery and some government ID stuff doesn't really change any of the things that are important in my life. I guess I do "try to pass" on some level but honestly, I am who I am and am not proud nor ashamed.  I've gotten to a place when I am comfortable with who I am so all the drama and anxiety of being trans doesn't exist anymore.
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Eva Marie

Having done everything except GRS I have found myself wondering about this; i could see it looming on my horizon. You see, I've never had a "normal" life and now I do. I am really kind of unsure how to live it, since I have 50+ years of living the wrong life and dealing with dysphoria. That life was my "normal" life for *so* long, complete with it's coping strategies, unhappiness, and disappointments. It's all I know how to do.

I have been set free and am not quite sure what to do with my freedom now.
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PinkCloud

Quote from: Eva Marie on December 03, 2014, 01:23:49 AM
I am really kind of unsure how to live it, since I have 50+ years of living the wrong life and dealing with dysphoria. That life was my "normal" life for *so* long, complete with it's coping strategies, unhappiness, and disappointments. It's all I know how to do.

Yes. This is also what I meant.  :)

Some things are just so ingrained, that they are hard to change. For example, I can get nervous very quickly. Feeling tense all the time... I find it difficult to relax, because I don't know how. This is because of some very bad and abusive experiences from my past and childhood, where I had to be constantly alert and living in near constant tension and fear of not knowing when I would get hurt by the people that so called loved me... I never fully recovered from that, and I still feel tense, up to this day.
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Jill F

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Apples Mk.II

Post-SRS? Well. Although I will get on with my life (fix the place, find a partner, pursue a degree, improve at work, travel more), there's always room for secondary transtion improvement. The FFS procedures I skipped, more and more voice work or even VFS if I fail miserably.

Oh, and doing a bucket list of "girls only" things I had to skip but I still can do.
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pretty pauline

Quote from: PinkCloud on December 02, 2014, 05:11:53 PM

Do/did you experience something like this? and how did it work out?
I did experience this for a while, then when healing was done, just moved on, embraced womanhood and being a girl, starting dating guys, then finally got married and now have a husband, life moves on.
If your going thru hell, just keep going.
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Myarkstir

I asked myself the same question a few weeks ago, now what?

Do you know what the answer is 1 week post op?

Answer: Had i NOT been trans, what would i have done now?

Answer for me:

A) clear out debt (loans, credit cards)
B) put $$$ aside
C) buy condo/city house

My pension is already planned with my work so  ;D

So here you go... My roadmap at age 47
Sylvia M.
Senior news staff




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Alexis2107

Question then... this may be a silly question or whatever... but, after you had SRS, and your gender now matches your body... does this mean you're no longer a trans woman and now a cis woman?  Or is it that after SRS and everything's done, you're still a trans woman... kind of had this going back and forth on my mind
~ Lexi ~

HRT 11/5/14
Full Time woman 3/12/15
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Myarkstir

Treat cis woman a genetic woman within medical norm and trans as not fitting medical norm

Once you are done with all your operations,  your mind now feels "good" about its body and your dysphoria is pretty much gone.

That is the major difference, you no longer allocate every second to dysphoria and start thinking of things cis woman care for. The rest of life. This of course is only my pov but i think it can answer your question.
Sylvia M.
Senior news staff




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Alexis2107

Quote from: Myarkstir on December 03, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
Treat cis woman a genetic woman within medical norm and trans as not fitting medical norm

Once you are done with all your operations,  your mind now feels "good" about its body and your dysphoria is pretty much gone.

That is the major difference, you no longer allocate every second to dysphoria and start thinking of things cis woman care for. The rest of life. This of course is only my pov but i think it can answer your question.

Makes sense the way you put it. I guess the only thing that confused me was the word transition... I figure once transition is complete, then you wouldn't any longer be a trans woman.  And genetics, what about those with male bits with female chromosomes?

I think I read some where that you're due for SRS soon?  I envy those who have it scheduled... can't wait till I have my date... if I could change my birthday to my SRS date, I would... ( and be nice if they allowed me to take off 10 years xD )
~ Lexi ~

HRT 11/5/14
Full Time woman 3/12/15
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Northern Jane

That was a LONG time ago! I had fought my whole life for treatment and SRS back in "the bad old days" when almost nobody made it but I succeeded at age 24. After fighting so long and so hard, I just wanted to sit back and relax for awhile. I knew I had lots to learn and just immersed myself in the world of women - I had many years to catch up on. Eventually the determination and drive turned toward career and I did well for myself over the following 40 year, far better than anyone would have expected.
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Susan522

Pre SRS was/is now, a long forgotten nightmare.  Post SRS was/is...just life.   Big, bad, beautiful LIFE!  It pretty much is just exactly what you make it....for better or for worse.
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Myarkstir

Quote from: Alexis2107 on December 03, 2014, 04:41:52 PM
I think I read some where that you're due for SRS soon?  I envy those who have it scheduled... can't wait till I have my date... if I could change my birthday to my SRS date, I would... ( and be nice if they allowed me to take off 10 years xD )

Just got back from Brassard monday. Am now resting at home.
Sylvia M.
Senior news staff




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hvmatt

Life just goes on.For some SRS is a big focal point and i guess that's where the"what now" feeling comes from after they attain that goal.My own experience is that it was just one piece in the jigsaw of life.
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Donna Elvira

I'm a little over 3 months post-op and recently got my civil identity change which means that even my birth certificate is modified to indicate that I am female. With this, I can say that my transition is completely finished and as others already said, life goes on. In my own case, I am very busy setting up my own business which is designed to keep me working for as long as possible, probably until I'm hitting seventy if I continue to enjoy the good health I have enjoyed up until now. I'm also writing a book so between one thing and another, the days are flying by.

As it happens, apart from pre-surgery anxiety (lot's of it)   GRS was not that big a deal for me. I never saw it as a life changer (unlike FFS which definitely was a life changing experience for me), just as something that finally made sense given that I was very comfortable finally living as a woman. Happily, after a totally trouble free recovery, I can say that I really love the extra personal comfort/confidence that comes from having a totally female appearance, amply justifying the investment.

Otherwise, I've always considered that transitioning as "an end in itself" was a very dangerous pursuit because life is not just about gender. Life is also very much about relationships with others, work, leisure activities etc.. and all of these need to be considered when making a decision to transition because once it is done, that's what you're back to, hopefully in a better place than before. My own transition came at a considerable cost on the professional front (but even that might still work out for the best...) but I have gained massively on the relationships side, especially with other women.

End of the day though, you are back to life "as usual" just presenting to the world more at peace with yourself. However, all things else being equal, that should position you to get more out of your post-transition existence than if you hadn't transitioned...





 
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