I just had surgery with Dr.Haben

[kwala]

I think there was someone here from Scandinavia once who would be responsible for the precious

Dana - I looked for these recordings. I am not a musician but I tried to match the pitch in the videos and the are not that low. A lot of it is in the range G3 to G4. There are female singers with a deeper voice for sure.

You are right in that a very high voice would probably not fit my real body as I am not tall, but big.

And yes - speaking too high as in the voice sample you mentioned (I dont know which it is, but I can imagine that there was one that fits your description) is not good either. Thats what I said - either I end up too low , force it too high, am in a zone that is weak or breaking - I have a hard time currently to find the right spot. Maybe its just the dreaded month 4 that everyone seems to have had, but I think generally it is quite a task to really find that "sweet spot" and manage to train it in a way so it becomes the new normal... so VFS definitely is no "fire and forget" thing at all...

Karen Carpenter was a beautiful singer and sat mostly in the tenor range.  I used to sing her songs in full chest voice before I started working on a female mixed voice.  Their version of Yesterday Once More is in E major and the highest note is G#4 during the chorus if that's useful to know.

[anjaq]

Rally? It did not sound that low in the video I saw. Maybe I just misjudged ---

I found this one which may be fun to listen to:

[Dena]

Found an interview with Richard Carpenter and he said the lowest note she sang was D below middle C. She used the chest voice and was a Contralto.

[Dodie]

Ikate and Candace,
Same here... urrrrr I try and they will say thank you sir and I just think crap.. If I am in front of someone everyone says my voice is great.. I never had a deep voice..
I have to get voice surgery.. who knows after that I might be able to sing a song!!! LOL
Dodie

[Wynternight]

Rally? It did not sound that low in the video I saw. Maybe I just misjudged ---

I found this one which may be fun to listen to:

Two words: Nina Simone

[anjaq]

they will say thank you sir .... I never had a deep voice..
I have to get voice surgery..

I am not sure these are the best things to combine - if the voice is not deep, but you still get sirred, it more likely is something else about the voice that confuses people, and not pitch - of what use is voice surgery then if it cannot correct the issue with the voice that you have? First of all it is important to find out what about your voice gets you sirred, then consider which surgery may help - if any.

[HouseHippo]

one month one week - http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sS3PXOUSVD

[Dena]

I went back and played your initial voices before commenting and the current voice sounds female. What is lacking is inflection but from the initial voice samples I found you do know how to add inflection to your speaking voice. My guess is you are still not at the point were you can control the voice enough to add enough inflection or your ear isn't trained to what is needed. I can only see this voice getting better as you work with it more.
A question I have for you is are you using a chest voice or a mouth voice after surgery?

[kwala]

one month one week - http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sS3PXOUSVD

You are sounding incredible!  Have you done any experimenting with your new vocal range? 
I'm still not sure I will go for the triple,  but hearing the results from you and warm body make me feel very confident about my choice to schedule with Dr. Haben

[Cadence Jean]

Sounding great, House!! Did Haben estimate about how much he sutured you up? He told me 45%, which has me a little worried that I'll be in a high end for pitch. But after croaking out some words today, I think I'll hit a good pitch right on.

[kwala]

I am not sure these are the best things to combine - if the voice is not deep, but you still get sirred, it more likely is something else about the voice that confuses people, and not pitch - of what use is voice surgery then if it cannot correct the issue with the voice that you have? First of all it is important to find out what about your voice gets you sirred, then consider which surgery may help - if any.

Well, as someone who also has a naturally high male voice that isn't always perceived as feminine, I can relate to this.  In addition to pitch, I can tell you that in every outcome I have heard from both Dr. Haben and Dr. Kim I have noted a change in timbre.  Of course it's different in every patient, but as someone with three music degrees, my ear is very well trained and I definitely hear a decrease in the lower undertones which makes the timbre a bit brighter and more feminine sounding even in the cases where little to no pitch elevation was gained.  Of course all voices are unique and the changes are more drastic in some and less in others. 

Personally, I'm not really doing this surgery to gain notes I never had, I'm doing it to make one specific part of my range sound more natural and easier to access.  I'm also hoping that it will affect the overall tone of my voice a bit.  It may only be slight, but it sure would be nice!  My mean speaking frequency is usually in the 170s without artificially raising it and I'd really love for it to just naturally sit a bit higher.  I feel having one part of the equation out of the way will make it even easier for me to resonate in different spaces and find the timbre I'm looking for. 

[HouseHippo]

I went back and played your initial voices before commenting and the current voice sounds female. What is lacking is inflection but from the initial voice samples I found you do know how to add inflection to your speaking voice. My guess is you are still not at the point were you can control the voice enough to add enough inflection or your ear isn't trained to what is needed. I can only see this voice getting better as you work with it more.
A question I have for you is are you using a chest voice or a mouth voice after surgery?

I'm still unable to control my voice. Just speaking normally after surgery is similar to my mouth voice.

You are sounding incredible!  Have you done any experimenting with your new vocal range? 
I'm still not sure I will go for the triple,  but hearing the results from you and warm body make me feel very confident about my choice to schedule with Dr. Haben

I've done very little experimenting because my voice just Isn't ready yet. I'm healing fast though so I'm sure I'll be able to very soon.

Sounding great, House!! Did Haben estimate about how much he sutured you up? He told me 45%, which has me a little worried that I'll be in a high end for pitch. But after croaking out some words today, I think I'll hit a good pitch right on.

I actually didn't ask but I'm sure you have no reason to worry, I think he's very good at what he does .

[anjaq]

Well, as someone who also has a naturally high male voice that isn't always perceived as feminine, I can relate to this.  In addition to pitch, I can tell you that in every outcome I have heard from both Dr. Haben and Dr. Kim I have noted a change in timbre.  Of course it's different in every patient, but as someone with three music degrees, my ear is very well trained and I definitely hear a decrease in the lower undertones which makes the timbre a bit brighter and more feminine sounding even in the cases where little to no pitch elevation was gained.

Yes, that is very true and it is also something I am really happy about. I am not sure how much of this really changed or how much would have changed if my voice would have been naturally higher, but it definitely is a great change for me because I dont feel "out of place" anymore when I am in a group of women who speak. Before the surgery it was not only my pitch but also the "ring", the timbre to my voice that made me feel stick out. I think it has to do with the reduced mass that is swinging now which not only changes pitch, but mainly changes the "massiveness" of the voice.

[fluttershy1617]

Wow It is very feminine 

[HouseHippo]

Thank you!

[HouseHippo]

hey ladies so this is my 6th or so month update and everything is going great. Talking is very easy now and I don't have to think about it which is super awesome.

6 months - https://www.dropbox.com/s/lyww0glrjdkqgno/6%20months%20after%20surgery.mp3?dl=0
Sorry for making you download the file. Vocaroo is awful.
all voice files - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/js9jtumq725it8b/AAABgeHOkLqXe8Jb_l2RpLLla?dl=0

[Dena]

Welcome leader. I am at the 6 month mark and I think you may be a bit more as you had your surgery before me. I was very new to the forum and as you can see, there have been a few changes.

As for your voice, It sounds really good. The pitch is clearly feminine and you have sufficient inflection in it so it sounds  interesting and it genders female. The pitch is mid range feminine so if you are ever gendered as male, it's because of habit of the other person and not due to your voice.

[kwala]

Thanks for sharing your update.  You still sound great and glad to hear that your strength and volume have only gotten better!

[jollyjoy]

Househippo you sound AMAZING!!!!!

Thank you for sharing all your voice clips! You were one of the reasons I went to Dr. Haben. I think posting voice clips on Dropbox is a much better idea since Vocaroo files get deleted after a while. Ladies, take note, please use Dropbox or some permanent  online storage instead of Vocaroo. I regret using Vocaroo for my earlier voice clips and I will definitely be posting my next voice clip to Dropbox!

hey ladies so this is my 6th or so month update and everything is going great. Talking is very easy now and I don't have to think about it which is super awesome.

6 months - https://www.dropbox.com/s/lyww0glrjdkqgno/6%20months%20after%20surgery.mp3?dl=0
Sorry for making you download the file. Vocaroo is awful.
all voice files - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/js9jtumq725it8b/AAABgeHOkLqXe8Jb_l2RpLLla?dl=0

[HouseHippo]

Thanks for everyone's kind words I honestly normally sound better than I did in the recording. For some reason whenever I start to record my voice I get nervous and my throat tightens a bit and I sound shaky it's weird haha.

Househippo you sound AMAZING!!!!!

Thank you for sharing all your voice clips! You were one of the reasons I went to Dr. Haben. I think posting voice clips on Dropbox is a much better idea since Vocaroo files get deleted after a while. Ladies, take note, please use Dropbox or some permanent  online storage instead of Vocaroo. I regret using Vocaroo for my earlier voice clips and I will definitely be posting my next voice clip to Dropbox!

Thanks so much for telling me I am so happy I was one of the reasons it's honestly been life changing! When I was looking into Dr.Haben I found very little results and wanted to help if I could. Vocaroo is really bad for the reasons this site uses. It leaves everyone that was a little late to the thread to miss out on important information I HATE IT.