Gentlemen only: How important is orgasmic ability vs desire for SRS?

[Edge]

I'd have SRS even if it meant never having an orgasm again, but only if the end result of the SRS was mostly indistinguishable from a cisgendered person's dick.
Edit: and if I could afford it.

[Adam (birkin)]

I'd have SRS even if it meant never having an orgasm again, but only if the end result of the SRS was mostly indistinguishable from a cisgendered person's dick.

IMO a lot of the phallos are (indistinguishable) at this stage, particularly the ones done by the London team. But I've never seen a penis in real life so I can't be the best judge of such things.

[wheat thins are delicious]

IMO a lot of the phallos are (indistinguishable) at this stage, particularly the ones done by the London team.

Yep, that's why I become so enraged when people ->-bleeped-<- talk the results of bottom surgery.  If you don't like how they look don't get one, but don't put your dislike out there so intensely.

[Disgusting]

I've always been an "all or nothing" sort of person, myself, so I'd waver between no risk and small risk.  Technically, everything I do has some risk of going wrong and I take those risks willingly--but this is something for which I wouldn't really have much of a safety net, so I'm a good bit more wary about that.
If I examine my options more closely in the future and "small risk" with overall favorable results looks like a realistic possibility, I may consider it.  For now, I'll stick with the "nothing", as there are much more certain things for me to get out of the way first.

[Adam (birkin)]

Yep, that's why I become so enraged when people ->-bleeped-<- talk the results of bottom surgery.  If you don't like how they look don't get one, but don't put your dislike out there so intensely.

I think there is a lot of ignorance. If you just google "phalloplasty" you will find a lot of older results. Not that there was anything wrong with them in and of themselves - but in terms of aesthetics and function, they have come a long way, and most people don't realize that. I personally found out about the current results from a guy here who did a lot of research, and wouldn't have known better otherwise, until I was consulting surgeons on my own.

For me, SRS is pretty much required for me to be able to feel fully and truly comfortable with myself. I think we tend to forget that these people who post their pictures are real human beings, who have gone through a lot of pain and effort just to be able to live their lives. And they are sharing their results with others so that those of us who do feel SRS is a requirement can have hope and see what options are out there. Not everyone has to take them, but some do, and those who do choose it because they would be suffering otherwise.

[Tay]

I will consider absolutely no risk.

+1 on this.

I wonder if being on T has any influence on guys' answers... Before T I was satisfied with just pleasing my partner during sex and having the occasional masturbation orgasm. Now I don't feel satisfied with sex unless I have an orgasm and normally find myself feeling the need to orgasm at least once daily, with partner or without!

[Edge]

IMO a lot of the phallos are (indistinguishable) at this stage, particularly the ones done by the London team. But I've never seen a penis in real life so I can't be the best judge of such things.

That's pretty cool. Still out of price range, but hopeful.

[harlee]

IMO a lot of the phallos are (indistinguishable) at this stage, particularly the ones done by the London team. But I've never seen a penis in real life so I can't be the best judge of such things.

Yeah there are some really good looking ones out there! And I guess you could make it look even more realistic by getting colour and a bit of detail tattooed on. I voted for "I'd have SRS even if told I would never orgasm again." I definitely want to get bottom surgery one day!

[Ayden]

Yep, that's why I become so enraged when people ->-bleeped-<- talk the results of bottom surgery.  If you don't like how they look don't get one, but don't put your dislike out there so intensely.

I actually wish I could see the results, but I have only seen the older photos. I am sure the science has gotten much better, since I have heard a lot of positive things from folks who have gone through it.

IMO a lot of the phallos are (indistinguishable) at this stage, particularly the ones done by the London team. But I've never seen a penis in real life so I can't be the best judge of such things.

That's awesome! Now if I could find some photos. The research begins! Though, I will probably never be able to afford it. But, always good to know all my options.

But, its a tough call for me. I'm gay so I would want something that is firm enough for anal, and from my understanding all they have is either sleeves or a rod. I'd like to be able to feel the action, so eh to the sleeve and I have heard the rods have to be replaced semi-frequently, which makes it less appealing. Overall, I am focused on top surgery first. I can re-evaluate in terms of money, healing, time and if I find a good surgeon after that. But, the twin chest lumps are going, and that will not be debated. *glares down* Your days are numbered...

As for sexual function - I would prefer to have function, sure. If I weren't married, I probably wouldn't care so much, but it seems a little mean to potentially lose my own sexual function when my husband already feels bad for getting "one-sided" pleasure (even though its always because I offer). I wouldn't want to put him through that sort of mental torture of I can't get mine so he is a terrible lover. He is mean enough to himself. So, I do take that into consideration. But that's just me.

[King Malachite]

I chose small risk.  If I see that a lot of the patients retain their erotic pleasure then that's good enough for me.  There will always be exceptions but I honestly cannot see myself living with the anatomy that I have currently for the rest of my life.  I can rarely get myself off because my mind doesn't match my physical anatomy and I don't want to spend the rest of my life going through that.   If for some reason I lose my function then I would be pissed but at the same time I would have known the risks.  I just have to make sure I do my part by chosing a surgeon that I feel would be best suited for me and try to be in the best health I can be in to minimize complications.

[Stealthy]

Don't give half a s**t about being unable to orgasm. I can't live with what I have now.

[Make_It_Good]

Andy and Edderkopp *checks spelling...*I completely agree with the last points you guys have made.
The majority of accessible results on the internet (whats public anyway, Im not including through private groups) is pretty outdated. And this can mean even as little as 10 years. The techniques are improving quickly, as surgeons learn from their own and others' work. The next stage of mine, which includes urethral work, is being done differently to how they did it I think, even as little as 5 years ago (give or take, done quote me on that...).
  Alot of it is people just not realizing it gets better than what is shown. But it does! :p

I actually wish I could see the results, but I have only seen the older photos. I am sure the science has gotten much better, since I have heard a lot of positive things from folks who have gone through it.

I have said on another thread (but maybe you missed it...) that Ive compiled a bunch of recent results by different surgeons onto a Word document. It shows the different techniques and work by a variety of surgeons across the world.
So if you are interested, message me your email address and I can send it to you.

[sneakersjay]

At the risk of TMI, I have been orgasming from a young age, so yeah, you could say that retaining the ability to orgasm was paramount.  I wouldn't eat my gun over it, but it was extremely important.  In the end I chose meta for a lot of reasons, the main ones being for me it was a 1-step surgery, low risk of not orgasming, lower cost, and closure of the hole.

I can honestly say that my orgasms are still excellent. They have changed somewhat, though it has been too long since before to tell you exactly what, though.  They are still very intense.

I will say that having gender-normative junk, even if very small, has made a HUGE difference in my psyche. Yes, I can pee at a urinal, but mostly sit (peeing at toilets requires more control and if I'm not careful I can create an embarrassing situation for myself).  But reaching down and feeling penis and balls is something I dreamed about since I was 4 years old.  Seriously.

That said, I'd defnitely choose a surgeon with a good track record.

Edited to add: yes, post-op results can look fantastic, but remember that took YEARS of procedures and healing time to look like that.  Look at all the top surgery pics floating around.  Most are from 1-3 months post op, and fewer 5+ years out.  Healing changes a LOT.

And my tiny dick, FWIW, passes physicals.


Jay

[Natkat]

Personally I like being able to orgams, so I wouldnt really sacrify those for not orgasm,
But on the other hand I already sacrificed parts of my sexual desires already.

I had great sexual sensations in my nippels and did sacrificy those at top surgery, even if I got part of the sensation back I dont think it will ever be the same. its not like I regreat it cause I really hated having boobs, but I hate how I lost some sensations and I think I also would hate losing sensation downstairs..

so well.. I do sacrifyse part of me sexually, when I feel it to be nessesarry, But I dont want to secrifice it all..

[Adio]

Orgasm is very important to me.  I chose the second option.  I look forward to the day when I can afford lower surgery or have it covered under insurance.  Still thinking about getting a meta but phallo is looking more and more attractive.

Also, what an incredibly old thread!

[mangoslayer]

Even though I know that with the phallo i want, almost all cases retain sensation and the ability to orgasm, i'd say i'd want it even if i couldnt. I currently can't get off at all during sex because of dysphoria. I can orgasm when i masturbate, but id rather have a dick than be able to cum when i jerk off.