Sport STP or Real EZP?

[LittleBoyBear]

So yeah, I've got penis envy, or my dysphoria shifted to my junk, or something. I've always packed (seriously, since WAY before I accepted that I'm Trans, like 6 years forever), but now I am starting to resent having to go into the stall in the men's room just to pee. I have this feeling like I should just be able to go up to the urinal and pee. Like its the normal thing for me to do and I should be able to do it and I can't. So, I'm thinking it's time for an STP.
I've honestly been looking for about a month now and I've narrowed it down to the two best options in my price range. Please chime in and let me know if you've used either of these!

The Sport STP from early2bed. Same design as the Model A, but smaller. I currently pack with a 4", and I like the feel of it. This one, with a harness, would cost about $100.
http://early2bedshop.com/sport-stp.html

The Real EZP from Transthetics. This one was designed by an active FtM. He wanted something he could pack and pee with, that would stand up to scrutiny, and that he could wear while doing athletic activities. It does not require a harness. It costs about $200.
http://transthetics.com/the-real-ezp/

I'm leaning toward the Real EZP, but am not looking to order this for about a month, since I have a few other expenses to take care of first. If you have any experience with either of these, or something else $200 or below, please chime in.
My main concerns are cleanliness and comfort/ability to pack while active.

Thanks!
-Bear

[Bimmer Guy]

I just don't understand how you would pack with the EZP.  How do you lay it/tuck it against your body.  Would love to hear from someone on this because I just don't get it, yet see how it could be a good product for peeing.  There is no picture on how you pack this thing. 

I see that he suggests that you lay the shaft up and to the left, but where do the cup and balls lay?  Do they tuck under between your legs or something?  It seems like you would just lay the entire thing diagonally flat (glans up towards left, as he suggests), against your pelvic region and there is nothing hanging between your legs.  It really is just a tube (although a nice looking one!).  I just can't picture it.

Sorry if the question sounds stupid, I am just not clear on how this could work and look anything like how a bulge should look.  I really like the product, so that is why I am so curious.  Thanks.
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[aleon515]

The Number one labs has mixed reviews, but they aren't too expensive. I actually think the product that is most equivalent might be their simple STP. I have heard complaints re: packing with it the Models A, D, and Sport. Some say, that it is inflexible but others say they figured out is manageable or they can get used to it. Not a lot of peeing complaints though.

I don't think there are too many reviews of the EZP. I believe you "pack up" with it. Not sure but makes the most sense. Not sure if someone who feels like they need to pack would feel very satisfied by it. I've heard the STP itself works well, if you weren't terribly worried about how it felt. Most reviews focused on how well it worked as an STP.



--Jay

[notyouraverageguy]

I just don't understand how you would pack with the EZP.  How do you lay it/tuck it against your body.  Would love to hear from someone on this because I just don't get it, yet see how it could be a good product for peeing.  There is no picture on how you pack this thing. 

I see that he suggests that you lay the shaft up and to the left, but how do/wear do the cup and balls lay?  Do they tuck under between your legs or something?  Or does the whole thing just lay against your body?  I just can't picture it.

Sorry if the question sounds stupid, I am just not clear on how this could work and look like what a penis should look like behind your pants.

Thanks.

Its very soft and pliable, you can pack it which ever way you want as long as you have tight underwear or the right harness.

[LittleBoyBear]

Its very soft and pliable, you can pack it which ever way you want as long as you have tight underwear or the right harness.

So, is the little ball sack/cup part in between your legs all day? Does it get uncomfortable, as far as moving around?

[notyouraverageguy]

So, is the little ball sack/cup part in between your legs all day? Does it get uncomfortable, as far as moving around?

Not unless you want it to be there in place already. Its not uncomfortable, you can basically fold it up and put it in your pocket that's how flexible it is.

[Bimmer Guy]

So, is the little ball sack/cup part in between your legs all day? Does it get uncomfortable, as far as moving around?

I think I am going to write the owner to ask, as I just can't picture how it could be tucked into our pants in the form of a natural flaccid penis (the balls hanging down where they should be).  It seems to me it could only lay flat across our pelvis at some kind of angle.  I will report back in.  It looks like a great STP if it can be a decent packer.

[Aiden In Progress]

You might also check out the 3-in-1s from eroticreations.com

They've had some mixed reviews, but they've changed a bunch of things recently. They're around the same price and look pretty good. Haven't personally tried them out, though.

tranzwear.com has a lot of great STPs too. The Custom STPs are made my TSW and have pretty good reviews. I got my first packer from them and I was able to use the STP right away. Plus they've got great customer service. I don't think they're taking new orders right now, but they might be by the time you're ready to order.

[Aiden In Progress]

Oh, I almost forgot. stylishflesh.com has some really good products. And they're crazy cheap right now because the exchange rate is so off.

[aleon515]

Someone in my group (Trans Men over 40) got one. I'll kind of summarize the ideas, as I can't really quote him here, not having permission. But he says it is a terrific STP and sort of so-so as a packer. It does give you the proper sort of profile in your pants, but lacks the weight to feel substantial if that's what you want.


I believe you wear it with the cup size facing you which means very little surface actually touches you. I thin that's a good thing. None of this stuff can be that good for you, touching you. You wear it with shaft up and testicles down. and I believe angled to one side, that's a common way for cis guys to wear their junk, btw. He has a video  showing him using it in the bathroom, and this also looks like what he does.

However, it also means that this is a "hollow" thing with no weight. He says he may cut off the balls of a packer and throw them in the hollow space for when he isn't peeing (if that's clear). Of course that's putting probably cyberskin next to your skin, which I am not keen on (I think it is vaguely possible to do this with a silicone packer but silicone resists being cut.)

Aiden, I agree Stylish Flesh are very nice products, but are cyberskin. I think silicone is very expensive to start working with and very tricky, so probably while he has never gotten into working with it.

(Btw, if you compare not the sport STP but the original number one labs. I think this is surprisingly similar. Actually so similar, it's kind of surprising that number one labs, didn't figure out how to make it into a packer. https://www.etsy.com/listing/194476749/the-origional-number-one-handheld-stp?ref=pr_shop )

--Jay

[lionheart]

I just don't understand how you would pack with the EZP.  How do you lay it/tuck it against your body.  Would love to hear from someone on this because I just don't get it, yet see how it could be a good product for peeing.  There is no picture on how you pack this thing. 

There are a couple different ways you can arrange it, it's talked about in this video around 7 minutes.
I would watch the whole thing though, it's pretty informative.

[LittleBoyBear]

I think I am going to write the owner to ask, as I just can't picture how it could be tucked into our pants in the form of a natural flaccid penis (the balls hanging down where they should be).  It seems to me it could only lay flat across our pelvis at some kind of angle.  I will report back in.  It looks like a great STP if it can be a decent packer.

Agreed and please share once you know!

To everyone: thanks for the information, and the suggestions. I had said to Jay in a different message, that the fact that this would be small for a packer, and not give you that "full" feeling is probably more realistic and closer to actually having a flacid penis. My manfriend says he doesn't notice his when it's flacid, and my 4" packer always feels like more of a "chubby"/half-erection. I like that, no doubt, but I don't think it's realistic. Having just started T, my libido is off the charts and *sometimes*, the feeling of the "chubby" actually becomes a turn on... Not that I'm complaining....

I'm super excited to take this step and, whatever the final purchase it, you all can expect a review.

-Bear

P.S. Thanks to lionhart for posting the video link. I will watch it when I get home.

[LittleBoyBear]

P.P.S. I showed the video of the guy peeing with it to my manfriend, and (as a cis male) he was really impressed with how reallistic it looked, and functioned. He cautioned me to practice with it at home first. DUH.

[aleon515]

Yeah Chase is hilarious, no question.

I agree that perhaps the feeling of wanting "chubbiness or fullness" might be overdone. The other thing though about your guy friend, Bear, I wonder. He may not be real aware of it flaccid, but he's used to it being there. If you don't have it there, it might be different. However, the idea of being huge (these 4-5" packers out there). It's not realistic. Flaccid penises are generally between 2.5-3.5 inches and many men don't really show anything whatever with jeans on (unless really tight).

I do really like this product. Sounds like you can wear in the flap, which would be nice, as I really do not want anything whatsoever against my skin, and can't handle it.

I don't know why they can't be worn with boxer briefs, if they fit well. My boxer briefs fit against my skin all around. I can't figure out why you'd need briefs.


--Jay

[Bimmer Guy]

Thanks, lion heart.  How crazy is it that he posted while this thread is happening?

Well, guys, I believe I am sold.  I signed up for an email to be sent when he is starts making them again.  I hope it doesn't take months!

[LittleBoyBear]

Thanks, lion heart.  How crazy is it that he posted while this thread is happening?

Well, guys, I believe I am sold.  I signed up for an email to be sent when he is starts making them again.  I hope it doesn't take months!

Me, too. All around.

Jay, after I get one, I'll wear it with boxer briefs, etc, and do a review.

-Bear

[aleon515]

Bear, I would kind of think we'd get somewhat at the same time. Though I don't know what he is going to do with all the orders he will get with a review like that.

I can't imagine how it would not work with boxer briefs. I thought that Chase's briefs were pretty saggy next to my boxer briefs actually.

--Jay

[Bimmer Guy]

Bear, I would kind of think we'd get somewhat at the same time. Though I don't know what he is going to do with all the orders he will get with a review like that.

I can't imagine how it would not work with boxer briefs. I thought that Chase's briefs were pretty saggy next to my boxer briefs actually.

--Jay

I agree with your point about Chase's briefs (which is good).

I do hope that we actually do get notices when he starts making them again.  It is already 5 weeks to current orders.  I'm afraid he is going to become another RM before I get a chance to get one!  lol 

[aleon515]

Haha, well I think they take a day to make, and not sure how many he can make in a day (also think like my friend here, this is not his day job-- may BECOME his day job...). I got on his FB and he has a scene with 4-5 of them hanging up to dry, so maybe that's it. Funny. So I doubt 6 months or something (I think RM takes several weeks to make, btw. Each layer takes time to dry, etc.)
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I think Chase wears baggy looking briefs. But he's so cute he can get away with it.

--Jay

I agree with your point about Chase's briefs (which is good).

I do hope that we actually do get notices when he starts making them again.  It is already 5 weeks to current orders.  I'm afraid he is going to become another RM before I get a chance to get one!  lol

[aleon515]

BTW, the guy who invented this has a youtube channel. Wrote he is going to do another "tips" video soon.

--Jay