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Started by needhelp, March 07, 2015, 11:23:50 PM

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Eevee

I started transitioning when I was 27 (I'm 28 now). I tried being a straight cis guy before that because that was "normal". I was always frustrated and depressed, but I wasn't ever sure why. I was even suicidal for a while. I did feel like I was different, but I didn't know why. All I did know was that I was afraid of facing whatever was different about me because I wanted to fit in with others so much. Then it just clicked one day, and everything about my life before then made so much more sense. I'm much happier with my life since coming out and starting HRT, and there's nothing that could possibly convince me to go back to how things were before.

Eevee
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Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes.



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Alyx Vox

Quote from: Eevee on March 08, 2015, 01:25:05 PM
I started transitioning when I was 27 (I'm 28 now). I tried being a straight cis guy before that because that was "normal". I was always frustrated and depressed, but I wasn't ever sure why. I was even suicidal for a while. I did feel like I was different, but I didn't know why. All I did know was that I was afraid of facing whatever was different about me because I wanted to fit in with others so much. Then it just clicked one day, and everything about my life before then made so much more sense. I'm much happier with my life since coming out and starting HRT, and there's nothing that could possibly convince me to go back to how things were before.

I feel in exactly the same way. Nothing about me made sense before apart from my appearance.
Kudos, sister, kudos to you!
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Rachel

I knew at age 5 when I came out to my Mom, which did not go well. I almost transitioned in college but then put it off due to experiencing a lot of bigotry. I started HRT 3 days before my 50th birthday. I had to. Now May 28 is my birthday.
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needhelp

Well for you Eve and Aly... How is that you felt before when you say nothing made sense? And no. My family is very open minded in terms of sexuality and gender.
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stephee72

I realized later in life but probably knew for years without putting it all together. I just thought I was a pervert or maybe just got turned on by trans people. Used to see the olympic athletes make the news  for steroid use and develop breasts and think, hey if I did it that way, it was just a mistake, I wouldnt have to admit it. Its weird how the mind can play   tricks on you, bury those desires. Looking back I always knew the truth.  So stupid for so long, so many people making me feel ashamed and not knowing it. One word Denial!!!!
I am being honest with myself and others here at all times, because I cant be honest in other parts of my life, just want honesty, support  and kindness for all.  :-*
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Obfuskatie

While I don't fit your requested mold, I figured I'd included an abbreviated version.  I knew since I was 3-ish that I wanted to grow up to be a woman.  I figured out at 6 that I didn't have a girls body.  I didn't know until I was 20 that there were other people like me.  I tried to live as a hetero man because I was afraid I wouldn't be happy with the result from transition, until 29, then I needed to get help.  Now I'm 31 and happier than I thought possible with my transition.  It's surreal.

Quote from: needhelp on March 08, 2015, 04:05:56 PM
Well for you Eve and Aly... How is that you felt before when you say nothing made sense? And no. My family is very open minded in terms of sexuality and gender.
I think your family's open mindedness is very cool.  Yes you do have to figure out yourself and who you want to be independently.  But having a family that will accept you after you make a decision is really helpful.  But before you can ask anyone else to accept you, you need to find a way to accept yourself.  It won't feel real or genuine unless you do.
I'd highly recommend finding a therapist the specializes in gender.
It sounds a lot like you are lumping all of transgenderdom into one category.  Not all transpeople are transsexual.  If you feel like you don't fit the cisgender male box, it's possible you are simply somewhere between male and female.  In order to figure out where you fit, perhaps experimentation is in order?
Dressing up in female clothes just to see how you feel with them on.  What feels right, what feels wrong?
Checking your hormone levels can be costly but sudden changes in hormone activity can have very big effects on your moods and psyche.
Altering your hormones with an anti androgen and estrogen (HRT) is a big step, but the initial month is pretty drastic at showing you how well you react to a different set of hormones.
Double check that you aren't suffering from body dysmorphia.  It's similar to gender dysphoria, but very different.
Everyone is different, there isn't one way to be transgender.  In fact, I think there are like 50 types people can pick on BookFace.  Be a snowflake.  Get professional help and your family's support.  It's a huge weight off your shoulders when you can tell anyone in person about your issues and have them listen.  If they are an expert who you trust that can tell you your not crazy, even better.


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- Katie
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needhelp

I don't know this is so damn confusing :(... I wish I hadn't suffered from OCD because I know It would make my life decisions a little easier. Also, even though my family would accept it I think... I don't think I could put any family member through that... Like I feel like I'd never be able to look them at the face again... Another thing that I don't think I could deal with is with people judging me... I'm already very self-conscious... An also is the fact of not looking 100% woman or the fair of not passing... all that I don't know if I could deal with that :(... Thanks once again for the feedback!
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needhelp

This gets especially bad when I go to bed.. it's like I feel more girly then.. and when I wake up at night. It's kind of weird to explain.
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Eva Marie

I didn't have a clue that I was trans until I was in my early-mid 40s. Looking back now I can clearly see the signs, but they were subtle and there was no information available to me back then to put the pieces together. I went along for years knowing that something was wrong but not knowing what it was. Now i'm 52 and I went full time about 6 months ago. I lost a 27 year marriage in the process (not by my choice) but got rid of the horrible dysphoria that was killing me one drink at a time. My life is different now, but in a good way!  :)
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CB

Oh this sounds like a discussion with the psychiatrist who referred me to the GIC!

I cant quite say exactly but do remember when I was about eleven or twelve clearly wishing I was a girl and secretively trying on clothes (my mother collected and sorted second hand clothes for local charities so there were boxes of them in the garage!). Since staring transition though I've identified various traits much earlier than that now make sense. It is only in the last few years though, now in my 40's, that I've taken active steps to transition.

For me growing up in a conservative rural town in southern England I never had any self concept that it would be possible to transition. Anything gender variant was simply viewed as freaky and perverted. So I just kept it all hidden and tried to live my life, not very successfully either. .

It wasn't that I didn't realise I was trans when I was younger I just didn't have a label for it then. And to actually transition was just off the radar. I am 100% confident that if I was 12 or 14 years old now I'd be telling my parents that i wanted to transition.
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Mikaela

I had no idea. My 'sissyness' was suppressed thoroughly six months after my mother dropped me off at my grandparents when I was four. When I heard my grandfather tell my grandmother, you can't keep coddling the boy, he'll grow up a sissy and NO one will want him around. I have no idea what I did that would have brought about that conversation, I don't remember much before then, I changed drastically after that though. I had learned that family can give you away, and I wasn't about to go through that again. I have been told of a lipstick incident, but I don't remember it. Was told that when I was three, I put lipstick on my baby brother, 'Because I already had a brother, and wanted a sister, like me.' Then when I was seven at summer camp, there was a dress incident.

Puberty was horrible for me, I thought that I was evil because of how wrong I felt. Angry as a teen. I had always accepted that I was a boy, just really messed up. I did everything that I was supposed to, and still felt wrong. As time went on, yes there were times starting in my twenties, that I consciously felt like a girl, and wanted it. Then I would hide from it again, usually with alcohol. It wasn't until a year ago, 44 at the time, that I gave in.

Yes, I have very feminine features. Hips bigger by a good bit than my waist and a big butt. Tiny hands and feet, and small genitals. No one ever made fun of me, and I never had any trouble getting girls. Being with women was always very uncomfortable for me though. Never had sex much, even in my 16 year marriage.

From the time that I accepted though, it was like a bell went off inside of me. There was no looking back after that, no desire to be a man.

Not sure if that helps.
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rachel89

I realized at age 24, then tried to put it away for a lot of different reasons until it came back last fall after I had been deeply unhappy the entire time and I was in a position to start doing something about it. Before age 24, my "trans feelings" were pretty vague and I did not exactly recognize them as "trans feelings." Looking back there might have been some clues, like wanting to be rid of facial hair (since puberty), occasionally wearing women's underwear, preferring to look at myself in the mirror tucked rather than un-tucked, feeling more comfortable around women (but had plenty of male friends too), often being clocked as gay or effeminate by classmates, a vague feeling that I would be happier if I were a female. I didn't wear princess dresses as a child or play with dolls (I'm not entirely sure about the last one, but in any case I still preferred stereotypical male toys). My personality is kind of socially awkward, shy, and nerdy. I am now seeing a therapist, have gone out dressed in female clothing, and have gone through 3 hours of electrolysis. Sometimes I still wonder if I am just crazy because my story isn't like the story of other trans women who knew they were female, played with dolls, wore dresses, and were intensely dysphoric since age 4. Still, there is no reason why a female couldn't enjoy the same stereotypical "male" interests I did and it doesn't sound like I am the only trans woman who didn't realize they were trans until they were in their 20's. 


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akegia

Its something I always knew, just due to fears, anxiety, social pressures just never happened till now(26). Feeling a lot better now that I am in transition.
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Obfuskatie

How about these as possible exercises?

A) Look at yourself in the mirror.  While looking, say out loud, "I am a boy."
     Pause.  Examine how that made you feel.
     Look in the mirror again, and say out loud, "I am a girl."
     Examine how that made you feel, the compare the two.

B) Because you mentioned before you sleep, this may work better.
    First you'll need to buy a few things.  Scented oils/bath salts, something like a nightgown, fragrant soap/shampoo/conditioner.  Pick scents and fragrances you like as well.
    Before you go to bed for the night, take a feminine bath, but don't overdo the oils / fragrances pungency.  Dress in something like a nightgown and go to sleep after thoroughly pampering yourself.  The lingering scents that cling to you will probably be enough to subtly encourage femininity enough to make an impression on you or alter your sleep.
  The next day, you can find some way to bathe yourself in masculine smells and try again that night with a reverse effect.


Lastly, it sounds like you are having a mixture of identity crisis and depression, and because of that self acceptance is very important.  Do your best to not be self-deprecating.  For every negative thing you think about yourself, try to think of a positive one.  Or if you are not at a place to egalitarian with yourself, volunteer to help people for charity.  Find ways you can feel good about yourself through your actions if not internally.  I've struggled with borderline OCD and depressive thoughts as well, and helping other people always boosts my confidence and self esteem even when I'm suffering.
Also, I know it sounds stupid, but if you say out loud, "I'm awesome" in any context enough times, it can positively affect your view of yourself.
The answer to, "You're here early today?" Can be, "Because I'm awesome!"  Enough repetitions of this positivity in many situations, and you'll get in the habit of not negative talking in your head.

It's very alluring to try to find an easy solution, but there isn't one.  Find the courage to be introspective and work on accepting of yourself.  Personally, I think some feminine traits are sexy on a guy, Gaston isn't my type [emoji1] The trick is finding the balance to where you feel happy expressing yourself.  Don't call yourself a sissy.  Don't shame or blame yourself.  You are who you are, there are so many things that go into making us who we are that it is pointless to try to find culprits to point fingers at.
When I get really down, hugs have always helped me nearly instantly feel better.


     Hugs,
- Katie
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Eevee

Quote from: needhelp on March 08, 2015, 04:05:56 PM
Well for you Eve and Aly... How is that you felt before when you say nothing made sense?

Nothing made sense mostly because I felt like there was something very wrong with me. I felt it both physically and mentally, like something didn't line up. I was always awkward whenever I tried to be the person that I was expected to be. I knew that I wasn't really living the life I should be living, but I wasn't sure how to get there either. I had no guidance and everyone was trying to keep me on the same path that always felt wrong. It wasn't until I started to embrace the idea of femininity that my family tried to keep from me that I started to feel more comfortable with myself... until I looked down at my body again. Then I started to figure out exactly what was wrong and why I was always so depressed. Also, I do blame my parents a lot, but I was also in heavy denial because I didn't want to be "different".

In short, it was just a long journey through years of being lost without a guide or a clue.

Eevee
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Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes.



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needhelp

The thing is that... I really don't have an answer, not yet at least. I do know that if I don't think about it enough I just don't label myself (feminine, masculine) but if I pay attention to it I do feel very feminine (inside). My voice is deep, never really felt like being flamboyant or anything. One thing to add maybe... Since I was little I liked girls, however when I was around 10 or so... I had an incident where people put me aside out of a team, and I was crying but this boy came and spent some time with me. At that time I felt happy, like taken care of and thought I liked boys. Told my Dad and he took me to a psychologist friend of his just to chat about it. Anyhow, I don't remember what I talked there but I do remember that I kept liking women a lot... I actually was horny all the time through puberty. The one thing however is that at 17 or 18 the gay thoughts came back. Since then I've never acted on them since I don't want to be with a man... so with my psychologist we think it's something called HOCD. However, I can tell that I feel secure around men, especially confident men, and I'm pretty sure that that feeling is the one a woman feels around a man that takes care of her... This is what kind of triggers some doubts on me. That maybe if I was to transition I would be with men, maybe both but accept it that way. I do know that what caused all my de realization symptoms is anxiety caused by having asked myself over the past 10 years if I'm gay or not and not having an answer.
The other thing is that even thought my family would accept it, I know it would hurt them. Like maybe them worrying for me, for my future, for if they did something wrong (since not everyone understands that this things can't be changed or really fought). I do not think however my brother would, and even thought if they all did, I feel like things wouldn't be the same anymore. I care a lot about others and I don't think I could live with that.
Also the thought of not being totally perfect, you know like having a vagina that was created by doctors, and not looking 100% woman, I don't know if I could live with those things either. I'll talk to my doctor but I'll give myself sometime before I do anything, at least until I'm living by myself next year and have enough income to pay for a gender therapist and such.
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Kaydee

I didn't know I was trans* until about a year ago at age 56.   I knew there were some weird things happening in my life, but I had repressed it all form an early age, and could never allow my mind to think about what it was all about.  Now I look back to the cross-dressing, to fantasizing what it would be like to be that girl I just passed - it obviously was there all the time and affected my whole life.  But the way my mind was - the repression - made it impossible to consider any of this in any rational way.  I compartmentalized all this behavior and considered myself a normal, healthy, but rather strange guy. 

Then a little over a year ago the wall of repression weakened, I began to see past the blinders and see what my life was all about.  Now, with a lot of self-examination, time, and work with my therapist I have accepted myself as a trans woman and have worked past a lot of the related shame issues and have begun transition.

I hate the fact that the repression kept me from doing this when I was younger.  But I look forward to the coming years when I am allowed to be myself.

Aimee





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Alyx Vox

Well, I'm glad I'm not a freak for not knowing it sooner. Rather I'm a freak for different reasons entirely...
I'm actually interested in distribution of early vs late bloomers, math-minded, gotta have my math, it's like heroin to me.
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stephee72

Obfuskatie......
Wow, I. Figured it out before now, but your little exercise looking in the mirror saying I am a boy...was like "ok I know I am" :-\...
Then I said I am a girl....it was like butterflys, excitement and a smile on my face,... :laugh:...a warm comfort came over me
...wow, if thats not confirmation...lol... Funny I just had to try it...
I am being honest with myself and others here at all times, because I cant be honest in other parts of my life, just want honesty, support  and kindness for all.  :-*
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Kellam

Quote from: stephee72 on March 09, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Obfuskatie......
Wow, I. Figured it out before now, but your little exercise looking in the mirror saying I am a boy...was like "ok I know I am" :-\...
Then I said I am a girl....it was like butterflys, excitement and a smile on my face,... :laugh:...a warm comfort came over me
...wow, if thats not confirmation...lol... Funny I just had to try it...

I tried it too! Just for fun. The juxtaposition was wonderful. I did it before and after work and it just made me feel so good! Boy = sad pit in my stomach, Girl = joyfull and ebullient, giddy comfort.
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