Quote from: Clabelle3333 on July 14, 2017, 12:58:53 AM
I am going to be brutally honest. I am on this site because my child who is 3 has always said she is a boy. She has severe dysphoria and in order for her to cope we have transitioned her socially into a boy. I came across an article one day looking for what may cause someone to be transgender. Me and my husband have 5 children, 4 daughter's (9, 6, 4, 3(trans) and one son who is 9 months old). I came across a bunch of blogs and posts insinuating progestin seemed to be a factor for the developing fetus resulting in someone being transgender. It had never entered my mind until I realized that for my trans child I had been on a progestin only birth control pill. I did not know I was pregnant at the time so was continuing to take my pills and would also triple up on doses which many do incase you forgot to take your pills or wanted to use them as a "plan b" which helps to bring a period and potentially shed an unwanted pregnancy. 
(horrible I know). I unknowingly had gotten pregnant not long after with my son (9 months) and was also taking the same pills and tripling the dose. I hope he's okay but we won't truly know until he is older. Now reading other peoples comments and stories it seems to make sense. Progestin is used for so many things such as a way to chemically castrate sex offenders or used in abortion pills and birth control pills so don't sit there and tell people it doesn't have any effects on a developing fetus!!! I have researched so much on this topic and every scientific conclusion ends with "there is no substantial research on this topic"!!!!?!? I also researched hormone levels in drinking water to which it is confirmed that species are actually changing genders. They admit that people are taking hormones (birth control etc) and it is expelled through our urine resulting in large amounts of hormones in the water we drink and only building up. They have no way to filter the hormones out and here we are ingesting all these different medications and I'm sorry yes transgender people have been around along time but in the last 50 years it seems to be increasing SUBSTANTIALLY! I do not believe it's because people are more comfortable and feel like coming out (in some cases yes) but something is seriously wrong. These hormone pills have only been around a few decades so really we know nothing about them and the impacts they have. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INQUIRY AND RESEARCH DONE ON THIS TOPIC!!! I posted this to a few parents of transgender children groups and many more parents have come forward. This is ridiculous and the truth needs to come out!
I wholeheartedly agree, there does need to be an impartial inquiry of some kind involving people who aren't connected to the medical or pharmaceutical industry.
To start with, there are literally millions of nominally male people alive today who were prenatally exposed to artificial female hormones (DES and progestins), in doses that would cause profound testosterone suppression in an adult man if he were to be given the same. If they have the same T-suppressing effect on an unborn male baby as they do on an adult man (and why wouldn't they?), then this is a big problem, since brain masculinization is driven through the action of testosterone. The one study of DES and gender that's ever been conducted found that 150 out of 500 DES "sons" participating in the study had a female gender identity, a rate of ->-bleeped-<- that must be hundreds of times higher than in the unexposed population. No comparable research appears to have been done on progestins, but I have found a paper (Aarskog, D. (1970). Clinical and cytogenetic studies in hypospadias. Acta Paediat. Scand. 203 : 1.) in which progestin exposure was identified as a cause of hypospadias, which is a form of intersex.
I've also found several case studies in which two first generation progestins (ethisterone and norethisterone) were shown to have had the opposite effect, of inducing male development in female babies. As with DES effects on biological males, the whole thing was swept under the rug and I haven't been able to find any estimates of the total number of people exposed. However, these two hormones were commonly co-prescribed alongside DES in the 1950s and 60's, and since the total number of people exposed to DES is in the region of 10 million, the numbers exposed to these two progestins is probably quite large as well.
A couple of weeks ago I was chatting to someone (AFAB) whose mother was given DES and a progestin in tablet form, which from her age and the fact it was a pill, means it was almost certainly ethisterone or norethisterone. Although she's currently presenting as female, from what she was saying, it certainly sounded like she'd had quite a lot of male brain development, and would transition except her personal circumstances won't allow it.
Ethisterone has long since fallen by the wayside, however norethisterone (as norethisterone acetate) was the most commonly used progestin in birth control pills in the 1980s, and is still used in some birth control formulations and as a drug in its own right.
An interesting fact I recently discovered, is that both DES and ethisterone have both seen use in aquaculture (i.e. fish farming) as sex change hormones, to produce all female or all male fish populations. If newly hatched fish fry are exposed to the appropriate dose of DES, they will all turn into females, irrespective of what their genes say. If they're instead exposed to ethisterone, they will all turn into males. These are two of the same hormones that were used in human pregnancies for miscarriage prevention!
Ethinylestradiol, a manmade estrogen that's commonly used in birth control pills, is such a potent feminizing hormone to fish, that the tiny traces of it making it through the sewage treatment process are causing intersex in male fish throughout Europe and America's waterways.
Here's a collection of scientific papers, articles and news stories I've found, where medical hormone exposure has resulted in intersexuality or ->-bleeped-<-:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/AYuZRE[I think there's also a couple of articles in there about Primodos, an estrogen-progestin combination pill similar to a high dose birth control pill, which was originally marketed as a way of testing whether a woman was pregnant, and later sold in third world countries as an abortion pill. Exposure to it generally happened very early in the pregnancy before the process of sexual development gets underway, and instead of causing abnormalities of sexual development, it's caused similar abnormalities to those that were seen with thalidomide (missing limbs etc). Once again, the pharmaceutical industry has walked away from the whole thing scot free.]
