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Doubt, anger, ect.

Started by JaydenPlasmatic, April 10, 2015, 01:07:55 PM

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JaydenPlasmatic

Ok so. For quite a while I had a lot of doubt about being trans. [I'm not super uncomfortable with my body. It does happen more often if I'm at school or work.] But, in the past year or more I've been experiencing a lot of anger and depression. You see I don't experience much "body dysphoria" I wish I had a penis and a flat chest but I'm not craving it bad. I mostly just feel this intense anger and sadness. My question is: Is this a type of dysphoria?
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Jessica Merriman

Quite simply, of course!! I had the very same feelings which faded away completely after HRT was started. I am now a total reverse of the angry, irritable person I was. You do not have to have body Dysphoria to be transgender as the symptoms are different for everyone. :)
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JaydenPlasmatic

Wow thank you so much for replying it means a lot <3
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Jessica Merriman

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ridleysw

Not every trans person fits into the main narrative of hating their body or wanting "the opposite" of their sex assigned at birth.  Gender dysphoria manifests in different ways for different people.  Whatever you are feeling is exactly what you need to feel.  Humans are so complex... we all have our own unique stories and experiences.  Personally, I know it took me longer to recognize/name my trans-ness because I didn't fit that main narrative, which was the only one I had heard growing up.  I don't yearn for a penis - I have no plans for bottom surgery other than a hysto (and that's just for the practical reasons, not because it causes me mental upset for being in my body!).  I am no less trans than an FTM who wants phallo.  There's no "one way" to transition.  :)
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CursedFireDean

Social dysphoria maybe!

Dysphoria isn't always physical. There are lots of aspect of gender that can cause upset. For me I have MUCH more social dysphoria than physical- I get much more upset by not being seen as male than by my body.





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ridleysw

Quote from: CursedFireDean on April 10, 2015, 06:50:50 PM
For me I have MUCH more social dysphoria than physical- I get much more upset by not being seen as male than by my body.

Well said!!  That sounds similar to my experiences, as well.
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Adam (birkin)

Hard to say, do you know what type of events/thoughts precede these bad feelings you get? Are they gender related incidents? I was extremely angry living as a woman and it wasn't until I was on T for quite some time and settled into my body that most of the anger dissipated. I didn't really expect that to happen either because I thought the anger was due to issues unrelated to transition.

But depending on what's going on in your life, and how your mental health is, it could be other things as well. It's entirely possible to feel feelings of dysphoria, anger, and sadness that are unrelated to gender and not always know what the cause is. For example, I can feel strong feelings of anger/sadness if I hear music that brings out certain emotions or gets me going. I have certain people in my life who bring back bad and traumatic memories and when I see them my mood will drop. Sometimes those triggers can just sneak up on you and make you feel these things without knowing entirely why.
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FTMax

I think it is.

My dysphoria has shifted over time to focus on what my biggest obstacles are at the time, though it has always really been. Before starting T, I was depressed that I was never seen as male. Now that I pass consistently, my chest is constantly on my mind. After my chest has healed in a few weeks, I'm sure my mind will be plagued by my plumbing.

Dysphoria is different for everyone. For some people it's more depressive and more physically focused. For you it might be more of an angry thing.
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Echo Eve

It's good to know, though also sad, that I'm not alone and that the OP and others go through these fractured thoughts on gender.

I've cross-dressed since the age of seven, which commenced a private life that ran parallel to my public and family life for decades before a cognitive convergence occurred. This intersection, a colliding of worlds, caused what a psychiatrist described as gender dysphoria (though he qualified his diagnosis with a more contemporary framing). I go through waves of wanting to transition desperately, but, as things feel hopeless and overwhelming, that drive to transition wanes. I push through the waning moments, clinging to and busying myself with the everyday tasks of daily life. But the frustration, resentment and self-loathing at not being female again eventually drives me to despair and a very dark and lonely place. On top of this, I also have doubts about how my dysphoria first appeared and whether I really do want to be female, and if I do, why? Are my doubts founded on a distrust of my own needs, in turn founded upon self censorship, delusion and the thought of suffering some kind of mental health issue, among a host of other thoughts plaguing my mind.

Part of my problem stems from the fact that I have at least two ways of cognitively modelling the world. Society is very good at normalising certain behaviours and opinions while condemning others. Society's judgements are blind, unconscious, mostly unorchestrated and reinforced by both old and an ongoing construction of traditions and institutions. I can see why and how this happens, as it represents security in the form of ready-made goals and expectations, a cultural shorthand, as in, "that's just what we do". Unfortunately, some people don't fit into this social slipstream and struggle to find relevance and acceptance.

Some people are better equipped than others to challenge societal norms, which, in the long run, is good for everyone. Others, however, are intimidated by societal norms, believing it impossible to eek out an existence within a monolithic mainstream. I don't know about anyone else here, but this is me. I spend a lot of time thinking about living as a female, being female, but can't picture how I would integrate this person into my 40-year history. My spirit soars when I research and look at other trans people who have made it, who have become the person they've always known they really are. But when I walk back out into the world -- the normalised, standardised relations incorporating friends, family and work -- my heart sinks, I self censor, put on my mask and follow the beat of the tribal drum.
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JaydenPlasmatic

Yeah I get these days where I really want to transition but then days when i get nervous about the changes happening too fast or regretting it. I just don't quite understand myself because I'm very unhappy with everything and nothing brings me happiness anymore. I feel like it's social dysphoria but also a bunch of other things such as school. I'm just stressed out because I don't want to be indecisive anymore. Also, I don't get why I'm so scared to transition if it's causing me depression. I should want to fix it.  :-\
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Echo Eve

Quote from: JaydenPlasmatic on April 14, 2015, 08:50:23 PM
I don't get why I'm so scared to transition if it's causing me depression. I should want to fix it.

It's strange and frustrating. I experience it constantly.
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