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Michelle Duggar defends smearing transgender people as pedophiles

Started by stephaniec, June 04, 2015, 11:45:20 AM

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stephaniec

Michelle Duggard defends smearing transgender people as pedophiles: 'it's just common sense'.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/06/04/3666054/duggard-interview-transgender/

Think Progress/by Zack Ford  06/04/2015

"During Wednesday night's interview with Michelle and Jm Bob Duggar about their sons Josh's history of molesting his younger sisters, Fox News Megyn Kelly pressed the conservative couple to justify their advocacy against LGBT equality."
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Dee Marshall

I would comment, but I try to be ladylike and I fear the things I'm thinking would go against the terms of service.
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suzifrommd

I don't know what people expect of the Duggars. They have been knowing harboring a child molester for years. What sort of replies would you *expect* from folks like that.
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awilliams1701

Sorry but out of the mouth of a child molester, this doesn't mean anything.
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fennec-fox

Well, if you ignore the fact that most child molesters are cis men and also remain willfully ignorant of the fact that transgender people just want to be seen as people and have the same rights as everyone else, then I suppose it could be "just common sense" that all transgender people are pedophiles, if you're capable of being so deeply in denial of reality. I guess that means Josh Duggar is not a child molester because he's cis and therefore must be innocent in her eyes (okay, well, she probably just doesn't want to admit that he's done anything seriously wrong because he's her son).

I can understand her concern about cis straight men lying and claiming to be trans to get into women's locker rooms, etc. and sneak a peek at girls there, but I don't think that's a significant enough reason to be against trans rights. Will that happen once trans people are free to use the bathrooms and locker rooms for their gender? Possibly. Will it happen frequently? That seems highly unlikely. For every straight cis man who claims to be a trans woman to sneak a peek at girls getting changed or showering, there would surely be hundreds, if not thousands or more transgender people being allowed to use the bathrooms and locker rooms of their gender. Besides, there are probably some gay men, lesbians, and bisexuals/pansexuals out there who do try to sneak a peek at others in the locker room because they don't have to lie about their gender to be in a room for those of the gender they are attracted to, yet you don't hear much about people wanting LGB people banned from locker rooms and bathrooms.
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RavenL

That really bothers me what she said, I'm leaving it at that.






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Emily E

Ok I wasn't going to say anything but I don't like how various groups are using her robocall to permute divisiveness and hate... to be realistic she said a lot of things against the ordnance but none of the hate speech what she is purported to have said I even went back and checked her Robocall transcript (included below with phone numbers and web site removed but I also included the link in case you want to see it for yourself)
Hello, this is Michelle Duggar. I'm calling to inform you of some shocking news that would affect the safety of Northwest Arkansas women and children. The Fayetteville City Council is voting on an ordinance this Tuesday night that would allow men – yes I said men – to use womens and girls restrooms, locker rooms, showers, sleeping areas and other areas that are designated for females only. I don't believe the citizens of Fayetteville would want males with past child predator convictions that claim they are female to have a legal right to enter private areas that are reserved for women and girls. I doubt that Fayetteville parents would stand for a law that would endanger their daughters or allow them to be traumatized by a man joining them in their private space. We should never place the preference of an adult over the safety and innocence of a child. Parents, who do you want undressing next to your daughter at the public swimming pool's private changing area? I still believe that we are a society that puts women and children first. Women, young ladies and little girls deserve to use the restroom or any other facility in peace and safety.
Link to where I got this transcript (http://general.mtstars.com/417187.html )
So in the robocall she tells you
1.   The Fayetteville City Council is voting on an ordinance that will allow men to use the women's and girl's restrooms, locker rooms, showers, sleeping areas and other areas that are designated for females only.
2.   She doesn't believe the citizens of Fayetteville would want males with past child predator convictions that claim they are female to have a legal right to enter private areas that are reserved for women and girls.
3.   She doesn't believe Fayetteville parents would stand for a law that would endanger their daughters or allow them to be traumatized by a man joining them in their private space.
4.   She doesn't think we should never place the preference of an adult over the safety and innocence of a child.
5.   She then asks - Parents, who do you want undressing next to your daughter at the public swimming pool's private changing area?
6.   She then says - I still believe that we are a society that puts women and children first. Women, young ladies and little girls deserve to use the restroom or any other facility in peace and safety.
So where is the hate speech where she throws the Trans community under the buss and call all of us predators, pedophiles and child molesters... the answer is that she simply doesn't in this call no matter how much people want her to be trans phobic this call simply isn't the smoking gun people purport it to be.
Sure she speaks out about the ordnance but because this is America she is allowed to have her opinions and can speak her mind about it (I'm not saying its right but it is her opinion)
I'm sure some of you will point to the point where she says "males with past child predator convictions that claim they are female" as the point where she says Trans but that would be you making that distinction not her... in my opinion we as a community missed the boat with this and should have stood up and said "your right we don't want males with past child predator convictions claiming they are trans simply to gain access lets work out a solution"
You can hate me for writing this if you don't agree as I'm half expecting it and you can even make counter points to my analysis but keep it about my analysis or my source and not attack me for who I am or how I live as some would readily do.
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Amy1988

Quote from: suzifrommd on June 04, 2015, 02:54:54 PM
I don't know what people expect of the Duggars. They have been knowing harboring a child molester for years. What sort of replies would you *expect* from folks like that.

God what a joke... they are passing judgement?  LOL!
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VeryGnawty

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