Yeson voice feminization surgery 2.0

[iKate]

PS out of curiosity, from both my mom and I, I measured her fundamental frequency. She was like... I think my voice is lower than yours... How can I find out? Haha. SO! She was right haha. My mom is 177 hz. I was 240! That was the highest my voice has clocked yet. I think a big part of that is more range and therefore more peaks and valleys in my speech pattern.


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My mom usually speaks around 220Hz or so but she sounds like she is pushing it down. Relaxed she is about 250-260.

I have had cis women tell me my voice sounds more feminine than theirs though.

[anjaq]

I think some cis women, especially older ones, will have voices that would be misjudged by the people in this forum if posted here with the assumption it is a trans voice

I recorded my mom and me talking one day and basically we had rather similar pitches. Mine is a bit more hoarse and sounds less healthy, hers sounds - well - older. She had some passages where she clearly was higher than me, but in most vases we both went for averages that go from 170 to 220 dependin on the sentence and mood and inflections.

People told me that the recoding sound slike just a recording of two women who are not too young anymore having a conversation. I guess if one takes into account that I am 40 already, my voice is in a range that fits that age. (Although of course part of me wants still to be that 20-something feminine girl with a higher voice and a slender body - lol, but there is no chance for that anymore)

[Teslagirl]

I would still make extra sure they know how to hande a VFS throat for intubation! It may look like VFS is becoming common but thats just our impression here - overall it still is a rare procedure. I also made an emergency card for my wallet now to inform EMT personnell and surgeons in case of an accident or emergency surgery about my VFS and how to generally deal with it, just to make sure they don't destroy anything. A GRS surgeon I was talking to half a year ago warned me that he has seen this happen several times, that a careless intubation can destroy a glottoplasty web even years after it was created just because someone used a intubator that was too big and basically shoved it down by force. Yikes. I would hope I never will be treated my a medic who is like that, but you never know.

I have the same reasons for FFS I guess - not because people would stare at me or something, but I dont like my own face the way it is - stupid. Maybe I should just get used to it somehow.

but voice was a passing factor - it got me into trouble having to ask weird questions several times and I hope this is gone now.

Could you post the technical wording of your intubation warning Anja? I am scheduled for SRS in February and had VFS in Korea as you know 8 weeks ago. I am a bit concerned in case they destroy the web.

Thanks.

[Dana88]

Could you post the technical wording of your intubation warning Anja? I am scheduled for SRS in February and had VFS in Korea as you know 8 weeks ago. I am a bit concerned in case they destroy the web.

Thanks.

The issue is that the intubation tube passes through the vocal chords. So if the tube they use is too large it can tear the surgical site and basically undo the VFS. That's why Dr. Kim says that they have to use a certain size tube. Dr. Suporn is apparently one of the surgeons who has worked closely with Dr. Kim and has a stringent protocol in place for those who have had VFS, but I would still reiterate and make absolutely sure on everything before going under with both Dr. Suporn and the anesthesiologist.


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[anjaq]

Hi. Dr Suporn and Facial Team are aware of Dr Kims surgeries and know how to deal with them. For all others, basically the instructions are to use small intubators (tube size 5.5 or 6) and to be extremely careful when inserting and removing it, as it has a bigger part at the lower end that needs to be navigated through the opening of the vocal folds.

My card currently looks like this:

I am still thinking about how to word it differently, maybe easier and more clear - but it should fit on a credit card sized piece of paper in my wallet...

If anyone has better ideas by the way, something that could be improved - or wants the photoshop file for this, please tell me so.

[Teslagirl]

Hi. Dr Suporn and Facial Team are aware of Dr Kims surgeries and know how to deal with them. For all others, basically the instructions are to use small intubators (tube size 5.5 or 6) and to be extremely careful when inserting and removing it, as it has a bigger part at the lower end that needs to be navigated through the opening of the vocal folds.

My card currently looks like this:

I am still thinking about how to word it differently, maybe easier and more clear - but it should fit on a credit card sized piece of paper in my wallet...

If anyone has better ideas by the way, something that could be improved - or wants the photoshop file for this, please tell me so.

Yes please, can you send me the Photoshop file?

Are you medically trained? I've never heard the phrase 'anterior synchenia'. I know you said Dr Suporn knows about VFS but I still can't help being worried about intubation with my upcoming SRS. I hope the anaesthetist has a good understanding of English.

This is really well designed Anja!

[iKate]

That is good. I am gettig a medical ID bracelet and will also include some info.

[anjaq]

No, I am a scientist and doctor but not a medical doctor - just a biochemist - But I know some words - anterior means frontal (as in the full name of Dr Kims procedure : vocal fold shortening and advancement of the anterior commissure) and I just saw that I misspelled Vocal fold synechia - I need to correct this and print it again. Thanks. The term synechia basically means that something is grown together.

[anjaq]

Yes please, can you send me the Photoshop file?

I uploaded it in the Yeson patient support group on Facebook.

[Dana88]

Hi. Dr Suporn and Facial Team are aware of Dr Kims surgeries and know how to deal with them. For all others, basically the instructions are to use small intubators (tube size 5.5 or 6) and to be extremely careful when inserting and removing it, as it has a bigger part at the lower end that needs to be navigated through the opening of the vocal folds.

My card currently looks like this:

I am still thinking about how to word it differently, maybe easier and more clear - but it should fit on a credit card sized piece of paper in my wallet...

If anyone has better ideas by the way, something that could be improved - or wants the photoshop file for this, please tell me so.

This is a REALLY good idea. Totally gonna use it.


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[anjaq]

I am trying to attach a file - its in some old Photoshop Format - I hope it is useable anyways. And I had to zip it so the forum would accept the upload. Hope this works

[Dena]

It works but it will require approval. I know there is nothing offensive in it but there are policy issues I am still learning about so somebody else will need to agree to the approval.

[iKate]

Can someone send me the link to the group?

[anjaq]

The facebook support group for Yeson patients is secret, so you need to contact someone who is in the group to be invited. This is to protect your Facebook profile from showing up "trans content" if you do not want everyone to know this part of your life.

[Dena]

I will see if I can speed up the process of enabling the link.

[iKate]

The facebook support group for Yeson patients is secret, so you need to contact someone who is in the group to be invited. This is to protect your Facebook profile from showing up "trans content" if you do not want everyone to know this part of your life.

Good move.

I am very "light" on trans content in my profile, although it is not totally out of it. But I like the option of privacy.

[Mariah]

I approved it. It's safe and I don't see an issue in doing that. Hugs
Mariah

[Teslagirl]

No, I am a scientist and doctor but not a medical doctor - just a biochemist - But I know some words - anterior means frontal (as in the full name of Dr Kims procedure : vocal fold shortening and advancement of the anterior commissure) and I just saw that I misspelled Vocal fold synechia - I need to correct this and print it again. Thanks. The term synechia basically means that something is grown together.

Just for clarity, is the commisure to the front (facewards) or toward the back? In other words, does the intubation tube have to pass the vocal folds at the top or the bottom?

[anjaq]

The commissure is at the anterior side of the larynx, this is the frontal side. The vocal chords open towards the back.

[iKate]

12 weeks and I think the botox is starting to wear off. My voice is not as breathy and my upper range is slowly returning.