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A question regarding cis-individuals and dysphoria

Started by Reptillian, July 19, 2015, 09:26:40 PM

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Reptillian

Something that I find hard to understand is how is it some people who can feel a concept of something can't understand what it like to feel something, but not identify as something. When I read about transgender POV regarding cis-individuals, and many say that cis-individuals do not feel dysphoria, I point out that there are cis-individuals who do in fact feel similar dysphoria, but not identify as it and I point examples which shows that it is entirely possible have a strong sense of dysphoria, but not identify with it, and a lot of gender-minded individuals seem to have a hard time wrapping their head about that concept. Some examples are...

1) I strongly feel that I have a 3rd arm, but I identify as a 2 arm person because that is what can be observed, and I would rather be addressed as such.
2) I strongly feel that I have two arms, but I identity as someone without an arm because that is what can be observed, and I would rather be addressed as such.

In these two examples, it shows that these individuals do not use feelings as a basis for their identity. Likewise, it isn't too hard to imagine some individuals may have a feeling that their body isn't right, but yet still identifies as what the majority would look at them as, and would rather be addressed in that way. So, why is it some transgender individuals have a hard time conceptualizing the idea that some people may actually have similar sense of dysphoria, but yet not identify as that way? I get that not all gender-minded people have a hard time understanding, but I just want to find better ways to explain this.
Terminologies
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Igsexual : The identity in which one takes the position of the worldview that sexual attraction is not coherently defined and cannot identity within a sexual identity unless a reference point of what's sexual attraction has been coherently defined
Cis-genderless : The perspective in which one has no gender mentality although identify with sex organ
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kelly_aus

Try looking at the definition of Body Dysmorphic Disorder, as the 2 examples you give would fit that. Somewhat similar, but different to Gender Dysphoria.
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Marlee

I'm not sure if this directly addresses your question. But I think it depends on the person. For some, society, and their personal environment shapes the thinking and perceptions of self. For others, this influence is not as powerful, or does not affect the person as much - and they more readily feel, and identify with what is within. But since I do believe there are variable levels of dysphoria, it is quite possible that the first group of people include those who have a low-degree of dysphoria and subconsciously "ignore" the feelings. 
And perhaps the toughest internal struggles arise when the dysphoria is deeper, and is combined with a strong societal and personal environment influence.
But back to the perceptions of some CIS folk. I guess they cannot understand it since it doesn't connect cognitively. It is the nature of dysphoria.. the only way to really understand it, is if you feel it. But the good news is that society does not need to fully understand in order to accept.
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