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Protestors block traffic, highlight violence against transgender people

Started by chefskenzie, March 21, 2015, 10:38:40 AM

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chefskenzie

Protestors block traffic, highlight violence against transgender people

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0321-transgender-rally-20150321-story.html

Article by:  Hailey Branson
LA Times
March 20, 2015

Dozens of protesters shut down a busy intersection outside the Beverly Center during the evening rush hour Friday to call for an end to violence against transgender people.

As horns blared and police helicopters circled, protesters marched into the center of the intersection at 3rd Street and La Cienega Boulevard, shouting, "Trans lives matter!"






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I have to wonder that if more areas in the country did things like this if we would start to see a major difference, and more discussion in the media?
Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart.  Kahlil Gibran



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Devlyn

I hate this form of protest, I don't care what the cause is. My two cents worth.

Hugs, Devlyn
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chefskenzie

Usually I do too, but after working in the media, it is things like this that get the public's attention.  Think back to the Occupy Wall Street protests.  Hated it, but can be somewhat effective to get out the message.  There IMO needs to be another Stonewall, but this time focusing on Trans rights to wake up the public, and to make them stop ignoring us.
Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart.  Kahlil Gibran



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michelle666

While I do think that this issue needs some attention I think that this is the wrong way of going about it. All that it's going to accomplish is pissing people off. Here in Boston, protesters blocked the highway for Black Lives Matter and it didnt accomplish a damn thing.
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Devlyn

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michelle666

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on March 21, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
Yeah, I'm in Weymouth. I remember that day very well.

I'm in Medford, so luckily I didn't have to deal with it. But, when I got in the office, no one was there. I thought there was a holiday that no one told me about and I almost went home until I found out about the protesters.
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Cyber Warrior

As others has said this type of protest only serves to piss people off and it actually hurts the movement. Blacks did this too around the Ferguson trial but in the end it accomplished nothing and pissed a lot of people off at the same time.
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Eevee


Eevee
#133

Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes.



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Jill F

Bamby Salcedo, you're not doing us any favors by this hamfisted cry for attention.

Traffic sucks bad enough in LA, and you just might have made people who were on the fence move over to the haters side.   We need positive attention.  Being seen as the cause of another traffic problem isn't going to accomplish that.

Next time I see her, I'm going to tell her she's blowing it.
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skin

It wouldn't have become national news had they not blocked traffic. Please name any civil rights protest that accomplished anything without ruffling some feathers.
"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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Devlyn

You catch more flies with sugar than vinegar.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
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skin

"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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Devlyn

My experience is that polite, cooperative people willing to work with others get better results than those who are angry,  self centered, and unwilling to compromise on solutions.  :)  History disagrees with that?

Hugs, Devlyn
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skin

The way you state it makes it seem like there are only two diametrically opposed manners in which you can present your cause.  One can be loud and disobedient while being concerned for the greater good and being willing to compromise. But in the context of securing civil rights, yes, I believe history would disagree that being polite and cooperative gets results.
"Choosing to be true to one's self — despite challenges that may come with the journey — is an integral part of realizing not just one's own potential, but of realizing the true nature of our collective human spirit. This spirit is what makes us who we are, and by following that spirit as it manifests outwardly, and inwardly, you are benefiting us all." -Andrew WK
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Eevee

As long as it is non-violent, I see no issue with it. Several protests have worked out very well using similar methods to this. You may piss people off, but that's what you need to do to get people to notice sometimes. Most people tend to ignore things that don't immediately effect their lives. Well, now it is in their way.

Eevee
#133

Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes.



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Dee Marshall

Quote from: skin on March 21, 2015, 08:12:12 PM
It wouldn't have become national news had they not blocked traffic. Please name any civil rights protest that accomplished anything without ruffling some feathers.
"This is a revolution, dammit! We're going to have to offend somebody!" - John Adams 1776 (1972)
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: Eevee on March 21, 2015, 08:58:25 PM
As long as it is non-violent, I see no issue with it.

But, it is violent.  There are ways to be violent that don't involve throwing fists and shooting guns.  They are using physical FORCE (blocking major roads) to try to get what they want.  Furthermore, they are knowingly taking actions that could endanger the lives of others.  There could be police or medical personnel stuck in that traffic, and they might be missing out on doing something important because they can't get to where they need to be.

This is a step back for transgender rights.  Actively trying to ruin the lives of others is not a method to "raise awareness" for anything.  People don't care about you transgender issues, they care about being able to get to work and provide for their families.  Preventing them from going about their daily business is not a method to get them to care about your issues, it's just a method to get them mad at you for creating more issues for them.

So, yes, I see a big problem with this form of protest.  Anyone found to be intentionally blocking roads should be arrested and probably tried for some sort of crime.
"The cake is a lie."
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suzifrommd

I agree with everything VeryGnawty said.

Here is the problem as I see it. There are hundreds of very worthy issues about which awareness needs to be raised. There are even more whose followers think they are worthy, but they probably aren't.

If every one of them thought it was worthwhile messing up people's lives to get their message out, no one would pay much attention to any of them. No one would have much energy to do anything else but survive, and all the messages in the world would do no good.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Eva Marie

Wow, they blocked La Cienega Boulevard in front of the Beverly center? That's a very high traffic area that I hate to drive thru even when there is no protest. That's just down the street from West Hollywood/Santa Monica blvd where the L.A. pride parade happens each year for those who don't know. It's also a very tony area on the borderline of Beverly Hills.

I have a mixed opinion about the effectiveness of what they did. I totally agree that raising awareness of Trans deaths is very important but i'm not quite sure that pissing off people is the most effective way to deliver the message. Still, maybe disrupting people's lives might be a way to raise awareness.
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cocoon

I am not a regular on this site, but wasn't the whole message behind the protest "Please stop killing us and stop doing violence to TG!"  Other than blocking traffic, didn't the protesters use signs and their voices (and not violence)?  I understand the concerns about inconveniencing people, but aren't we here to support each other in the TG cause.  Personally, I wish I had been less concerned in my life about offending people and getting along and more concerned about being who I am.  I am not african american and I don't mean to offend anyone who struggles with racism, but there were some people in the 60's who talked the same way about racism.  Dr. King incorporated Ghandi's idea of peaceful protest into the civil rights movement in the 50's and 60's.  We celebrate King's birthday every year because he gave one of the greatest speeches of the 20th century which asked people to look to the content of a person's character rather than the color of their skin.  Are we any different?  Should anyone really care if I wear eye make up because I want to and it is the way I see myself as a beautiful person or should people look to see if I am good person inside (with a a bad sense of fashion)?  I know sometimes it is hard to look past what we wear, but people also look at how we act.  If we are respectful of others and kind, isn't that what matters?
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