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FFS with Dr. Rossi, June 2015 + Revisions/New Procedures, August 2016

Started by RubyAliza, May 25, 2015, 12:44:54 PM

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jhulyglow

Quote from: Claudia_FF on August 19, 2015, 02:59:10 AM
I was told my nose is difficult and my chin is a challenge :P
At the moment i took it personally and it was on of the reasons i didn't consider him anymore , i really think they could tell it in a different manner . Now i see maybe this is their standard terminology .
Maybe this is also for the patients to feel complexed and believe they are hopeless , so after an average result they wouldn't blame the doctor .
It happened to me when operated. He spoke in front of my friend that my face was harder to move than hers. Thankfully, I am well settled and it did not shake me. But really it is not the correct way of speaking. Luck of those who received the message via e-mail, in my case it was even worse: because it was personally!
FFS -Frontoplasty: 13th of November 2014 - Dr. Maggio, Buenos Aires - Argentina.
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RubyAliza

Well, DiMaggio is a good doctor for sure judging by your avatar photo :) I think overall its best to be positive about all these ffs surgeons, especially on these boards. I heed to the forum administrators to follow the rules so we can keep this forum alive and well. Besides, no one needs to ever say anything really bad about a doctor; my philosophy is that potentials patients make their decisions not by looking at the negative, but the positive.
- Ruby
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possessed

Quote from: jhulyglow on August 24, 2015, 06:46:27 PM
It happened to me when operated. He spoke in front of my friend that my face was harder to move than hers. Thankfully, I am well settled and it did not shake me. But really it is not the correct way of speaking. Luck of those who received the message via e-mail, in my case it was even worse: because it was personally!

Even if your face was "difficult to move" he obviously "moved" it to perfect female position. Maybe it is just Argentinean way of speaking. I am not sure. I don't think he was rude. Maybe in Argentina they just use that kind of wording so translating it in English makes them sound rude. Still English is their second language, but you obviously didn't go there for linguistic but for FFS and you seem to have gotten very good results. I really believe that both Dr Rossi and MDM are very good doctors.
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Mariah

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Quote from: Cindy on August 22, 2015, 06:56:45 AM
I realise that FFS raises intense interest. I also know that there are malicious and unhelpful comments on this forum.

I find this so sad. Many women want or may need FFS and the people here can help each other in an open and honest way. I appreciate the posters who have revealed their professional relationship with teams. Thank you.

But I will not tolerate libel, trash talking, or other rude comments about various teams be you a client or a team member.

if such activity continues I will close this area down for a period. That would be a great sorrow and a bad outcome for the majority of women who want honesty and truth about their procedures.

Honesty and truth can be posted in a civil and helpful way without insult.

I will leave it to you if you want this area left open or if I close it.

I hope your posts and actions allow me to keep this area open for the benefit of all of you.

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RubyAliza

Thanks Mariah, that's certainly fair. This forum has been such an asset to me and many others and so I hope that it can remain free of negativity or bashing of any kind. I've worked hard to update this thread so others can have a detailed account of my ffs experiences, which many others have done as well. Furthermore my thread should be about my experiences with Dr. Rossi, not with any other surgeons. This is not the place for comparison or competition. My firm belief is that all doctors who perform this surgery are well-intentioned, compassionate human beings who deserve respect.

- Ruby

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RubyAliza

I thought I would update just for the hair transplants and to show the trichophytic coronal incision.

Hair is already growing through the scar at 3 months. It's becoming so camouflaged now that it took me a bit just to find it:

http://postimg.org/image/milopytk3/

http://postimg.org/image/vp3zd8ysj/

And the hair transplants. I got them done June 19th I believe. Less than three months and they're sprouting like crazy:

http://postimg.org/image/pydsziqsj/

http://postimg.org/image/6ukhj6dyb/

I really like their shape. Amanda, my partner, and Bruno were all in the room drawing and redrawing the hairline on me trying to figure out what looks best right before srugery lol That's what why I say transplants are the best way to create a hairline, you can get almost exactly what you want!

Still healing from surgery btw. It's gonna take a while, he took like a centimeter off my profile, nose bridge, and chin height haha probably gonna be a year for the final results.

(sorry that my upper lip looks bad - had electrolysis yesterday)

- Ruby
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Laura_7

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Cadence Jean

Thanks for sharing those transplant pics, Ruby!  Now I know what to expect after mine are put in. :)
to make more better goodness

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KarmaGirl

You have sparked my interest in Dr. Rossi. Looking great!
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RubyAliza

You're welcome KarmaGirl! I'll be posting here again when I'm back in Buenos Aires again to see Dr.Rossi one last time. I'm waiting to confirm a date in early June for a very slight revision to my brows/lips and some new procedures, specifically fat transfers to the cheeks and upper lip, and a breast augmentation. To be honest, I fell in love with the city.

Dr. Rossi is definitely worth looking into especially if you're not sure about going abroad for surgery. Having Amanda to support me throughout everything was amazing. She'll still answer any questions I have 8 months after my surgery :)

- Ruby
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deeiche

I see you updated your avatar photo too.  Looks like the hair transplants are growing in well, can't even see you had them done.  Thanks again for posting about Dr Bruno Syzferman, mine are almost 4 months and look similar to yours at 3 months.

Hope you have a great trip to BA.
"It's only money, not life or death"
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RubyAliza

Thanks Deeiche! Yeah, the grafts are looking really good. Glad yours are growing well :) The hairline makes such a difference in terms of femininity - more so than I though at first.

I'll be nice to come back to this thread in June and start updating again.

- Ruby
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kitten_lover

Hi Ruby, Deeiche and all others who posted on this thread. I've read through it from the beginning, for the last three hours with a couple of hot chocolates and have really enjoyed learning about your journey. First, Ruby, might I say, you look wonderful. I love your new nose! I am too considering FFS with Dr Rossi and made contact with Amanda last week to arrange a consultation soon. I'm very pleased to learn T-change can also offer a fat transfer to the hips and breast augmentation, as it is something I'm considering in future too. However, at present, I'd like to focus on FFS.

A few months ago I had vocal fold shortening at Yeson with Dr Kim and although my pitch didn't rise dramatically, it made a big difference to my confidence, and obviously, to my voice. I read, Ruby, on one of your posts you mention something about having a masculine voice at times, you may want to consider Dr Kim in future if that is something you have dysphoria around.

As many who have contacted Dr MDM have mentioned, I too had contacted his office initially before discovering Dr Rossi. The quote they have given me far exceeds what I can afford, however the results on his website show fantastic results! One thing which had disturbed me somewhat was when the man/woman responding to my emails at first seemed to compare their superiority over other surgeons, even at times claiming that other practices use photoshop. I thought that was highly unprofessional and for that reason above all, have pretty much made my decision not to go there. However, I have arranged for a consultation with Dr MDM as I believe it's better to speak directly with the doctor rather than those who work with him. In the end of the day, he is the one performing surgery, not his secretary. I'm not ruling anyone out yet, but I think after reading all the fabulous things posted about Dr Rossi, I'm inclined to learn more about him personally via consultation.

A friend sent me her quote, which had on it the cost of her FFS and list of procedures. I wish to basically have very similar procedures on me, which are: chin and jawline reduction, rhinoplasty and possibly forehead contouring or an orbital rim shave, to get rid of that part under my brow which is prominent, and not flat. I also have hair problems, as many of you can see, I wear a wig :) My hair is actually very thick, full and wavy, and is not thinning. I had a hair system fitted about a year ago, which involved shaving my head and my hair is taking forever to grow back since. It was a bad decision, a mistake I made, from being nervous about going full time without having full hair, and wanting natural looking results. But now I have a wig, so I've kind of done a double on myself... yay for being stupid
That said, I don't have a rounded hairline, in particularly at the corners, and therefore was about to book myself in for a hair transplant in Hungary next month. It is very cheap there too, if anyone is considering that. After having read your posts, Ruby, and seeing phenomenal results, I may just have the hair transplant with Dr Bruno whilst I'm there.

Can you give me a rough idea of how much this would add to my trip in terms of expense? If you don't mind sharing, how much did that procedure cost you? You can PM me if you like?

Also, could somebody post a link to the yahoo Dr Rossi FFS group pleeeez?
"The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice...it is conformity."                  ~ Rollo May, Man's Search for Himself.
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Paula1

Hi Jenna,

Going somewhat off topic (apologies moderators), I intend to have Dr Kim at Yeson operate on my vocal chords next year.

Do you have a seperate thread on this experience of your's?

I used to be a singer and want to get back to it.

I sung once at "10CC's" Strawberry South Studio in Dorking, Surrey, UK back in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Studios

Hugs

Paula

PS. Ruby you look amazing ...  :)


Quote from: kitten_lover on February 06, 2016, 04:54:13 AM


A few months ago I had vocal fold shortening at Yeson with Dr Kim and although my pitch didn't rise dramatically, it made a big difference to my confidence, and obviously, to my voice. I read, Ruby, on one of your posts you mention something about having a masculine voice at times, you may want to consider Dr Kim in future if that is something you have dysphoria around.


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kitten_lover

Quote from: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 07:39:24 AM
Hi Jenna,

Going somewhat off topic (apologies moderators), I intend to have Dr Kim at Yeson operate on my vocal chords next year.

Do you have a seperate thread on this experience of your's?

I used to be a singer and want to get back to it.

I sung once at "10CC's" Strawberry South Studio in Dorking, Surrey, UK back in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Studios

Hugs

Paula

PS. Ruby you look amazing ...  :)


Hiyas!

I don't have a thread on mine, there a couple of well documented ones on here by Ria and Jenny. Just search for Yeson Voice Feminization

If you wanted to hear what I sound like: click ----> http://vocaroo.com/i/s1D2EPMXyMgD

Wow, that's cool, my Dad was a fan of 10cc and I live over in London, used to live in Bracknell which is close to Surrey.

Anyhoo, if I were you I'd follow Jenny's thread, she tells it very well, just as Ruby has here.


Good luck!
"The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice...it is conformity."                  ~ Rollo May, Man's Search for Himself.
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RubyAliza

Hi Jenna!

     I'm very happy that this thread was helpful to you. I can get pretty detailed in my posting sometimes. But the details matter especially when you're making such a big decision. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either Dr. Rossi or Dr. DiMaggio. They both stand by their work. Another girl, Charlotte, who I met on these boards, got surgery about the same time as me. She went to DiMaggio and I went to Dr. Rossi. We both kinda look alike in terms of forehead and chin :) We hung out in Buenos Aires before and after surgery. The results were very, very similar I think and I mean that in a good way. The technique is slightly different but the results are practically identical. Dr. Rossi is a humble confident person. I love all the work he did and the touch up I'm getting with him isn't a big deal. I think you'll like him when you meet him in your skype consultation. I can't vouch for Dr. DiMaggio but I hear he corresponds directly with patients and speaks English pretty well. The price difference between the two though was more than I could afford, especially considering I was going to need transplants. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

   I'm going to message you with all Dr. Bruno Szyferman's information. He's great and he's extremely affordable. One of the nicest doctors I've ever met. Speaks enough English to communicate with you but you can ask Amanda about him. She's the one who put me in contact with him in the first place. They know each other apparently.

   Thanks for the recommendation on Yeson! I'm currently having trouble deciding on this issue. I still have problems keeping a female voice - it takes so much effort, even with training. However, I just met a doctor at Kaiser where I go and he warned me that for many trans patients it can give them a permanently scratchy voice, which is draws more attention than a lower pitched female voice. But I had my heart set on Yeson because I though maybe there was less of a chance of that. Maybe you could message me more on your results :)

- Ruby
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Paula1

Hi Jenna,


Quote from: kitten_lover on February 06, 2016, 01:03:24 PM

Hiyas!

I don't have a thread on mine, there a couple of well documented ones on here by Ria and Jenny. Just search for Yeson Voice Feminization

Will do thank you ...  :)

If you wanted to hear what I sound like: click ----> http://vocaroo.com/i/s1D2EPMXyMgD

You sound great ...  8) How long did it take to recover and speak this well.

Wow, that's cool, my Dad was a fan of 10cc and I live over in London, used to live in Bracknell which is close to Surrey.

LOL ..   ;D ...  Now I am feeling old. Ohmigawd, I transitioned in Bracknell in 1988 and lived there from 1983 to 1992 before moving to here in Surrey !!! I liked it there. Sounds like we should meet up some time as I go into London fairly regularly .... Pm me if you wish ....  :)

My phone voice is very good and it's good talking to people as I had the usual speech therapy etc. But as I am getting older, my voice is getting strained. So vocal surgery is now a must and I intend to go to Dr Kim next year after my forehead revision and revision rhinoplasty and secondary upper lip lift have all settled down.

This surgery with Facial Team is on April 6th and cannot wait ... :)


Anyhoo, if I were you I'd follow Jenny's thread, she tells it very well, just as Ruby has here.

Good luck!

Thank you Jenna

Hugs

Paula


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kitten_lover

Quote from: RubyAliza on February 06, 2016, 05:11:14 PM
Hi Jenna!

     I'm very happy that this thread was helpful to you. I can get pretty detailed in my posting sometimes. But the details matter especially when you're making such a big decision. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either Dr. Rossi or Dr. DiMaggio. They both stand by their work. Another girl, Charlotte, who I met on these boards, got surgery about the same time as me. She went to DiMaggio and I went to Dr. Rossi. We both kinda look alike in terms of forehead and chin :) We hung out in Buenos Aires before and after surgery. The results were very, very similar I think and I mean that in a good way. The technique is slightly different but the results are practically identical. Dr. Rossi is a humble confident person. I love all the work he did and the touch up I'm getting with him isn't a big deal. I think you'll like him when you meet him in your skype consultation. I can't vouch for Dr. DiMaggio but I hear he corresponds directly with patients and speaks English pretty well. The price difference between the two though was more than I could afford, especially considering I was going to need transplants. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

   I'm going to message you with all Dr. Bruno Szyferman's information. He's great and he's extremely affordable. One of the nicest doctors I've ever met. Speaks enough English to communicate with you but you can ask Amanda about him. She's the one who put me in contact with him in the first place. They know each other apparently.

   Thanks for the recommendation on Yeson! I'm currently having trouble deciding on this issue. I still have problems keeping a female voice - it takes so much effort, even with training. However, I just met a doctor at Kaiser where I go and he warned me that for many trans patients it can give them a permanently scratchy voice, which is draws more attention than a lower pitched female voice. But I had my heart set on Yeson because I though maybe there was less of a chance of that. Maybe you could message me more on your results :)

- Ruby

Hey Ruby!!

Thank you so much, I had a look at Dr Bruno Szyferman's website, however it is all in Spanish, so I would really appreciate the info you send me.

Regarding Yeson, the good thing about it is, the results can't go in the wrong direction; as in, you won't get a negative result. Although you may be dissatisfied if you barely have any change in pitch after surgery. In fact, I've just come across a girl who sadly due a poor cough she had after surgery, hasn't had any change to her voice since she has been able to speak.

I found that my voice went quite raspy at first, for the first few weeks after I could speak and it felt like it wouldn't go. My voice has since improved, somewhat. You can hear for yourself, and judge how you think I sound on the link I posted a couple of posts ago.

Before surgery, the 'trained' or 'feminised' voice I used, which involved a conscious effort to elevate my pitch, but something that became like second nature, almost, was only slightly lower pitched than the lowest tone of my new voice. So without any effort, my default pitch is only very slightly higher than how I sounded pre-op.

This, for me, is a great relief, since it means I don't have to put in any effort to sound female. My pitch may not be in the mid or even lowest female range, and some will say more androygynous or gender-ambiguous sounding; however due to the 'colour' of my voice, and my speaking patterns, it comes across as female.
"The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice...it is conformity."                  ~ Rollo May, Man's Search for Himself.
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kitten_lover

Quote from: Paula1 on February 06, 2016, 05:41:56 PM
Hi Jenna,

Hey Paula

I am now three months post op. The first month I could speak, which was a month after my silence, I did sound a bit lower. Then...I suddenly realised I could elevate my voice, just as I had used to when I was pre-op.

My speech therapist was trying to get me to speak in a higher tone, and I think, since I felt used to hearing myself as I was pre-op, I continued to speak like that, which was using the lower end of my vocal range. I can now speak slightly higher and with little effort it's becoming second nature to me now. So here's the recording I made was me elevating my voice slightly, Here http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Eh7stHnI3e
"The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice...it is conformity."                  ~ Rollo May, Man's Search for Himself.
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