Soy milk

[Martine A.]

As a vegetarian (and consumer of soy milk) for 28 years I can tell you it did pretty much zero for my hormone levels. Ditto flax seeds, green tea, spearmint tea, saw palmetto, red clover, etc, etc. Yes, they may have a small amount of antiandrogen or phytoestrogen but compared to what hormones can accomplish their effects are negligible/zero. Seriously don't waste your time and money.

My personal situation is I'd start hrt years ago if I had choice.

By current state of things it is about 4 more years to go until then.
Ultimately, I need something to eat, so will try flax seeds. If it gets my prostate bad, there goes a reason to do some removal.

[Cindy]

The avidity of phytoestrogens to the oestrogen receptor is so low that they have very little effect.

[Echo Eve]

Sorry to burst everyone's placebo bubble, but I have been drinking soy milk (and most of the other products Ms Grace lists) daily for 26 years and had no such feminising effects. But wouldn't it be good if it were true?!

Mind you, when my endo received my first round of tests, he couldn't explain why my Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) levels were so high. My testosterone levels were also at the low end of normal. There was no evidence to suggest that my SHBG and T levels were caused by a long term diet high in phytoestrogens, but my endo thought my diet interesting enough to note down in his little book of research

[Sofia1996]

More about that case with some pictures what he reached.
https://gynecomastia-specialist.com/blog/soy-milk-possible-cause-of-gynecomastia-enlarged-male-breasts/

Yes you might not get some serious effect but it totally depends on your body. There is plenty of articles were women get they'r breasts enlarged bcs of soy... At the end u might be lucky to have body that gets effected by it.

[Echo Eve]

More about that case with some pictures what he reached.
https://gynecomastia-specialist.com/blog/soy-milk-possible-cause-of-gynecomastia-enlarged-male-breasts/

Yes you might not get some serious effect but it totally depends on your body. There is plenty of articles were women get they'r breasts enlarged bcs of soy... At the end u might be lucky to have body that gets effected by it.

In reference to the case you cite (italics mine):

"Conclusions: This is a very unusual case of gynecomastia related to ingestion of soy products." [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18558591]

[Alex_or_Ben]

Hmm..  Maybe it's a special allergic reaction of some sort?

[kelly_aus]

Apart from a medically-proven lack of efficacy, soy milk is also ecologically unsound. In places where fresh water is a rapidly dwindling commodity, is a product that takes 3 litres of water to produce 1 litre of product all that wise?

[Echo Eve]

Soy versus dairy: what's the footprint of milk?
A recent Dutch study comparing the water footprints of soybean and equivalent animal products found that soy milk [has a] much smaller water footprint than cow milk... The water footprint of the soy milk products analysed in this study was 28% of the water footprint of the global average cow milk. (The Conversation)

[Cindy]

Well, I know it's a shame for those wanting to transition as MTF but damn - that's a relief to me!

Being vegan, I've been drinking around 2 pints a week, anything feminising would be the last thing I'd want!

Matt you need to drink a pint of Bulls blood instead. Not sure if it comes as vegan though!

Just joking people!

[RavenL]

Well if anything this topic got me to try soy milk its tasty!

[possessed]

I'm a soy milk addict as well as my boyfriend is. I haven't noticed any feminizing effects on him

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[Valerie_6966]

Can you imagine the lawsuits if it was feminising?

Totally agree. When our emotional attachment to feminizing ourselves are so adament, we will try to believe anything. If soy milk could produce feminizing effects, masculine men that drink it would also be exposed to those feminizing effects; as a result, I imagine people would be pretty pissed and would escalate things to the legal level.

That being said, I drink soy milk anyways because it is delicious! Vanilla soy milk on my cereal and in my coffee? yes please!

[awilliams1701]

That reminds me of a show where the guy's brother took shark hormones or something like that. He turned into a completely aggressive jerk after that.

Matt you need to drink a pint of Bulls blood instead. Not sure if it comes as vegan though!

Just joking people!

[VeronicaLynn]

As a vegetarian (and consumer of soy milk) for 28 years I can tell you it did pretty much zero for my hormone levels. Ditto flax seeds, green tea, spearmint tea, saw palmetto, red clover, etc, etc. Yes, they may have a small amount of antiandrogen or phytoestrogen but compared to what hormones can accomplish their effects are negligible/zero. Seriously don't waste your time and money.

I've been drinking soy milk and green tea, and taking saw palmetto supplements for quite awhile now. I don't see any feminizing effects, really, but I also don't see much further masculinization either really. I'm very concerned about balding, whether such things are helping prevent it is hard to tell. I don't really care as much about any other feminizing effects, that would really just be gravy for me. I can live with my body and hairline as is, I'm just wanting to keep it that way. I'm not sure how long I can, whether these things are helping or not is not all that easy to tell.